EXTENNNDUURRRRRR (samus gen. disc.)

[Rat]

I might go not really sure of my plans for next weekend. Considering it's only like 2-3 hours away and a good # of chicago people are going so I'd venture a 65% chance of Thunder, Lightning and Samus!

Aren't you like 10 hours away from Indiana?

 

[Hyesz]

^ Wut.

I'm thinking of making a few clips of my Melee Samus.

I'm nothing special mind.

 

[The Alpha Gundam]

So with PKMN stadium looking to be axed soon what are your thoughts on this you fellow samus mains
I'm kinda salty about this

 

[TheLifeRuiner]

i don't really care about PKMN stadium
it's cool and all
but i dunno

the trade-off is worth it

 

[ES Lite]

Sometimes i consider pkmn stadium a gamble. ppl can kill you gay-ly if you know what i mean.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Yea the edges are almost as bad as battlefield, too.

AND I WILL SEE YOU AT JAB2 (if you're there)

 

[Euclid]

I Stadium :'( I dunno why people decided to try to perfect an already perfect stage system. They ruined it.

 

[Lanowen]

The transformations don't really do anything for Samus, I would say most of them if not all of them are worse for her in the match-ups that count.

 

[TheLifeRuiner]

^

yup
i mean
really what will any samus do on the mountain or the fire one?

 

[TresChikon]

I like the windmill one, it lets me survive gay stuff like knees. But then he survives my gay stuff too :/

 

[Rat]

The only good change is Fire, mostly because you get a Free Charge Shot. Ground (or Rock) can do that to but The Foxhole is devastating.

Windmill helps you come down...sometimes. Plus you can cancel ground moves on it! Downsmash becomes much better without lag. Also you can Windmill on the Windmill for double points!

 

[TheLifeRuiner]

^

i like this man

 

[Euclid]

Homo .

 

[TheLifeRuiner]

sapiens .

.

 

[ES Lite]

....yes, it is speculated that samus is indeed a homo sapien.

anyways...i've always thought that pkmn stadium was the stage that if you took advantage of the normal part of the stage you can win. Because of those platforms you can missile cancel like crazy.

 

[Lanowen]

I am pretty sure it is not a stage you will really want to play against any high tiers.

Also Pokemon stadium is pretty bad for recovery too, grappling doesn't work as well as it does on the other stages.

 

[ihavespaceblondes]

And the ceiling is stupidly low, so Fox kills you way early.

 

[ES Lite]

Agreed. There are much better stages out there.

 

[TresChikon]

DL grants Samus mains immortality.

 

[ihavespaceblondes]

DL grants Samus mains immortality.

Depends on the matchup. I got 3-stocked last weekend by Lambchops on that stage, but only 1 stocked on Fountain and even took a game off him on Yoshi's Story.

 

[TheLifeRuiner]

i love yoshi's story

it's just an awesome stage to play on

i don't really mind getting counterpicked there

 

[ES Lite]

i love yoshi's story

it's just an awesome stage to play on

i don't really mind getting counterpicked there

does the letters F-O-X mean anything to you?

the only reason why i would pick that stage is for the straight ledge...easy grapple.
thats it.

 

[Lanowen]

Yeah I would say YS is the worst stage.

 

[TresChikon]

Yeah Ganon hurts on that stage too.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

YS is pretty good because they can't go above/behind and land on a platform during your edge guard. utilt hits them anyways.

Also, with good DI you still live for a while, hugs lived from lucky's mostly charged fsmash on the edge at ~120%

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

that's hugs

and Marth just ***** on YS. All of Samus' bad/not-so-bad matchups get worse on YS.

 

[TheLifeRuiner]

lol i know how bad it can be

i just like playing on it OK

 

[ihavespaceblondes]

Samus being bad on YS is "common sense" that's held over from 2005, despite no longer being true. I think it's one of her (read: my) best stages.

 

[ES Lite]

Base off of my gameplay, i need more space then what YS can provide. It all depends on the player i suppose....

 

[Hyesz]

If you're VERY proficient with Super Wavedash, the Bomb OOS can have it's uses.

But as most people said, it's for mindgames.

 

[ES Lite]

If you're VERY proficient with Super Wavedash, the Bomb OOS can have it's uses.

But as most people said, it's for mindgames.

i use super wavedash for my gameplay. I've gotten so good at it ppl dont know what to expect: super wavedash or mindgames. But to be honest super wavedash doesnt help you in the slightest of ways.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

One time my friend was playing luigi and he did a WD and I said "Woah did you just SWD?" and then i layed a bomb. Ofc this takes 41 frames so during that time he said "nah" and then I SWDed past him and dsmashed him off the stage, saying "oh but I did".

 

[ES Lite]

One time my friend was playing luigi and he did a WD and I said "Woah did you just SWD?" and then i layed a bomb. Ofc this takes 41 frames so during that time he said "nah" and then I SWDed past him and dsmashed him off the stage, saying "oh but I did".

lol nice. I still remember in one of the spocs i went to, i was playing this fox and i killed him and he respawned but when he did i was swding back and forth i herd him say under his breath, "what the fu@k" and he didnt realize that his invincibility frames ran out so i swd to him, dsmash, bomb, nair, chased him into a d-tilt, u-tilt and edge-guarded him from there. I then won the match.

 

[Rat]

Yoshi's story is very good for Samus, except against Marth (and maybe shiek).

The top platform is great. Fox and Falcon need to Dance around Samus which is hard on Yoshi's. The small size means they are off the stage sooner than later, which is great since Samus is really good at Edgeguarding.

My list of best neutral stages for Samus::
Dreamland
Yoshi's
FoD
Battlefield
Pokemon
FD (this is mostly because samus' platform traps are really good.)

 

[Cosmo!]

watty always takes my marth to FD

he always wins there too

i dont get it really but there it is

 

[Lanowen]

For Samus as far a neutrals go, I would put it in a list of best to worst like this:

FD
DL
FoD//
//BF
PS
YS

I don't understand why anyone would rather play on YS than anything else. It just makes things harder

 

[Tyserification]

I Battlefield XD

 

[Rat]

I'll try that next time I play you cosmo

 

[ThePrime]

I hate FD, no platforms is no fun

 

[TheLifeRuiner]

i find fd really really boring