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Smash Champion
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Thanks, didn't know you played maylay doc
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Q&A Doc General Discussion: Ask and ye shall receive ft. otg and Shroomed!
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Shroomed
Smash Master
eighteenspikes
Smash Master
very nice. LOL at the youtube comments, <3 ****ty docs
I thought it was legit.
I laughed how the fact that I see the title "Prescribed to Get Off" (or something like that)
and the first clip is of mario
But small things, small things.
I laughed how the fact that I see the title "Prescribed to Get Off" (or something like that)
and the first clip is of mario
But small things, small things.
eighteenspikes
Smash Master
this video sux i did fthrow to dtilt to utilt to utilt to utilt to fully charged fsmash o my cousins pikachu thats way better than anything in this video!! voted 1
unknown522
Some guy
I finally bothered to look at the hitbox. There's a pretty big circle way below his feet.
see above.
D-throw -> f-smash / d-smash, around 100 - 120. Then edgeguard. Usually you will need to edgeguard falcon, unless they DI bad. They live forever.
A lot of clips were very funny. Not in a bad way.
Shroomed
Smash Master
it's hard to find really good combos in only tourney vids for me lol
and yea i know lol, i shouldnt have put any mario in the vid
w/e tho it was a 1 day project cuz it was the first day of summer i had absolutely NOTHING to do
u guys should all go to pound 4 cuz ima go
and yea i know lol, i shouldnt have put any mario in the vid
w/e tho it was a 1 day project cuz it was the first day of summer i had absolutely NOTHING to do
u guys should all go to pound 4 cuz ima go
unknown522
Some guy
I'll be there for sure
eighteenspikes
Smash Master
shroomed it's lookin really good for me going, we absolutely need to play a couple matches 
HomeMadeWaffles
Smash Lord
not a mario combo video
not a doc combo video
a SHROOMED COMBO VIDEO!
good job tho, nice video
u really thought shroomed was capable of that title son?!?!
not a doc combo video
a SHROOMED COMBO VIDEO!
good job tho, nice video
u really thought shroomed was capable of that title son?!?!
Shroomed
Smash Master
haha nice brandon
since i called it a shroomed combo video, i shoulda added some parts of me vs you and me vs darrell at that hayward tourney
since i called it a shroomed combo video, i shoulda added some parts of me vs you and me vs darrell at that hayward tourney
VGmasta
Smash Lord
3:03 in Shroomed's combo vid is interesting! I must know what match that was. Shroomed vs Tang I'm assuming?! And the magnifying glass Fsmash in Mute City on Falco was nice too! Great vid! HomeMadeWaffles, it's your turn to get a combo vid now! lol!
You actually can u.throw fair Falcon (and fox and falco) before 100%, i'd say like realistically, 85%. The thing is it wont kill, which is why most people dont ever do it (For it to kill, it takes retardedly bad DI. More retardedly bad than people NORMALLY do vs fair, which trust me, most people do.)
B.throw @ any percent actually isnt THAT great against capfal because if they DI it (which they have all the time in the world for), you'll wind up throwing them out and up. The more up they have, the stronger their recovery is. Not to say you cant shut it down, but you give them more options the higher they go. (This sounds kinda obvious, but my point is that b.throw isnt always the answer.) B.throw IS the answer if it kills though. Or the obvious "Im jacked up on the ledge."
D.throw -> f.air. You laugh, but that's actually a good thing to know what kinda guarenteed stuff you can do "at mcdonalds numbers." Especially if you want to make
As for d.throw to other stuff, it depends on what you're looking to do. One big thing that gets overlooked on FFers is d.throw -> jab, which can be done at any %. I mean ****, I forget about it alot.
You shoulda make some joke about those combos being mario before he got his PhD. XD
ssbbFICTION
Smash Champion
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I use dthrow jab on falcon if i grab at 0 because its hard for them to get away from it and it sets up for another grab.
He was asking how to set up a kill so like yah...i agree with most of what u said tho haha. Like he wanted a kill options so obviously u arent going to be trying to use a kill move at falcon at like 0 unless u rly think u can get a gimp XD. So like by "any percent" i meant like any sorta highish percent because u could get off edgeguards/kill moves more easily than like uthrowing at 60. *shrug*
He was asking how to set up a kill so like yah...i agree with most of what u said tho haha. Like he wanted a kill options so obviously u arent going to be trying to use a kill move at falcon at like 0 unless u rly think u can get a gimp XD. So like by "any percent" i meant like any sorta highish percent because u could get off edgeguards/kill moves more easily than like uthrowing at 60. *shrug*
unknown522
Some guy
that was such an awesome stock. It took long, but you made sure you didn't get punished for anything.
C is legit too. I remember when he played Raynex at TGMTSBCO.
what?
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yea w/ a lot of midtier chars you have to decide whether you're going to go for the grab combo or to set up for edgeguarding when you grab fast fallers at mid percents. you just gotta get some exp. to see what you wanna do.
etc.
etc.
ssbbFICTION
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what?
0_o
eighteenspikes
Smash Master
:veryconfu i do that too, also vs space pets
ssbbFICTION
Smash Champion
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Oh, it's actually not that hard to get out of, you just buffer a roll or spotdodge.
unknown522
Some guy
aww, you said it before I could.
Gea
Smash Master
Yup. Mixup material. Good mixup matieral but nothing's worse than going for that, whiffing the grab, getting grabbed then combo'd. 
Edit: Shroomed, love the SoR music.
Edit: Shroomed, love the SoR music.
otg
Smash Master
Dthrow -> jab -> regrab/tech chase seems legit... I don't get why you guys just don't go for the free uthrow-> usmash though, cause then you have like a billion things you could do to follow up.
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i call it the your opponent fails at escaping not-combos combo.
eighteenspikes
Smash Master
you shouldnt be able to follow up uthrow usmash....
otg
Smash Master
oh but you can (^.^)
After the usmash if they tech in a direction follow em up, if they tech in place dsmash, if they don't tech fsmash or jab for a jab reset.
After the usmash if they tech in a direction follow em up, if they tech in place dsmash, if they don't tech fsmash or jab for a jab reset.
Gea
Smash Master
Hm, while I do use throw -> usmash it doesn't seem like you have enough time to follow up usmash except at like, mid %s. I'll have to try this more.
JPOBS
Smash Hero
dear doc mario:
options from the ledge,
get some.
options from the ledge,
get some.
Gea
Smash Master
Our recovery is too terrible for many safe mixups. Best and most reliable is just ledgedashing asap into a shield.
unknown522
Some guy
can't you ledge WD?
You're invincible for most of it.
You're invincible for most of it.
ssbbFICTION
Smash Champion
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He has options from what I've seen but the ones he can use depends heavily on the character hes fighting and their abilities to limit is options at the ledge.
otg
Smash Master
Aren't these two options... the same? Also ledge WD is a good option but its not 100% safe, you can be hit during the cool down lag and thats super gay.
Gea
Smash Master
All and any aerials depend on your opponent doing something that can be punished or just not expecting it. Most characters can simply ftilt you out of a ledgehop and you die.
Airdodging past and regular get ups through attacks work fairly well if the person does something.
I am most fond of immediate ledgedashing into grabs/dsmash or trying ledgehop dair. Plenty of people stall on the edge with ledgehop pills but once again its really risky for a small reward. If you feel risky and they are close sometimes just Up +Bing back onto the stage actually works. Especially if there is a platform above to hit them onto.
Seriously though, I can't think of one character who can't embarrass a Doc trying to ledgehop something.
JPOBS
Smash Hero
Yea i can waveland onto the ledge no problem, but, the problem is, THAT ALL DOC CAN DO FROM THE LEDGE.
like literally, none of his aerialsfrom ledge are helpful. nair is pointless, fair takes too long, bair is only good if you can get over/around them,. dair is ok i guess, i've been messing around with it but it still sucks
so ya, you have to ledgehop waveland into either an attack (probably the riskiest option, i stick to jab), grab, or shield. gg
meh, im guess just used to playing falco where there are like a billion ways to get back on the stage from the ledge, but yea, most characters have atleast one go to aerial which wont be easily punished and can say gtfo my face. i feel like wavelanding gets predictable...-_-
like literally, none of his aerialsfrom ledge are helpful. nair is pointless, fair takes too long, bair is only good if you can get over/around them,. dair is ok i guess, i've been messing around with it but it still sucks
so ya, you have to ledgehop waveland into either an attack (probably the riskiest option, i stick to jab), grab, or shield. gg
meh, im guess just used to playing falco where there are like a billion ways to get back on the stage from the ledge, but yea, most characters have atleast one go to aerial which wont be easily punished and can say gtfo my face. i feel like wavelanding gets predictable...-_-
unknown522
Some guy
eighteenspikes
Smash Master
regular getup -> cc dtilt 
Gea
Smash Master
Ima start doing this and make a "combo vid" of only this.regular getup -> cc dtilt
Desh
Smash Ace
lmao ^^^^^^^^
win. XD
oh how i wish his dtilt wasnt so slow. XD would be soooo **** near the edge. =p
win. XD
oh how i wish his dtilt wasnt so slow. XD would be soooo **** near the edge. =p