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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

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Ramen Tengoku

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So do you guys think we will get more smash news before the E3 timeframe or do you think we will not get any news till then??
E3 seems to be teetering out. There's no guarantee Nintendo's (or many other studios for that matter) even gonna bother with it this year.

I wouldn't be surprised if they end up skipping it and just do their own thing in like may or something
 
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LiveStudioAudience

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A late spring/early summer Direct does feel fairly likely to me, its just a matter of it if it comes in May or June (with April potentially getting something like an Indie showcase). On one hand May would allow Nintendo to get ahead of various other E3 related events and three months after the February presentation doesn't feel too long a wait. On the other hand, the company may want to have some major buzz on them during the E3 season and third party companies could potentially prefer their Switch related reveals happen close to their own E3 plans.

It feels like it could go either way.
 

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New topic: What songs would people here like to see added to Smash Ultimate via update? My picks are:

Mario Songs:
Cackletta and Fawful Battle
Mario & Luigi Partners in Time Boss Battle
M&L Bowser's Inside Story Normal Mario Bros. Battle
M&L BIS Normal Bowser Battle
M&L Dream Team Boss Battle
M&L DT Giant Battle
Antasma Battle
Megaleg Battle (complete with sped-up variation)
Super Mario Galaxy Bowser Battle (both variations)
Rogueport

Punch-Out!! Songs:
King Hippo's Minor Circuit Title Fight
Major Circuit
Don Flamenco's Major Circuit Title Fight
Mr. Sandman Theme

Mega Man Songs:
Zero Battle (X2)
Sigma First Form (X2)
X Intro Stage (X4)
Jet Stingray Stage
Sigma First Form (X4)
Sigma Final Form (X4)

Street Fighter Songs:
Super Street Fighter 4 Character Select Theme (Arcade Mode)
Beautiful Bay Stage (Vietnam) (Super Street Fighter 4)
Crumbling Laboratory Stage (Super Street Fighter 4; both rounds)

Final Fantasy Songs:
FF6 Normal Battle (SNES remix)
FF7 Boss Battle (Dissidia remix)
FF8 Normal Battle (Dissidia)
FF8 Boss Battle (Dissidia)
FF9 Boss Battle
Stormblood Boss Theme (FF14)

Banjo-Kazooie Songs:
Gruntilda Battle (B-K)
Mayahem Temple
Old King Coal
Witchyworld
Terrydactyland
Grunty Industries

Other Songs:
Estark Battle (Dragon Quest 9)
Ascent (Tower of Guidance Theme from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)
King Dedede Battle Theme (Kirby's Return to Dreamland remix)
Mad Jack Battle (Donkey Kong 64)
Mr. Batty Twist (Mother 3)
 
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Rie Sonomura

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New topic: What songs would people here like to see added to Smash Ultimate via update? My picks are:

Note: My list is in spoilers because it's a long ass post.

Mario Songs:
Cackletta and Fawful Battle
Mario & Luigi Partners in Time Boss Battle
M&L Bowser's Inside Story Normal Mario Bros. Battle
M&L BIS Normal Bowser Battle
M&L Dream Team Boss Battle
M&L DT Giant Battle
Antasma Battle
Megaleg Battle (complete with sped-up variation)
Super Mario Galaxy Bowser Battle (both variations)
Rogueport

Punch-Out!! Songs:
King Hippo's Minor Circuit Title Fight
Major Circuit
Don Flamenco's Major Circuit Title Fight
Mr. Sandman Theme

Mega Man Songs:
Zero Battle (X2)
Sigma First Form (X2)
X Intro Stage (X4)
Jet Stingray Stage
Sigma First Form (X4)
Sigma Final Form (X4)

Street Fighter Songs:
Super Street Fighter 4 Character Select Theme (Arcade Mode)
Beautiful Bay Stage (Vietnam) (Super Street Fighter 4)
Crumbling Laboratory Stage (Super Street Fighter 4; both rounds)

Final Fantasy Songs:
FF6 Normal Battle (SNES remix)
FF7 Boss Battle (Dissidia remix)
FF8 Normal Battle (Dissidia)
FF8 Boss Battle (Dissidia)
FF9 Boss Battle
Stormblood Boss Theme (FF14)

Banjo-Kazooie Songs:
Gruntilda Battle (B-K)
Mayahem Temple
Old King Coal
Witchyworld
Terrydactyland
Grunty Industries

Other Songs:
Estark Battle (Dragon Quest 9)
Ascent (Tower of Guidance Theme from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)
King Dedede Battle Theme (Kirby's Return to Dreamland remix)
Mad Jack Battle (Donkey Kong 64)
Mr. Batty Twist (Mother 3)
Xenoblade: if I can’t get Elma, **** it. Patch in X music. I NEED UNCONTROLLABLE YESTERDAY. aBOreSSs too (Prog Ares half only)
Splatoon: if we don’t get playable Octolings, I need Tidal Rush, Spicy Calamari Inkantation, and 90% of the Octo Expansion OST including Fly Octo Fly and Nasty Majesty
Street Fighter: Volcanic Rim. Just that one.
Pokemon: the SwSh gym theme
Sonic: FULL VERSION OF LIVE AND LEARN. like WHY is it not the full version. also, Hi-Spec Robo Go, and if it's not already in (I forget), Aqua Road
Fire Emblem: God Shattering Star, Shambhala, and some TMS music. We have a Spirit from TMS, getting some tunes shouldn’t be an issue
Kirby: P-R-O-G-R-A-M
F-Zero: More GX music, including the pilot themes pls I beg u
Final Fantasy: some non-7 music. Hot take Saber’s Edge would slap, say what you want about XIII but that song is a banger
Persona: Life Will Change, I Believe

probably some more I can’t name atm
 
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Megadoomer

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New topic: What songs would people here like to see added to Smash Ultimate via update? My picks are:

Note: My list is in spoilers because it's a long ass post.

Mario Songs:
Cackletta and Fawful Battle
Mario & Luigi Partners in Time Boss Battle
M&L Bowser's Inside Story Normal Mario Bros. Battle
M&L BIS Normal Bowser Battle
M&L Dream Team Boss Battle
M&L DT Giant Battle
Antasma Battle
Megaleg Battle (complete with sped-up variation)
Super Mario Galaxy Bowser Battle (both variations)
Rogueport

Punch-Out!! Songs:
King Hippo's Minor Circuit Title Fight
Major Circuit
Don Flamenco's Major Circuit Title Fight
Mr. Sandman Theme

Mega Man Songs:
Zero Battle (X2)
Sigma First Form (X2)
X Intro Stage (X4)
Jet Stingray Stage
Sigma First Form (X4)
Sigma Final Form (X4)

Street Fighter Songs:
Super Street Fighter 4 Character Select Theme (Arcade Mode)
Beautiful Bay Stage (Vietnam) (Super Street Fighter 4)
Crumbling Laboratory Stage (Super Street Fighter 4; both rounds)

Final Fantasy Songs:
FF6 Normal Battle (SNES remix)
FF7 Boss Battle (Dissidia remix)
FF8 Normal Battle (Dissidia)
FF8 Boss Battle (Dissidia)
FF9 Boss Battle
Stormblood Boss Theme (FF14)

Banjo-Kazooie Songs:
Gruntilda Battle (B-K)
Mayahem Temple
Old King Coal
Witchyworld
Terrydactyland
Grunty Industries

Other Songs:
Estark Battle (Dragon Quest 9)
Ascent (Tower of Guidance Theme from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)
King Dedede Battle Theme (Kirby's Return to Dreamland remix)
Mad Jack Battle (Donkey Kong 64)
Mr. Batty Twist (Mother 3)
Final Fantasy: Dancing Mad: all 17+ minutes of it.
Bayonetta: You May Call Me Father. Out of all of the Bayonetta songs, this seems like the biggest oversight. On a related note, The Greatest Jubilee.
Persona: Take Over - shame that they didn't include it with the update that added Sophia's spirit or something like that. Also, any of the Persona 5 Strikers remixes, like Rivers In The Desert.
Mario: Pretty much any song from Super Mario RPG - it's a shame that Geno's Mii costume didn't even come with a single piece of music.
Banjo-Kazooie: The Final Battle or Hag 1 - it's a shame that they left out the final boss themes from the Banjo-Kazooie games. Also, the music in Nuts and Bolts could get some love - I realize the game itself wasn't well-received, but the music was amazing. Showdown Town was great, and so was Grunty's Final Challenge.
Xenoblade: Uncontrollable - I'm not sure if it's licensing issues, but it seems weird that Xenoblade Chronicles X got no music in this game.
Earthbound: Pokey Means Business - while it might not be as memorable as his Mother 3 theme, it's still great.
Kirby: Dedede's Royal Payback, especially with his new Final Smash.
Metal Gear: Rules of Nature, I'm My Own Master Now, A Stranger I Remain, The Stains of Time, Collective Consciousness, or It Has To Be This Way - basically any boss theme from Metal Gear Rising, even if they have to be instrumental. On a non-Rising note, if they could get in Snake vs. Ocelot Medley, that would be great.
Sonic: Chemical Plant Zone and the final boss theme from Sonic Lost World
Other: The first level theme from Ghosts 'n' Goblins - surprised that some version of this didn't come with Arthur's Mii costume. Tables Turn from the Wonderful 101 would be great as well.

Also, the full DK Rap. Give us the last two verses, you cowards! I wouldn't say no to other songs from the Donkey Kong Country games, though - not sure how well Aquatic Ambience would fit a fight, but there are songs like Hothead Bop, Bobbing Basalt, and K. Rool Duel that could work.
 
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LiveStudioAudience

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There's far too many gems in the DK soundtrack range that still need to be in Smash:
DKC: (Fear Factory, Forest Frenzy, Treetop Rock)
DKC2: (Krook's March, Hot Head Bop, Forest Interlude, Disco Train, Jib Jig, Klomp's Romp)
DKC3: (Mill Fever, Treetop Tumble, Nuts & Bolts, Rockface Rumble)
DKC R: (Tidal Terror, Bobbing Basalt)
DKC TF: ( Busted Bayou, Big Top Bop, Windmill Hills, Alpine Incline, Grassland Groove, Scorch N' Torch, Seashore War)

And that's just the main Country songs. I'm sure others have ones from 64 and Jungle Beat that would be solid fits as well.
 

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Sorry for posting again so soon after my last one but this actually made me think of something else. How would you guys feel if Disney only let Sora into Smash if he came along with a few Disney characters? Let’s just say Donald & Goofy in his final smash performing Trinity Limit as well as being in one of his victory animations as well as being spirits & stage cameos. Also, Disney would never let them use just Donald & Goofy and not Mickey so King Mickey would be a stage cameo and a spirit too. Maybe even a couple other characters relevant to the overall plot as spirits/stage cameos like Jimminy Cricket and Yen Sid.


Now honestly? My controversial opinion is this is how I would want Kingdom Hearts representation in the game. Could Kingdom Hearts work in Smash without any Disney elements? A lot of people have argued yes and while it could, to me the main draw of KH is it being a combination of Disney & FF. I mean, Sora’s design even mirrors Mickey Mouse’s clothes. It would feel like a neutered version of Kingdom Hearts if it didn’t contain any Disney elements, Sora without Donald and Goofy in some capacity just doesn’t sit right to me. And the keyblade even has Mickey ears on it. As long as it feels like they’re doing an accurate representation of the game instead of it being just a Disney advertisement, it’d be perfect. And I mean, if Nintendo goes through the trouble of getting Kingdom Hearts rights from Disney (and it IS owned by Disney), why not get a few Disney elements too? Ultimate is already a fever dream enough anyways to where having Mickey & Mario in the same game isn’t as jarring as it would be ten years ago.
I got Sora so I wouldnt care
 

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New topic: What songs would people here like to see added to Smash Ultimate via update? My picks are:

Mario Songs:
Cackletta and Fawful Battle
Mario & Luigi Partners in Time Boss Battle
M&L Bowser's Inside Story Normal Mario Bros. Battle
M&L BIS Normal Bowser Battle
M&L Dream Team Boss Battle
M&L DT Giant Battle
Antasma Battle
Megaleg Battle (complete with sped-up variation)
Super Mario Galaxy Bowser Battle (both variations)
Rogueport

Punch-Out!! Songs:
King Hippo's Minor Circuit Title Fight
Major Circuit
Don Flamenco's Major Circuit Title Fight
Mr. Sandman Theme

Mega Man Songs:
Zero Battle (X2)
Sigma First Form (X2)
X Intro Stage (X4)
Jet Stingray Stage
Sigma First Form (X4)
Sigma Final Form (X4)

Street Fighter Songs:
Super Street Fighter 4 Character Select Theme (Arcade Mode)
Beautiful Bay Stage (Vietnam) (Super Street Fighter 4)
Crumbling Laboratory Stage (Super Street Fighter 4; both rounds)

Final Fantasy Songs:
FF6 Normal Battle (SNES remix)
FF7 Boss Battle (Dissidia remix)
FF8 Normal Battle (Dissidia)
FF8 Boss Battle (Dissidia)
FF9 Boss Battle
Stormblood Boss Theme (FF14)

Banjo-Kazooie Songs:
Gruntilda Battle (B-K)
Mayahem Temple
Old King Coal
Witchyworld
Terrydactyland
Grunty Industries

Other Songs:
Estark Battle (Dragon Quest 9)
Ascent (Tower of Guidance Theme from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)
King Dedede Battle Theme (Kirby's Return to Dreamland remix)
Mad Jack Battle (Donkey Kong 64)
Mr. Batty Twist (Mother 3)
More Mario galaxy songs pls I am tired of Gusty garden it’s not even the best Mario galaxy song out there
Also I think the end credit from teleroboxer will be great we don’t have any song from virtual boy
Also Sonic rush adventure boss theme
 
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Mr. Robotto

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New topic: What songs would people here like to see added to Smash Ultimate via update? My picks are:

Mario Songs:
Cackletta and Fawful Battle
Mario & Luigi Partners in Time Boss Battle
M&L Bowser's Inside Story Normal Mario Bros. Battle
M&L BIS Normal Bowser Battle
M&L Dream Team Boss Battle
M&L DT Giant Battle
Antasma Battle
Megaleg Battle (complete with sped-up variation)
Super Mario Galaxy Bowser Battle (both variations)
Rogueport

Punch-Out!! Songs:
King Hippo's Minor Circuit Title Fight
Major Circuit
Don Flamenco's Major Circuit Title Fight
Mr. Sandman Theme

Mega Man Songs:
Zero Battle (X2)
Sigma First Form (X2)
X Intro Stage (X4)
Jet Stingray Stage
Sigma First Form (X4)
Sigma Final Form (X4)

Street Fighter Songs:
Super Street Fighter 4 Character Select Theme (Arcade Mode)
Beautiful Bay Stage (Vietnam) (Super Street Fighter 4)
Crumbling Laboratory Stage (Super Street Fighter 4; both rounds)

Final Fantasy Songs:
FF6 Normal Battle (SNES remix)
FF7 Boss Battle (Dissidia remix)
FF8 Normal Battle (Dissidia)
FF8 Boss Battle (Dissidia)
FF9 Boss Battle
Stormblood Boss Theme (FF14)

Banjo-Kazooie Songs:
Gruntilda Battle (B-K)
Mayahem Temple
Old King Coal
Witchyworld
Terrydactyland
Grunty Industries

Other Songs:
Estark Battle (Dragon Quest 9)
Ascent (Tower of Guidance Theme from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)
King Dedede Battle Theme (Kirby's Return to Dreamland remix)
Mad Jack Battle (Donkey Kong 64)
Mr. Batty Twist (Mother 3)
Anything else besides the entire Street Fighter 2 music library for the love of god. I would be really happy with a couple of notable Alpha 2 themes, Third Strike tracks and SFIV ones. But nope, get 2 versions of every track in SF2 instead! At least we got some cool remixes out of it I guess.

I could also list like a hundred SNK songs, but I'm fine with what I got. Too bad they literally picked the worst Esaka though (We could've gotten Goodbye Esaka or Esaka? instead...).
 

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Yeah, it makes sense in that context (besides maybe Ryoma. He seems more like he'd fit a heavy hitter mold better). But doesn't Project M try to have at least some significant differences between characters? That's the thing that confuses me most about it. I know Lyn is built off of Marth in PM, so unless Lucina and Chrom are really different than their Ultimate counterparts, the mod has 6 variations of Marth's moveset. That feels like a lot in a game that's trying not to go the echo route.

I could be mistaken. It's been a long time since I looked at it in any depth. This is probably just something that was made with PM as a base, so less control over every inclusion.

Edit: Okay, so I looked up some video, and some major editing's been done since the last time I saw the mod. Lucina and Chrom are very much their Ultimate selves, and Lyn is really unique. I can't find a single video on Navarre, though. Nobody seems to care about him in that mod.
Really late, but here's the one video of navarre gameplay I could find. The quality... sucks, but from what I can make out, Navarre doesn't seem to have much Marth or Lyn in him.
And Metal Face. Rather than why, how? Just, how? I'm more curious than anything.
while i'm at it, here's a Metal Face video, also featuring a ****ty version of Sephiroth that predates his Ultimate version.
 

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Final Fantasy: Dancing Mad: all 17+ minutes of it.
MFW you play a casual game of Smash and don't get to the second phase of the song because the match is over by then. :4pacman: (Honestly, that and other long songs would benefit from the different phases being selectable.)

As for already repped franchises that could use more music:

  • The Pac-Man music is currently hyper-focused around Namco Arcades, and that's heavily to its detriment IMHO (likewise with the stage) since there's a lot of console music Pac-Man could draw from.
  • A bit more Megaman music would help. The selection from the sub-series is woefully limited: X, Zero and Star Force have only a handful of tracks combined even if X's Opening Stage got a remix. Battle Network, Legends and ZX are entirely left out in this department. So expanding there could help shore up things.
  • Dragon Quest's got a huge amount of good-to-amazing songs, but this is entering unrealistic territory considering the composer. Still worth pointing out.
 

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Really late, but here's the one video of navarre gameplay I could find. The quality... sucks, but from what I can make out, Navarre doesn't seem to have much Marth or Lyn in him.
Um...Is the video quality more garbage than I was expecting or is Brawl way slower than I remember?

EDIT: A little of both it seems. Also, is Navarre's dash animation of him flying? 'Cuz that doesn't make sense.
 
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New topic: What songs would people here like to see added to Smash Ultimate via update? My picks are:

Note: My list is in spoilers because it's a long ass post.

Mario Songs:
Cackletta and Fawful Battle
Mario & Luigi Partners in Time Boss Battle
M&L Bowser's Inside Story Normal Mario Bros. Battle
M&L BIS Normal Bowser Battle
M&L Dream Team Boss Battle
M&L DT Giant Battle
Antasma Battle
Megaleg Battle (complete with sped-up variation)
Super Mario Galaxy Bowser Battle (both variations)
Rogueport

Punch-Out!! Songs:
King Hippo's Minor Circuit Title Fight
Major Circuit
Don Flamenco's Major Circuit Title Fight
Mr. Sandman Theme

Mega Man Songs:
Zero Battle (X2)
Sigma First Form (X2)
X Intro Stage (X4)
Jet Stingray Stage
Sigma First Form (X4)
Sigma Final Form (X4)

Street Fighter Songs:
Super Street Fighter 4 Character Select Theme (Arcade Mode)
Beautiful Bay Stage (Vietnam) (Super Street Fighter 4)
Crumbling Laboratory Stage (Super Street Fighter 4; both rounds)

Final Fantasy Songs:
FF6 Normal Battle (SNES remix)
FF7 Boss Battle (Dissidia remix)
FF8 Normal Battle (Dissidia)
FF8 Boss Battle (Dissidia)
FF9 Boss Battle
Stormblood Boss Theme (FF14)

Banjo-Kazooie Songs:
Gruntilda Battle (B-K)
Mayahem Temple
Old King Coal
Witchyworld
Terrydactyland
Grunty Industries

Other Songs:
Estark Battle (Dragon Quest 9)
Ascent (Tower of Guidance Theme from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)
King Dedede Battle Theme (Kirby's Return to Dreamland remix)
Mad Jack Battle (Donkey Kong 64)
Mr. Batty Twist (Mother 3)
I Think I Went Overboard...

Mario
-Come On! (Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga)
-Super Mario Land Overworld theme
-Shogun Studios (Paper Mario: The Origami King)
-Bowser's Fury Theme

Pokemon
-Battle - Sword & Shield
-Gym Leader Battle (SwSh)
-Battle Tower (SwSh)
-Wild Area (SwSh)
-Turffield (SwSh)

Mother
-New Age Retro Hippie (Earthbound)

Fire Emblem
-God Shattering Star (Three Houses)
-Shambhala (Three Houses)
-Return To Nifl (Heroes)
-Loki's Theme (Heroes)

Metal Gear
-Rules Of Nature (Metal Gear Rising)
-Stranger I Remain (Metal Gear Rising)
-I'm My Own Master Now (Metal Gear Rising)
-The Only Thing I Know For Real (Metal Gear Rising)
-Stains Of Time (Metal Gear Rising)
-Red Sun (Metal Gear Rising)
-Collective Consciousness (Metal Gear Rising)
-It Has to be this way (Metal Gear Rising)

Sonic
-Green Light Ride (Team Sonic Racing)
-Can You Feel The Sunshine? (Sonic R)
-Hydrocity Zone Act 2 (Sonic Mania)
-Battle With Death Queen (Sonic Forces)
-Aquarium Park Act 1 (Sonic Colors)
-Free (Sonic Free Riders)
-Endless Possibilities (Sonic Unleashed)
-Werehog Battle (Sonic Unleashed)
-Dreams Of an Absolution (Sonic The Hedgehog 2006)
-WITH ME (Sonic and the Black Knight)
-The Palace That Was Found (Sonic and the Secret Rings)
-Un-Gravitify (Sonic Adventure Zero Gravitiy)
-A New Venture (Sonic Rush Adventure)
-Wrapped In Black (Sonic Rush)
-Velanova (Sonic Rush)
-Metal Scratchin' (Sonic Rush)
-What I'm Made Of (Sonic Heroes)
-Team Chaotix (Sonic Heroes)
-We Can (Sonic Heroes)
-This Machine (Sonic Heroes)
-Follow Me (Sonic Heroes)
-I Am All Of Me (Shadow The Hedgehog)
-Never Turn Back (Shadow The Hedgehog)
-All Hail Shadow (Shadow The Hedgehog)
-Sonic Speed Riders (Sonic Riders)
-That's The Way I Like It (Sonic Adventure 2)
-A Ghost Pumpkin Soup (Sonic Adventure 2)
-Fly In The Freedom (Sonic Adventure 2)
-Throw It All Away (Sonic Adventure 2)
-It Doesn't Matter (Sonic Adventure 2)
-It Doesn't Matter (Sonic Adventure)
-Theme of E-102ɣ (Sonic Adventure)
-Believe In Myself (Sonic Adventure)
-Unkown from M.E. (Sonic Adventure)
-My Sweet Passion (Sonic Adventure)
-Windy And Ripply (Sonic Adventure)
-Windy Hill (Sonic Adventure)
-Ice Cap Zone (Sonic 3)
-Stardust Speedway Bad Future (Sonic CD)

Animal Crossing
-12 P.M. Animal Crossing New Horizons

Xenoblade
-Black Tar (Xenoblade X)
-Wir Fliegen (Xenoblade X)
-The Key We've Lost (Xenoblade X)
-Uncontrollable (Xenoblade X)
-THEMEX (Xenoblade X)
-Drifting Soul (Xenoblade 2)
-Shadow Of The Lowlands (Xenoblade 2)

Street Fighter
-Juri theme (Street Fighter V)
-Volcanic Rim (Street Fighter IV)
-Indestructible (Street Fighter IV)
-Theme Of Q (Street Fighter III 3rd Strike)

Final Fantasy
-War: The White Weapon (Final Fantasy: Type-0)
-Trisection (Final Fantasy Tactics)
-Awakening Trailer (FFXVI)
-Apocalypsis Noctis Dramatic (FFXV)
-Apocalypsis Aquarius (FFXV)
-The Fight Is On! (FFXV)
-Rise (FFXIV)
-Under The Weight (FFXIV)
-Answers (FFXIV)
-Dragonsong (FFXIV)
-To The Edge (FFXIV)
-Somnus Nemoris (Versus-XIII)
-Almighty Bhunivelze (Lighting Returns)
-Etro's Champion (FFXIII-2)
-Blinded By The Light (FFXIII)
-Defiers Of Fate (FFXIII)
-Crazy Chocobo (FFXIII)
-Clash Of Swords (FFXII)
-Boss Battle (FFXII)
-Theme Of The Empire (FFXII)
-Vana'Diel March (FFXI)
-Zanarkand (FFX)
-Otherworld (FFX)
-Isn't It Wonderful? (FFX)
-Fight With Seymour (FFX)
-The Dark Messenger (FFIX)
-Battle - Final Fantasy IX
-A Place To Call Home (FFIX)
-You're Not Alone (FFIX)
-Liberi Fatalli (FFVIII)
-Man With a Machine Gun (FFVIII)
-Waltz For The Moon (FFVIII)
-Maybe I'm a Lion (FFVIII)
-Dancing Mad (FFVI)
-Celes's Theme (FFVI)
-Battle To The Death (FFVI)
-The Battle At The Big Bridge (FFV)
-Mambo De Chocobo (FFV)
-The Final Battle (FFIV)
-The Red Wings (FFIV)
-Battle - Final Fantasy IV
-Battle With The 4 Fiends (FFIV)
-The Everlasting World (FFIII)
-The Rebel Army (FFII)
-Mt. Gulg (FF)
-Matoya's Cavern (FF)
-The Messenger (Dissidia: Duodecim)

Splatoon
-Tidal Rush (Splatoon 2)
-Spicy Calamari Inkantation (Splatoon 2)
-Nasty Majesty (Octo Expansion)
-Fly Octo Fly (Octo Expansion)
-Ebb & Flow (Octo)
-Into The Light (Octo Expansion)

Persona
-A Lone Prayer (Revelations: Persona)
-Unbreakable Tie (Persona 2: Innocent Sin)
-Specialist (Persona 4)
-Deep Breath, Deep Breath (Persona 3)
-Life Will Change (Persona 5)
-Keeper Of Lust (Persona 5)
-Colors Flying High (Persona 5 Royal)
-Take Over (Persona 5 Royal)
-I Believe (Persona 5 Royal)
-Throw Away Your Mask (Persona 5 Royal)
-You Are Stronger (Persona 5 Strikers)
-Daredevil (Persona 5 Strikers)
-Counter Strike (Persona 5 Strikers)
-What You Wish For (Persona 5 Strikers)
-Axe To Grind (Persona 5 Strikers)

Dragon Quest
-Evil One (Dragon Quest IX)
-Great Battle In The Vast Sky (Dragon Quest VIII)

I'm not including other because then I would be here all day.
I almost certainly missed a few songs I want
 
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Really late, but here's the one video of navarre gameplay I could find. The quality... sucks, but from what I can make out, Navarre doesn't seem to have much Marth or Lyn in him.
Um...Is the video quality more garbage than I was expecting or is Brawl way slower than I remember?
It's the video quality, specifically the frames being tanked to the ground (perhaps by bad recording equipment, I dunno honestly see Peridot's answer below). Here's a better link. Besides, it's a Project M mod, and Project M's speed is much more akin to Melee's.
 
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Um...Is the video quality more garbage than I was expecting or is Brawl way slower than I remember?

EDIT: A little of both it seems. Also, is Navarre's dash animation of him flying? 'Cuz that doesn't make sense.
I think the guy's running Dolphin on a not-very good computer, and that's why the footage is so bad.
 

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I’m kinda surprised we haven’t gotten any characters with the moveset potential to turn invisible. That seems like such a simple gimmick to make.

Perhaps if Dark Samus was decloned she could have the stealth field generator. Or Smoke/Cyber Smoke from Mortal Kombat if by some miracle Scorpion, Sub Zero, Liu Kang, Or Raiden weren’t the MK Rep.
 

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I’m kinda surprised we haven’t gotten any characters with the moveset potential to turn invisible. That seems like such a simple gimmick to make.

Perhaps if Dark Samus was decloned she could have the stealth field generator. Or Smoke/Cyber Smoke from Mortal Kombat if by some miracle Scorpion, Sub Zero, Liu Kang, Or Raiden weren’t the MK Rep.
We used to have an item from Perfect Dark that turned people invisible back in Melee. And unlike the Motion Sensor Bomb (which too was based on weaponry from Rare's FPS games) they didn't even bother keeping it around and reskinning it into an original Smash item in later, post MS buyout Smash games. I think that's pretty telling.
 
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We used to have an item from Perfect Dark that turned people invisible back in Melee. And unlike the Motion Sensor Bomb (which too was based on weaponry from Rare's FPS games) they didn't even bother keeping it around and reskinning it into an original Smash item in later, post MS buyout Smash games. I think that's pretty telling.
It's strange too that the side effect of invisibility itself returned in all future games, they bothered to put in full effort to program it, it just never was an explicit in gameplay item again.
 
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I’m kinda surprised we haven’t gotten any characters with the moveset potential to turn invisible. That seems like such a simple gimmick to make.

Perhaps if Dark Samus was decloned she could have the stealth field generator. Or Smoke/Cyber Smoke from Mortal Kombat if by some miracle Scorpion, Sub Zero, Liu Kang, Or Raiden weren’t the MK Rep.
I mean Hero can turn invisible. It's just one of the rarer Hocus Pocus effects.
 

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E3 seems to be teetering out. There's no guarantee Nintendo's (or many other studios for that matter) even gonna bother with it this year.

I wouldn't be surprised if they end up skipping it and just do their own thing in like may or something
If they’re not doing E3, they should just do one last Smash direct where they reveal CP10 and then do their presentation plus any additional DLC then reveal the last character at the end.
 

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Street Fighter's music at this present moment is restricted strictly to songs from Street Fighter II, which is odd because there are 38 Street Fighter songs. I would love to see Street Fighter songs from other games, especially some of them from Third Strike.
 

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I’m kinda surprised we haven’t gotten any characters with the moveset potential to turn invisible. That seems like such a simple gimmick to make.

Perhaps if Dark Samus was decloned she could have the stealth field generator. Or Smoke/Cyber Smoke from Mortal Kombat if by some miracle Scorpion, Sub Zero, Liu Kang, Or Raiden weren’t the MK Rep.
True Invisibility is fairly uncommon I think. It's pretty common to become translucent, but truly invisible is pretty rare. As far as characters that I know have invisibility as a mechanic, it's like, Dr. Coyle and that's it.

We used to have an item from Perfect Dark that turned people invisible back in Melee. And unlike the Motion Sensor Bomb (which too was based on weaponry from Rare's FPS games) they didn't even bother keeping it around and reskinning it into an original Smash item in later, post MS buyout Smash games. I think that's pretty telling.
Eh, considering it's still an effect in Special Smash, it probably didn't have any particular reason for getting cut. I mean, they've also got rid of Red Shells, the Cracker Launcher, the Parasol, the Team Healer, and more (and these don't even have replacements), and I doubt all of them were done away with because they were quote unquote "bad".
 

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True Invisibility is fairly uncommon I think. It's pretty common to become translucent, but truly invisible is pretty rare. As far as characters that I know have invisibility as a mechanic, it's like, Dr. Coyle and that's it.


Eh, considering it's still an effect in Special Smash, it probably didn't have any particular reason for getting cut. I mean, they've also got rid of Red Shells, the Cracker Launcher, the Parasol, the Team Healer, and more (and these don't even have replacements), and I doubt all of them were done away with because they were quote unquote "bad".
Tbf invisibility isn't really fun for both players, I'm also very upset as a Hero player that the stat boosts and Kafrizzle charges stay up when you turn invisible meaning it doesn't even do anything
 

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Eh, considering it's still an effect in Special Smash, it probably didn't have any particular reason for getting cut. I mean, they've also got rid of Red Shells, the Cracker Launcher, the Parasol, the Team Healer, and more (and these don't even have replacements), and I doubt all of them were done away with because they were quote unquote "bad".
For the next Smash Bros. "Every item is here!" Including Assist Trophies like Resetti and Pokemon like Beedrill and Unown.
 
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For the next Smash Bros. "Every item is here!" Including Assist Trophies like Resetti and Pokemon like Beedrill and Unown.
I think the biggest implication of that would be the fact that we would have Assist Trophies like :ultlittlemac::ultdarksamus::ultisabelle: and Poke Ball Pokemon like :ultcharizard: right alongside their playable counterparts, finally killing the "rule" of either of those roles deconfirming.
 
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Tbf invisibility isn't really fun for both players, I'm also very upset as a Hero player that the stat boosts and Kafrizzle charges stay up when you turn invisible meaning it doesn't even do anything
Yeah, it's a double edge sword. They can't see you, but also you can't see you so you have to be pretty familiar with the controls in order to do anything with it. It's probably why Dr. Coyle only goes inviz for about a second; just long enough to force a reaction if you do something they didn't predict.

Now that I think about it though, I do remember Reptile having the mechanic, though I've never really seen it in action. X-23 has it as well, but it's pretty difficult to figure out just what that super does. As someone trying to get used to traditional fighting games, you kind of end up pressing buttons and hoping that does something that doesn't confuse you.

Also, lol on the Hero thing. At least it's only accessible if you get the specific random on random option, so he in no way relies on it.
 

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I think the biggest implication of that would be the fact that we would have Assist Trophies like :ultlittlemac::ultdarksamus::ultisabelle: and Poke Ball Pokemon like :ultcharizard: right alongside their playable counterparts, finally killing the "rule" of either of those roles deconfirming.
Why do you think it got changed to item instead of everyone?
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I think the biggest implication of that would be the fact that we would have Assist Trophies like :ultlittlemac::ultdarksamus::ultisabelle: and Poke Ball Pokemon like :ultcharizard: right alongside their playable counterparts, finally killing the "rule" of either of those roles deconfirming.
It also helps they're pretty cool Assist characters even to this day. Though who knows if Sakurai would disable the AT while the playable character is there or not. Regardless, they're fun~
 

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It also helps they're pretty cool Assist characters even to this day. Though who knows if Sakurai would disable the AT while the playable character is there or not. Regardless, they're fun~
It would be fun seeing playable characters as Assist Trophies within the same game:
  • Dark Samus would depress people.
  • Isabelle would help out when she's not fighting.
  • Little Mac...Honestly would be the same.
As far as ones that aren't already Assist Trophies, I think these would be pretty cool:
  • :ultsteve: Builds a house with more sturdy blocks.
  • :ultshulk: Uses Monado Speed, Shield, or Purge depending on the situation in response to a vision.
  • :ultken: Does the Ken flowchart meme. It would be funny if all of the Street Fighter Assist Trophies were memes.
  • :ultpacman: Joins the Ghosts Assist Trophy when he's not being played. EDIT: Always dies just before the Assist Trophy disappears.
  • :ultmegaman: Recreates Copy Robot's AI. Although, I suppose that would only technically make him a Mega Man Assist Trophy...
  • :ultkingdedede: Does his Kirby's Dreamland boss routine.
  • :ultbowserjr::ultlarry::ultroy2::ultwendy::ultiggy::ultmorton::ultlemmy::ultludwig: Do their New Super Mario Bros. style boss routines from Super Mario Maker.
 
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While we're on the topic of Assist Trophies, what characters from DLC series would you all like to see? Mine would be:

Piranha Plant: Dino Piranha
Persona: Aigis
Dragon Quest: Metal Slime (maybe it could run away from everyone (including the summoner, who can also attack it), and apply a major buff to whoever killed it)
Banjo-Kazooie: Gruntilda Winkybunion (where she says a rhyme about a random fighter)
Fatal Fury: Blue Mary
Fire Emblem Three Houses: Rhea
ARMS: Twintelle
Minecraft: Enderman (the version with the long limbs, to differentiate it from the playable version)
Final Fantasy: Squall Leonhart
Xenoblade: Poppi (all three versions)
 
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