Love the energy and enthusiasm!Guys, I went to shine this past weekend and it was amazing! I feel like I got significantly better each day I went! (Fri, sun) there were so many people there to play friendlies with and it seemed like there were dozens mains for each character. It was really great for getting practice with unfamiliar match ups.
I was having fun learning how to play samus and about melee fundamentals before shine but now I'm hooked. I want to learn all I can about this character and how to destroy other people with samus! (mostly sheiks and falcos...) but that's hard because I don't know any other samus mains and trying to dig through these boards gives me a huge headache. I talked with a lot of people over the weekend and got some great advice but I can't help but feel like our board is inferior to the boards for most other characters.
Compared to the other character pages this one is like a dark hole that people just throw information into. Like yeah we have this discussion page but it's over 150 pages long and i dont know maybe 60% of the posts are not meaningful at all. I tried sorting through it awhile ago to find useful stuff but quickly grew frustrated.
another thing that bugs me is that other characters have been so optimized. everything you need to know about the character like how they play neutral, how they combo, all their advanced tech, and all the miscellaneous crap about the character is all in one place in a couple different sticky posts on the character's board. But on this board it's a free for all. You can try searching for what you need but you may or may not find what you're looking for and then after that your only option is to sift through this black hole of a discussion board. Just look at this ganon page for instance
https://smashboards.com/threads/the-golden-nuggets-of-the-ganondorf-boards.437565/
There are like 2 top level ganon players and they have a much better character board than samus. unacceptable!
Don't you guys want to be the best? Don't samus mains always say they think samus is snubbed on the tier list? How can we get better if people can't even easily find out what moves string together on characters at certain percents!
I realize that there's more than enough examples of great samus' playing a plethora of characters on YouTube and in our video thread and I could just study those but, for players like me who sometimes need things spelled out to them inorder to understand them, I think we need to really vamp this place up.
Im still a noob melee player and a noob to this board but I hope at least some of you feel the same way. It's really up to you guys what we do from here but personally I think the first step is organization of what information we have already. Then we move to new organized discussion of various topics but mostly samus' neutral and character match ups. After we have that baseline we can do anything and talk about anything. The key is just keeping everything nice and organized so that even my mom could come here and read that you don't have to cc falcos laser, just wait until that ****** gets too close and f tilt him.
Anyways, regardless of what people think of this post or if anyone even replies at all, I'm going to be doing all I can to become a better samus. I'm just hoping that the small amount of samus mains here could band together and push our character to her limits so that we can punch a blaster-sized hole through any no good, rotten sheik main that gets in our way!
So let me know your thoughts, random internet people. I will help anyway I can but I think it's really up to the better samus' here to lead us to optimization.
Hate the following line from you, "That's hard because I don't know any other samus mains and trying to dig through these boards gives me a huge headache."
Samus mains are far and few, to get to know one you have to be either really lucky or network online/in person. Hugs and Duck frequently post on the facebook samus r&d group, and plenty of other samus mains that want to discuss relevant/new tech. I strongly suggest you join the group and give it a read though, (though is it not all nice and organized as you would like)
You going through the boards gives you a headache....?
Bruh going through these boards is a right of passage to find all the myriad of options samus has that no one else knows she has. Can i get you an advil for the headache? or perhaps an adderall to motivate you? (kidding on the adderall, drugs are bad)
You spout off how much you are enthused to play this character and take on the hard MUs like sheik, but don't even have the drive to go through the boards to gather information.... because it gives you a headache? Sounds like you like the character but want everything on a silver platter for you.
Going though the samus board to gather every useful piece of information would be a large undertaking (to say the least), and then asking someone to digest it into an organized manner is an even bigger task. There are guides out there, and there are plenty of advice on match ups for how to play the character to be able to play the character at a competitive level. Should you want to go the extra mile and sort the all the extra information to find the gold nuggets, it will show in your own game exceptionally based on the knowledge you found. How you find and understand the information produces your style of play/end result of a match. Asking other players to make a flow chart for you to follow is not only lazy but counterintuitive to melee itself. You need to create your own style and figure how to adapt to others. If you become a flow chart player you can get read just as easily as you learned your style.
TLDR: I love the idea, and when I get bored/motivated enough I would to do a project like this, since I have the mod power to reorganize the samus board/stickied threads. However, the discussion for samus is spread between a discord server, facebook group and smashboards. Simply putting time into smashboards to organize the information is not the best use of time/resources since good players can simply be asked questions in the discord/fb groups.