Falco Chain Grab List

[DEHF]

I've organized how many chain grab Falco gets on the cast from least to greatest.

W = must walk in order to get max chain grabs possible
D = must dash grab in order to get max chain grabs possible
* = you're chain grabbing Marth and must dash grab for first 4 grabs (you can also walk on the very first grab), then boost grab for last 2.

2(0-17)
W

3(0-25)
W
W
W

4(0-31)


5(0-37)
W


6(0-43)




W



*
W

D





7(0-48)














8(0-53)




If I made a mistake anywhere on the list please let me know.

 

[Micklem]

Good stuff DEHF

I thought marth could break out with UpB even if you use boost grabs
But I guess you play mikehaze a lot so I'll take your word for it

How many of these are guaranteed spikes after?

 

[MulticolorShyGuy]

I play a top ROB a lot, and can only get 3 grabs before he's able to just jump out, you sure it's 6?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I think we can do snake even more than that, but not sure, lol.

 

[Wxcsdb]

watch http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRyxwDndHBU
Its where i picked falco up.
He uses a lot of chaingrabs.
Falco still not my main

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

How does percentage and staleness affect this list. Anyone know? I mean, if I grab marth at 16% with a fresh Dthrow, how might this affect the CG ability?

 

[Arcadia]

This is a really good list, but it needs more detail, like when you must buffer/walk/run/boost grab at any given point in each chaingrab.

Also what he^ said.

 

[Bloodcross]

How does percentage and staleness affect this list. Anyone know? I mean, if I grab marth at 16% with a fresh Dthrow, how might this affect the CG ability?

Wtf? Staleness doesn't affect this list.

It is what it is, that's all I gotta say... to what it is.

 

[clowsui]

You sure we can't get 4 on Lucario with boost?

Also Olimar is a boost CG for sure. You can't walk or dash CG him, please note that on the list.

 

[swordsaint]

thats not true clowsui. l2walkchaingrab
(though im probably wrong lol)

but still - basically if you wanna get the spike on any of these characters, just take away 1 grab and replace it with the spike.

 

[Marcbri]

you can walk or dash chaingrab olimar, it's just a different timing than other characters.

 

[clowsui]

@marcbri and scoot

false lol, i've tried every single timing on olimar with walking and dash grabs and the olimar can di out, i forget the method of DI

it's just obscure

you can CG olimar to ~25 before he can DI and jump out without the boost

 

[M@v]

When we say boost grab are we referring to boost pivot grab? Or grabbing in the same mannner you would with D3s cg?

 

[MetalMusicMan]

Awesome work, this is a great resource for Falco players everywhere!

 

[Vlade]

thats not true clowsui. l2walkchaingrab
(though im probably wrong lol)

but still - basically if you wanna get the spike on any of these characters, just take away 1 grab and replace it with the spike.

I think that's incorrect, I know for a fact that if MK is on 41% after a dthrow you can still spike him, which is after the max number of chaingrabs possible.

 

[swordsaint]

notice how 41 is not 43

 

[MetalMusicMan]

@marcbri and scoot

false lol, i've tried every single timing on olimar with walking and dash grabs and the olimar can di out, i forget the method of DI

it's just obscure

you can CG olimar to ~25 before he can DI and jump out without the boost

I always have trouble with dash and walking grabs on Oli as well. They always get out after like 2 or 3 grabs. It's a very odd chain grab.

Maybe I should start boost grabbing him...

 

[Omni]

What is boost grabbing?

I still want to know how to properly chaingrab Marth and Olimar.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

You know how you make an input for the Boost Pivot Grab? Same idea, but without the pivot part. Dash -> c-stick (down) -> grab

 

[DEHF]

I play a top ROB a lot, and can only get 3 grabs before he's able to just jump out, you sure it's 6?

The timing for Rob's walking chaingrab is difficult, you have to be very precise or else you'll after a few.

You sure we can't get 4 on Lucario with boost?

Also Olimar is a boost CG for sure. You can't walk or dash CG him, please note that on the list.

Lucario can footstool you if you try to boost grab.

I'm sure it works, the timing just gets difficult after 3 or 4. I'll test it out with later just make sure.

 

[pulse131]

you can do it to peach 3 times o.o
my peach has never been successfully cg'd by anything but icies and dedede. falcos i play either dont have the timing right or im just pro ;p
also im guessing that dash grab is better on snake cuz of his nade's, may want to include that idk. after all 8 grabs if the grabs are perfect can he not pull one out?

 

[DEHF]

you can do it to peach 3 times o.o
my peach has never been successfully cg'd by anything but icies and dedede. falcos i play either dont have the timing right or im just pro ;p
also im guessing that dash grab is better on snake cuz of his nade's, may want to include that idk. after all 8 grabs if the grabs are perfect can he not pull one out?

The timing for Peach is pretty strict, if you mistime it Falco gets naired

You can do walking chain grab Snake pretty well, it's not too difficult. I'd try not to dash grab if you don't have to in order to avoid tripping.

 

[pulse131]

alright cool. but as for the nades cant he pull them out after like, the 5th grab or something?

 

[DEHF]

Nope, not if you time it right.

 

[pulse131]

cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.
imma like, go CP now
dehf duh bess

 

[GimR]

I swear DEHF is the only top player that actively helps his character boards. I think ESAM and Nick Riddle do the same

 

[pulse131]

choice does too but not so much character specific. if any character tho its wuff.

 

[Seagull Joe]

Pretty sure Vex also helps Bowser's.

This data is very good. Thanks DEHF. I didn't know other characters had a boost grab other then Snake. Will see if Wolf's grab range increases. Also curious if Ganon grab range is bigger LOL.

 

[DEHF]

@Seagull Man every character has a boost grab and boost pivot grab, it's just that most characters aren't noticable or even worse than their regular grab.

@Godismyrock it's because I like seeing Falco win

 

[swordsaint]

speaking of falcos winning

i finally got second by defeating shaya

im happy. idc whether we're not on the same level as you americans.

 

[DEHF]

Good stuff!!!!

Who got first?

 

[swordsaint]

tedeth and his wariooooo

he's pretty good

 

[Choice]

<3 tedeth

also you can walk for the first grab vs marth.

 

[swordsaint]

silly tedeth. I would totally win if he couldn't do the wario chaingrab

but nah, he's better than atm. i hope to change that very soon

 

[DEHF]

Thanks Choice

Scoot camp the life out of him so that he doesn't grab you.

 

[swordsaint]

i usually just let him hit me on a platform

but i guess camping works too lol

 

[Choice]

just letting him it you makes it just like he ended the cg earlier.

 

[DEHF]

You should never let someone hit you, % is a valuable key to achieving victory. The less % you have, the more likely that it will be your character striking a pose in the victory screen.

 

[swordsaint]

lol i know that, but take 15 to be on about 70 is much better than being grabbed and ending at 120

I feel like wario doesnt have it too bad getting close to falco when he's camping to get that grab

 

[DEHF]

Wario is going to air camp you for a grab, whenever Wario jumps near you just roll away. Falco's roll is brokenly quick and long.