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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

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While we're on the topic of Assist Trophies, what characters from DLC series would you all like to see? Mine would be:

Piranha Plant: Dino Piranha
Persona: Aigis
Dragon Quest: Metal Slime (maybe it could run away from everyone (including the summoner, who can also attack it), and apply a major buff to whoever killed it)
Banjo-Kazooie: Gruntilda Winkybunion (where she says a rhyme about a random fighter)
Fatal Fury: Blue Mary
Fire Emblem Three Houses: Rhea
ARMS: Twintelle
Minecraft: Enderman (the version with the long limbs, to differentiate it from the playable version)
Final Fantasy: Squall Leonhart
Xenoblade: Poppi (all three versions)
Persona: Aigis or Queen
DQ: Jessica Albert
Banjo-Kazooie: Gruntilda
Fatal Fury: Geese Howard
Fire Emblem Three Houses: Gatekeeper (basically a more wholesome Mr. Resetti)
ARMS: Twintelle or Helix
Minecraft: uhhhhhhhhh idk
Final Fantasy: if from VII, Aerith. If not, a Chocobo
Xenoblade: if from 2, Zeke who OHKO’s you for handling a man’s turtle! If not from 2, Lin Lee Koo or Lao Huang cause hecc u I need X representation SOMEHOW
 

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While we're on the topic of Assist Trophies, what characters from DLC series would you all like to see? Mine would be:

Piranha Plant: Dino Piranha
Persona: Aigis
Dragon Quest: Metal Slime (maybe it could run away from everyone (including the summoner, who can also attack it), and apply a major buff to whoever killed it)
Banjo-Kazooie: Gruntilda Winkybunion (where she says a rhyme about a random fighter)
Fatal Fury: Blue Mary
Fire Emblem Three Houses: Rhea
ARMS: Twintelle
Minecraft: Enderman (the version with the long limbs, to differentiate it from the playable version)
Final Fantasy: Squall Leonhart
Xenoblade: Poppi (all three versions)
Persona - If SMT doesn't get a rep, Jack Frost
Dragon Quest - Dragonlord, A summoner type deal
Banjo - Mumbo, pretty much a reskin or Riki
Fatal Fury - Iori or if this is SNK then SV-001 from Metal Slug
Three Houses - Kronya
ARMS - Ninjara
Minecraft - Pillager Raid
Final Fantasy - Y'shtola
Xenoblade - Melia
 

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While we're on the topic of Assist Trophies, what characters from DLC series would you all like to see? Mine would be:

Piranha Plant: Dino Piranha
Persona: Aigis
Dragon Quest: Metal Slime (maybe it could run away from everyone (including the summoner, who can also attack it), and apply a major buff to whoever killed it)
Banjo-Kazooie: Gruntilda Winkybunion (where she says a rhyme about a random fighter)
Fatal Fury: Blue Mary
Fire Emblem Three Houses: Rhea
ARMS: Twintelle
Minecraft: Enderman (the version with the long limbs, to differentiate it from the playable version)
Final Fantasy: Squall Leonhart
Xenoblade: Poppi (all three versions)
:ultpiranha: Either Kamek, Rawk Hawk, or Dimentio
:ultjoker: nobody
:ulthero: Slime Knight
:ultbanjokazooie: Gruntilda
:ult_terry: Kyo
:ultbyleth: nobody
:ultminmin Lola Pop
:ultsteve: Drowned have tridents so they have the best potential moveset
:ultsephiroth: Lilty
:ultpyra::ultmythra: nobody
Edit: I thought this was meant to be playable characters. Still I'd like them as ATs rather than nothing.
 
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:ultpiranha: Either Kamek, Rawk Hawk, or Dimentio
:ultjoker: nobody
:ulthero: Slime Knight
:ultbanjokazooie: Gruntilda
:ult_terry: Kyo
:ultbyleth: nobody
:ultminmin Lola Pop
:ultsteve: Drowned have tridents so they have the best potential moveset
:ultsephiroth: Lilty
:ultpyra::ultmythra: nobody
What’s a Lilty? I haven’t played the MMO FFs, is it from that?
 

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While we're on the topic of Assist Trophies, what characters from DLC series would you all like to see? Mine would be:

Piranha Plant: Dino Piranha
Persona: Aigis
Dragon Quest: Metal Slime (maybe it could run away from everyone (including the summoner, who can also attack it), and apply a major buff to whoever killed it)
Banjo-Kazooie: Gruntilda Winkybunion (where she says a rhyme about a random fighter)
Fatal Fury: Blue Mary
Fire Emblem Three Houses: Rhea
ARMS: Twintelle
Minecraft: Enderman (the version with the long limbs, to differentiate it from the playable version)
Final Fantasy: Squall Leonhart
Xenoblade: Poppi (all three versions)
Dragon Quest: Jade (DQ11)
Banjo: Gruntilda
Fatal Fury: Lori Yagami
ARMS: Max Brass
Minecraft: Ender Dragon or Wither
Final Fantasy: Terra Branford
Xenoblade 2: Zekenator

No idea on Persona or FE.
 

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Assists for each DLC series? I’m down.
:ultjoker:: Jack Frost or Nyarlathotep for SMT representation.
:ulthero3:: A Slime that shape shifts through multiple different forms.
:ultbanjokazooie:: Gruntilda seems too easy of a choice.
:ult_terry:: Geese Howard, it is mandatory he spams special moves and is cheap as all hell.
:ultbylethf:: Don’t know anything about 3 Houses so how about Hector as the Assist instead?
:ultminmin: Dr Coyle or Max Brass because they’re cool.
:ultsephiroth:: Barret or Tifa would be sick to have. I can’t choose which I’d want more.
:ultsteve:: Creeper. Just walks up and Kabooms on people. The memes there would be really funny.
:ultpyra:: Rex, so he can get every role but fighter.

I’d love it if a new assist was unveiled with each new Challenger, that be a cherry on top of each cool addition.
 

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:ultpyra:: Rex, so he can get every role but fighter.

I’d love it if a new assist was unveiled with each new Challenger, that be a cherry on top of each cool addition.
damn, Rex about to be the new Spring Man huh :4pacman:

but yeah, revealing a new assist with each fighter would be cool too
 

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While we're on the topic of Assist Trophies, what characters from DLC series would you all like to see? Mine would be:

Piranha Plant: Dino Piranha
Persona: Aigis
Dragon Quest: Metal Slime (maybe it could run away from everyone (including the summoner, who can also attack it), and apply a major buff to whoever killed it)
Banjo-Kazooie: Gruntilda Winkybunion (where she says a rhyme about a random fighter)
Fatal Fury: Blue Mary
Fire Emblem Three Houses: Rhea
ARMS: Twintelle
Minecraft: Enderman (the version with the long limbs, to differentiate it from the playable version)
Final Fantasy: Squall Leonhart
Xenoblade: Poppi (all three versions)
:ultjoker:Futaba: flies around in her Necronomicon, giving the summoner random buffs and stunning enemies with lights
:ultbanjokazooie: Mumbo Jumbo: cast a spell that either makes the summoner grow or enemies smaller
:ult_terry: Kula: attacks with ice
:ultminmin HeadLok: attaches to summoner and attacks enemies automatically
:ultsteve: Creeper: goes boom
 

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NGL, it would be nice to have Jin in smash, but Heihachi costume returned with Min Min, so i find very unlikely to see a Tekken character happening.

It would also be a great opportunity to have the three most famous japanese fighting game franchise characters reunited as playable characters: Street Fighter, KOF and Tekken.
 

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NGL, it would be nice to have Jin in smash, but Heihachi costume returned with Min Min, so i find very unlikely to see a Tekken character happening.

It would also be a great opportunity to have the three most famous japanese fighting game franchise characters reunited as playable characters: Street Fighter, KOF and Tekken.
I recently got into Tekken so I would be down for a Tekken character, as unlikely as it is looking right now. But it would be interesting to see how they would translate Tekken's mechanic's into Smash and Tekken's soundtrack is an absolute banger. For those who are uninitiated, just hear this:


Also when you said Jin, I thought you meant Jin from Xenoblade 2. I was like, that would be a random choice but it would be neat.
 

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Well off Topic, but there are 2 things I'm wondering about when it comes to the End of Fighter Pass 2?

How will balance changes be affected?

Once Pass 2 is done, and development on Smash Ultimate is planned to end, I do wonder how they thinking of balancing things out. Besides the DLC Characters themselves, we are getting Balance changes to the Older DLC/Base game characters, and I wonder they are planning to end things off on that front

Do they already have a list of the total changes they want to make to every character before Development ends, and they are currently working on balancing the older characters along with the Future DLC? I'm also sure they may have a Last minute division in the case that the Next 2 DLC are considered overpowered. I don't think they want to leave Ultimate in the same state as Smash 4 with Bayonetta


Will Both Characters be revealed in One presentation, or TWO Separate presentations?

I think there are arguments for both sides of the Coin, but I might lean toward both characters being Revealed in whatever the next Presentation is, with just that one of them will release that same day or week, and having their Sakurai presents also present there

Revealing them separately goes along with the precedent that's been set by this Pass 2, as all of the characters have been revealed one at a time. They've also usually been revealed in close proximity to their release, with the Exception of the ARMS character, but we didn't know who exactly it was for that time

There's also the case that it may keep Smash in the gaming conversation for a little longer, which makes sure that Smash is one people's minds, which I think will start to die down once we know who Both of the last fighters are. It also makes sure Attention is on One character at a time, So that one character isn't overtaking the other in Spotlight. Of course they did have Hero and Banjo revealed at the same time as well though, and we knew of Terry on the same day as Banjo's release. Though Terry wasn't the last character, and Extra DLC was revealed in that same presentation, so that's how these cases differ from Fighter Pass 2

I lean towards both being revealed though in the Same presentation for these reasons though

-Nintendo might want to be able to Show the Full fighter Pass 2 in front of the audience watching their Presentation. Especially if this is around the time of E3, and when all the gaming publishers are doing their own Presentations, if they still want to try to sell the pass up to this point, then showing Exactly All of the fighters it comes with will be important in getting more people on board at this point

Keeping the fighters a mystery, and trying to show off their big gun characters the earliest point does help get earlier sales of Fighter Pass 2. however this late into the game, I think it may be more beneficial to reveal all the fighters, since I assume the people that still are waiting to get Fighter Pass 2 is waiting exactly for all the fighters to be revealed, as they are apprehensive into buying in until they know exactly what they are buying

-June is the 3rd year anniversary of Ultimate's reveal. I think it may be good to do the 2nd version of the Everyone is here, which showcases all of the DLC Fighters that were released for Smash Ultimate.

-It's likely that at least one of these characters will be very grounded compared to the characters we've gotten in Pass 2 like Steve and Sephiroth. this doesn't mean the character has to be disappointing or unexciting, but that they may not be the biggest character in the world. If the other character is someone bigger that could match up to the level of Steve and Sephiroth, then revealing Both will allow the more grounded character to rise up, especially if this character would be the last one

-They do try to line up character reveals with the presentations that Nintendo puts out. Byleth, Min Min, and Steve were revealed in their own presentation, however in these cases, there's also been speculation that all 3 were delayed for certain reasons, and that they could have been shown off at bigger presentations (Game Awards for Byleth, E3 for Min Min and Steve)

They could save CP11 reveal for the Fall presentation, but I'm not sure about that. the time between releases have been quite short. More important though, Development is winding down. Since Nintendo is paying the Smash Dev team, I do Imagine that they may want to be done with Smash when the dev team is largely down with Smash, including releasing the characters and such, and I do think at the rate we are going, we might hit that point before Fall
 

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Persona: Aigis or Queen
DQ: Jessica Albert
Banjo-Kazooie: Gruntilda
Fatal Fury: Geese Howard
Fire Emblem Three Houses: Gatekeeper (basically a more wholesome Mr. Resetti)
ARMS: Twintelle or Helix
Minecraft: uhhhhhhhhh idk
Final Fantasy: if from VII, Aerith. If not, a Chocobo
Xenoblade: if from 2, Zeke who OHKO’s you for handling a man’s turtle! If not from 2, Lin Lee Koo or Lao Huang cause hecc u I need X representation SOMEHOW
Persona: Never played but I would assume Makoto maybe?
DQ: King Slime
Banjo-Kazooie: Mumbo Jumbo (transforms an opponent into a weaker form)
Fatal Fury: Geese Howard
Fire Emblem Three Houses: IDK honestly
ARMS: Helix simply with his stretchy abilities
Minecraft: Mob Spawner with Creepers, Skeletons and Spiders
Final Fantasy: Gilgamesh
Xenoblade: IDK man I don't really like JRPGs lol
 
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I think Monster Hunter is still possible and makes a ****load of sense. Maybe they decided to release the MH and Arthur costumes alongside Pyra/Mythra only to coincide with the G&G release on the switch as Sakurai stated, and it would also confuse the smash community to think that a MH/Capcom character is out of possibility.
 

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I think Monster Hunter is still possible and makes a ****load of sense. Maybe they decided to release the MH and Arthur costumes alongside Pyra/Mythra only to coincide with the G&G release on the switch as Sakurai stated, and it would also confuse the smash community to think that a MH/Capcom character is out of possibility.
I highly doubt they dropped a mii outfit of a character to NOT coincide with the full release a full fledged character pack, just so they can pull a gotcha on a tiny subsect of the community. Honestly, this reasoning is just as flawed as Geno's mii outfit still showing he has a chance.
 

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I think Monster Hunter is still possible and makes a ****load of sense. Maybe they decided to release the MH and Arthur costumes alongside Pyra/Mythra only to coincide with the G&G release on the switch as Sakurai stated, and it would also confuse the smash community to think that a MH/Capcom character is out of possibility.
So if not the Monster Hunter itself (like what Marvel vs. Capcom did), who would be the rep for MH? The Monster Hunter costumes don't mean we can't get a playable MonHun rep; it just likely can't be the Hunter itself.
 

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While we're on the topic of Assist Trophies, what characters from DLC series would you all like to see? Mine would be:

Piranha Plant: Dino Piranha
Persona: Aigis
Dragon Quest: Metal Slime (maybe it could run away from everyone (including the summoner, who can also attack it), and apply a major buff to whoever killed it)
Banjo-Kazooie: Gruntilda Winkybunion (where she says a rhyme about a random fighter)
Fatal Fury: Blue Mary
Fire Emblem Three Houses: Rhea
ARMS: Twintelle
Minecraft: Enderman (the version with the long limbs, to differentiate it from the playable version)
Final Fantasy: Squall Leonhart
Xenoblade: Poppi (all three versions)
Mario: Fawful
Persona: Tatsuya Suou
Dragon Quest: Slime
Banjo-Kazooie: Mumbo
Fatal Fury: Rock Howard
Fire Emblem: Anna
Arms: Helix
Minecraft: Creative Player
Final Fantasy: Kefka
Xenoblade: Elma
 

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So if not the Monster Hunter itself (like what Marvel vs. Capcom did), who would be the rep for MH? The Monster Hunter costumes don't mean we can't get a playable MonHun rep; it just likely can't be the Hunter itself.
First off, I'm Pretty sure that "Capcom didn't want Hunter as a playable character" thing Woefully outdated

Second, Why would they add a completely new Monster Hunter costume (A hat that is of a Felyne) outside of a Monster Hunter presentation

I'm confident that Monster Hunter is down for the count for this round of DLC.
 
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Second, Why would they add a completely new Monster Hunter costume (A hat that is of a Felyne) outside of a Monster Hunter presentation
I don't know, maybe that was done as a subversion so MonHun fighter can catch people by surprise; either that, or there'll be even more MonHun costumes? Just a theory.
 

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I think Monster Hunter is still possible and makes a ****load of sense. Maybe they decided to release the MH and Arthur costumes alongside Pyra/Mythra only to coincide with the G&G release on the switch as Sakurai stated, and it would also confuse the smash community to think that a MH/Capcom character is out of possibility.
I know you've already been bombarded with other responses, but there has been a thought process stuck in my head for a while but there was no good opportunity for me to share it until now.

Basically, why wouldn't they just make Monster Hunter CP9 if they were coming? It's been almost a full month since Pythra came out and there has been no official announcement regarding the future of the series so we know that there was no need to announce Pythra now. So it's not like they had to prioritize one shill pick over the other. This makes me think Monster Hunter is dead in the water, as much as it hurts me to say.
 

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The assist trophy that I would want for each dlc:
Persona: Yusuke and Goemon: Yusuke attack with his katana and Goemon use spells for long range attacks
Dragon quest: Slime: Stick to an opponent and slows him
Banjo-Kaoozie: Mumbo Jumbo: Turn the summoner big and the opponents small
Fatal fury: Andy Bogard: Attack the opponent at close range
Fire emblem: Medeus: Transforms into a dragon and spits fire
Arms: Ninjara: Similar to spring man
Minecraft: Wolf: If someone attacks it, it will summon other wolves and attack this fighter
Final fantasy: Barett Wallace: Shoot opponent with his canon gun
Xenoblade: Poppi: Fly around and shoots missile
 

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Kinda random and not really definitive but the official account of Playstation tweeted this a few hours ago:


Sharing this because it might be kinda useful for reference when it comes to Resident Evil discussion, even if it's not going to happen in Ultimate.

If you don't have Twitter or you don't want to log in to participate in the poll, the results as of now are:

1. Leon (47,8%)
2. Jill (27,1%)
3. Chris (14,1%)
4. Claire (11,1%)

44,000 votes so far.
 

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Kinda random and not really definitive but the official account of Playstation tweeted this a few hours ago:



Sharing this because it might be kinda useful for reference when it comes to Resident Evil discussion, even if it's not going to happen in Ultimate.

If you don't have Twitter or you don't want to log in to participate in the poll, the results as of now are:

1. Leon (47,8%)
2. Jill (27,1%)
3. Chris (14,1%)
4. Claire (11,1%)

44,000 votes so far.
Where's the Tofu option?
 

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The logic for Monster Hunter still having a chance at getting a character means Super Mario RPG does, too.

Mallow is coming, babee!
CacoMallow 2: Monster's Hearts May Cry "RPG DOOM" And Knuckles Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series. :4pacman:

Kinda random and not really definitive but the official account of Playstation tweeted this a few hours ago:

Sharing this because it might be kinda useful for reference when it comes to Resident Evil discussion, even if it's not going to happen in Ultimate.

If you don't have Twitter or you don't want to log in to participate in the poll, the results as of now are:

1. Leon (47,8%)
2. Jill (27,1%)
3. Chris (14,1%)
4. Claire (11,1%)

44,000 votes so far.
Not too surprised that Leon's leading - although I'm really surprised by how much he's leading. Then again, being the star of RE 4 and probably one of the most well-developed characters help a lot.
 
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