X-X-A is the hardest imo. Lol
I can use Tap+L+Cstick, Y-Y-A, X-R-A, but X-X-A is just hard for me. Lol
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"Dragonic Reverse" -- Yoshi Can Wavedash!
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I can use Tap+L+Cstick, Y-Y-A, X-R-A, but X-X-A is just hard for me. Lol
Elefterios
Smash Journeyman
the easiest is tap-Y-A. but tap sucks so meh
bigman40
Smash Master
Y B C-stick. Am still doing it with my controller, and I'm about 70% efficient at it in matches and training.
Turinssbb
Smash Rookie
im rlly getting dr down finally
im getting it like more than half of the time
jeez i was to lazy to practice until now XD
im getting it like more than half of the time
jeez i was to lazy to practice until now XD
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
I must suck then, because during the summer, I spent almost two weeks trying to get this down, but to no avail.
I would experiment with other controls but I also main Diddy and second Bowser in this game, and I also play a lot of Melee, where you cannot change the controls. Playing with Yoshi is tuff in Melee. I want to keep it similar, so I can go from game to game, from character to character.
I'm still trying to work DR with tap off (using Y-L-A, I never used L for shielding/shieldgrabbing/airdodging so I switched it to jump).
I hope this doesn't seem like I am not putting all my effort towards Yoshi, I just so happen to fail at learning this tech.
Silent Beast
Smash Journeyman
Nah, it's tough to do. I can't get it either. And some people are just born with faster fingers than others. Which isn't to say that you (or I, or anyone else) won't ever get it, but it'll just take extra effort to do so.
bigman40
Smash Master
You guys should know how I feel about this then. Since this move came out, everyone always asks for the best controller scheme that'll help them do this move. And as soon as I come up with an option(s), they become skeptical cause they have to change from something they were used to. I've been practicing this for about 8 months now, and I've recently just switched to GC due to problems with my Classic controller (which I've heard the same problem with other people who use it). It just shows that I've put random time into practicing something that I love, and feel that it's worthy for someone to unveil a new look at Yoshi's game. I'm that dedicated of a person to put stuff on the line when I may never be ready
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
*feels bad that I bring shame to the Yoshi boards*
I have to get it right, I must not fail
I have to get it right, I must not fail
DarkLeviathan89
Smash Lord
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I can't do the DR well myself. Don't worry, you're not alone.
Turinssbb
Smash Rookie
no shame man, one can still win battles by pure skill instead of techs. practice the easiest for of dr (swallow). its easy and useful still. then go from there.
bigman40
Smash Master
It's not necessary to master it. It's all up to you whether you wish to put forth the effort to learn it. No one is ashamed if you can't learn it.
Airborne
Smash Lord
x x a is the one i find easiest >.>...
I feel the same way, but whenever I get the chance i just keep practicing, so don't give up
Sharky
Smash Master
agreed. The only other combination that I've tried with some success was x r a
it nearly works perfect, but i have a little funny problem...
everytime after making a dr, i´m standing in front of my enemy doing nothing xD
i´m always too stunned about that move x)
but the move itselfs works very well^^
everytime after making a dr, i´m standing in front of my enemy doing nothing xD
i´m always too stunned about that move x)
but the move itselfs works very well^^
Airborne
Smash Lord
lolz it happened with me at one point too.... you just got to incorporate slamming your thumb back over the A button or down to the c-stick for some floggin' noggin' (or dsmash, i prefer the fsmash b/c it kills, even though i use DR for tilts, which i shouldnt XD) action!!!
SonicBlind
Smash Rookie
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I just learned this skill , its awesome , it seems like its hard to learn at first but if you stick with it its a breeze.
megajosh2
Smash Cadet
I discovered that it's reeeeeeeeally easy to cancel double jump with B. Of course this is probably useless, since I can't find a way to wavedash with it.
ScubaF_ingSteve
I eat stickers all the time, dude!
I can't seem to do it consistently. I'm starting to get it but it comes at times when I don't know what I did. Time for more practice I guess =\
I use (L button is set to jump) L-L-A and nothing. Any tips?
I use (L button is set to jump) L-L-A and nothing. Any tips?
megajosh2
Smash Cadet
Meh, I've always used the Z button to jump. I've got R to attack since I use that for DAC, so it shouldn't be TOO HARD to learn...
-PM-
Smash Ace
So when I quit brawl I couldn't do this so I picked up melee, learned fox, came back to brawl, and now I can do it 100% of the time everytime... offline LOL. Online nothing works. Also can you WL with this?
Techincally The best way would be Y L A/Cstick.
Some people turn tap jump on and CC X A/Cstick.
I personally X X A
Some Y Y A
I think bigman does some funky way of doing it.
EDIT: Holy crap new find.
If you Fast fall your attack (silly right?) You get it easyier.
Techincally The best way would be Y L A/Cstick.
Some people turn tap jump on and CC X A/Cstick.
I personally X X A
Some Y Y A
I think bigman does some funky way of doing it.
EDIT: Holy crap new find.
If you Fast fall your attack (silly right?) You get it easyier.
-PM-
Smash Ace
I'd use tap L cstick but I don't like messin with my style ;D
Sharky
Smash Master
I didn't know Isai ever used Yoshi, he's never put up a video of him from what I can remember. =/ Good stuff, though =D
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
What do you expect, Isai is too good.
Ok, I just mastered this tech. To all those who are trying to get it down consistently...
You must be wondering how everyone can say that this tech is in any way easy, up untill about 5 minuets ago. There is a trick to it.
Im using the default controls with tap-jump on: Jump with stick, double jump with X and aeriel with A.
I can do it almost EVERY time with those controls.
Now, the tick to doing it right is as follows... you have to smack the inputs into your controller like its a dirty little *****. Your thumb should only be on the control stick for about 0.2 seconds, just smack it up and to the side a bit. After 0.2 seconds all 3 inputs should be done.
Your flat of your right thumb should be over the X button and the left of your thumb should just be covering the A button. All you have to do it tap your thumb down.
Do all of this unified motion is one quick tap.
You must be wondering how everyone can say that this tech is in any way easy, up untill about 5 minuets ago. There is a trick to it.
Im using the default controls with tap-jump on: Jump with stick, double jump with X and aeriel with A.
I can do it almost EVERY time with those controls.
Now, the tick to doing it right is as follows... you have to smack the inputs into your controller like its a dirty little *****. Your thumb should only be on the control stick for about 0.2 seconds, just smack it up and to the side a bit. After 0.2 seconds all 3 inputs should be done.
Your flat of your right thumb should be over the X button and the left of your thumb should just be covering the A button. All you have to do it tap your thumb down.
Do all of this unified motion is one quick tap.
Dyz69
Smash Rookie
^^^^^^^^^^^
is confused to what has just been said @_@?
umm..not sure but using Scatz Y,Y,A
and a little bit of Y,L,A works fine to me
i do not want to use Tap Jump its just suicidal for my style however it appears that pressing
L sometimes doesnt work, but i do have to keep practicing more i got the normal down
but i need to do it while running, while turning around...
While in the heat of battle!! wih is the one that messes me up the most cause im so
concentrated in the match i forget all about it T_T
thanks for the info PM tough
is confused to what has just been said @_@?
umm..not sure but using Scatz Y,Y,A
and a little bit of Y,L,A works fine to me
i do not want to use Tap Jump its just suicidal for my style however it appears that pressing
L sometimes doesnt work, but i do have to keep practicing more i got the normal down
but i need to do it while running, while turning around...
While in the heat of battle!! wih is the one that messes me up the most cause im so
concentrated in the match i forget all about it T_T
thanks for the info PM tough
jasonhan416
Smash Apprentice
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This skill is really good for mindgames but.. its **** hard to pull it off in offline, let alone using it online >_>
the speed and the timing have to be accurate.
THE SPEED IS THE hardest part of DR.
Try pulling DR with 1/2, it's still hard, let alone with normal speed.
I Find this really pointlesss because it's just impossible for normal ppl >_>
the speed and the timing have to be accurate.
THE SPEED IS THE hardest part of DR.
Try pulling DR with 1/2, it's still hard, let alone with normal speed.
I Find this really pointlesss because it's just impossible for normal ppl >_>
D
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Guest
No its not. if you practice for like a week youll be able to do it at normal speed.
Put the time in if you want to learn it.
Put the time in if you want to learn it.
Okay guys, I'm to the point that DR is NOT worth learning. It's range is mediocre, compared to pivot grabbing, and ETS. It has no follow up abilites like PG-> Dthrow-> Egg.
It's just not that good, I know I even made a big deal about it, but it's not that great. It can't replace wave dashing it's just not near good enough. It's good for a surprise here and there, but chance of hitting it is like below 10%, people perfect shield the tilts which are best for DR. Dsmash is better for DRing imo, and will be the only way I use it from now on probably since it covers decent range and damages both sides. So who knows, I'm not feeling it anymore.
Opinions?
It's just not that good, I know I even made a big deal about it, but it's not that great. It can't replace wave dashing it's just not near good enough. It's good for a surprise here and there, but chance of hitting it is like below 10%, people perfect shield the tilts which are best for DR. Dsmash is better for DRing imo, and will be the only way I use it from now on probably since it covers decent range and damages both sides. So who knows, I'm not feeling it anymore.
Opinions?
@ D-Torr and others.
Dragonic Reverse is a good strategy for mindgames, and makes you attack quicker, more efficently, and makes you look flashy. But it's not altogether crucial for your success at playing Yoshi. Sure, it helps, but I don't know... there are other techniques that one can master.
Me, I haven't been able to do this yet, but I still **** loads of people all over where I live. I'm sure this would help, but I'm not going to stop using the little guy or give up because I haven't done it perfectly as of late. I know I can do it. I just haven't practiced doing it for long enough.
<3
Dragonic Reverse is a good strategy for mindgames, and makes you attack quicker, more efficently, and makes you look flashy. But it's not altogether crucial for your success at playing Yoshi. Sure, it helps, but I don't know... there are other techniques that one can master.
Me, I haven't been able to do this yet, but I still **** loads of people all over where I live. I'm sure this would help, but I'm not going to stop using the little guy or give up because I haven't done it perfectly as of late. I know I can do it. I just haven't practiced doing it for long enough.
<3
bigman40
Smash Master
You of all people, and now you're saying that it's not worth learning.......*leaves boards*
I just am in a rut playing lately, and have found absolutely no way to incorporate it anymore. It's pretty much useless t me at the moment. DT'ing is to hard online, and I can't play offline that much due to limited people to play.
I just think it's not going to have as good uses, i always thought for approaching it was good, but found out quickly you get shield punished from it easily. I then thought of tilts, it occasionally hits. It has it's uses, but not enough uses to be a staple.
YoshiIslander77z
Smash Apprentice
if u guys keep saying there no ways to use it there there wont be, we gotta try, test, fail, then suceeced to get a good answer. just never give up, never surrender no excuses, thats at least what i tihnk.
Metatitan
Smash Master
did u try a waveland (airdodge into ground gives a tiny slide) to DR?
Since I learnt how to pull it off every time I'm going to have to agree with Scatz, it is deffinatly worth learning. I think people just get discouraged when they have been trying for weeks and it still seems impossible to master, and so just pass it off as useless.
Im telling you, this tech IS usefull. When your opponant is on 120% and your struggling to get the kill they are expecting the up smash, its very hard to get in the kill when the opponant knows your going for it. But DRing into an Fsmash is something no one is going to predict.
I agree that your deffinatly not going to be using this tech as much as wavedashing, your peobably only going to use it a few times in the match, but with enough experience doing it will net you a hit almost every time.
If you can get to the point where it becomes fully integrated into your game and you can just call on it at any point without thought, it can be a very usefull tech.
Its just hard to use, but no one said Yoshi was an easy character to use.
I can hit the move any time I want to, that's not the problem.
It's just I need more experience. I came to grips with this. Thanks to Shiri. :]
shinigamipatini
Smash Rookie
great :D... i'll try