Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

Dude if the Nintendo Switch could handle 86 different characters and 116 stages, just think what could be possible with future smash games on better hardware.

That would be Bombastic!

 

[Firox]

Imagine if the concept of "deeper gameplay vs. roster size" happens again with Smash...

...but now it's those who WANT deeper gameplay telling fans of the bigger roster that they're stuck in the past and need to move to the new game.

This would assume that Sakurai ever decides to essentially resurrect the Melee mechanics into a newer game, but yes, the irony wasn't lost on me.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Dude if the Nintendo Switch could handle 86 different characters and 116 stages, just think what could be possible with future smash games on better hardware.

The amount of characters had nothing to do with how many fighters the hardware can store. It has to do with them having fighter models that were up to par with the hardware's standards already. Stronger hardware means more time has to be spent (re)modeling fighters, in fact, taking away resources from a potentially bigger roster.

 

[Stratos]

Wait what

I write that I would like someone else to continue the Super Smash Bros. series if not Masahiro Sakurai anymore.

 

[Warumian]

Or it Can't be Miyamoto, since he has over 65 years old and I don't know that he can handle this series.

Miyamoto will wipe out the entire roster and replace it with toads.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I remember when I was told I was crazy (and stupid) for believing they would keep all of Wii U.

That said…there are too many variables to suggest how the next Smash would end up at this point. We don’t even know if Sakurai will be returning to direct the game, or what the future of the game looks like. I personally feel this is probably what he considers his magnum opus; an absolutely amazing crossover due the sheer amount of capital involved.

Now, could it happen again? Nothing is impossible, so sure. But that assumes much about each of the many non-Nintendo characters or properties that would need to be obtained.

I may not truly move into the next Smash game, but that’s ok. I’ll (hopefully) get all the amiibo (seriously, Sora better get one!) and hopefully figure out a good way to print the Everyone is Here poster, and I can celebrate this game. It basically brings together MANY of my interests in gaming so I am living my best life.

 

[Ivander]

The guy who will Continue should be someone from Nintendo.
It can't be Doug Bowser, since he could turn Smash 6 into Cash Grab game.
Or it Can't be Miyamoto, since he has over 65 years old and I don't know that he can handle this series.
I think I can be someone from Bandai Namco, like President of Bandai Namco or someone from Nintendo again.

How about the someone be a person that Sakurai chooses or gives his blessings to?

 

[Guynamednelson]

I remember when I was told I was crazy (and stupid) for believing they would keep all of Wii U.

Eh, a bunch of us believed they'd just do Wii U Deluxe anyway, you were never crazy/stupid for that.

 

[ZelDan]

I remember when I was told I was crazy (and stupid) for believing they would keep all of Wii U.

That said…there are too many variables to suggest how the next Smash would end up at this point. We don’t even know if Sakurai will be returning to direct the game, or what the future of the game looks like. I personally feel this is probably what he considers his magnum opus; an absolutely amazing crossover due the sheer amount of capital involved.

Now, could it happen again? Nothing is impossible, so sure. But that assumes much about each of the many non-Nintendo characters or properties that would need to be obtained.

I may not truly move into the next Smash game, but that’s ok. I’ll (hopefully) get all the amiibo (seriously, Sora better get one!) and hopefully figure out a good way to print the Everyone is Here poster, and I can celebrate this game. It basically brings together MANY of my interests in gaming so I am living my best life.

To be fair they didn't keep ALL of Smash Wii U in Ultimate (R.I.P Woolly World stage and that crazy as hell Star Fox stage. Maybe some others I'm forgetting...)

 

[Guynamednelson]

To be fair they didn't keep ALL of Smash Wii U in Ultimate (R.I.P Woolly World stage and that crazy as hell Star Fox stage. Maybe some others I'm forgetting...)

The DKC Returns stage, and Miiverse for obvious reasons.

 

[Dukefire]

So, what indie characters may have a chance in the next game? I can say that some indie characters might not return depending on conditions from their creator and the internet itself.

 

[ZelDan]

So, what indie characters may have a chance in the next game? I can say that some indie characters might not return depending on conditions from their creator and the internet itself.

Shovel Knight, Shantae, and Sans kinda seem like the biggest 3 to me.

Cuphead would definitely be up there too.

 

[PeridotGX]

The one good thing about Ultimate being the last massive Smash is that it won’t feel like a waste of time modding the game only to feel obsoleted by the next one. With how much content we already have, I think Ultimate is probably the best base for modding a Smash game we’re ever going to get.

I can't see Ultimate modding taking over Brawl modding modding for a few reasons. Number One: Brawl has a decade head start. There are already a ton of really well made Brawl mods, and a significant chunk of the Ultimate cast has been backported. Number 2: It's a lot easier to mod Brawl. I wouldn't want to mess with my main switch, so my options for modding Ultimate are to buy another or to Emulate. The former is too expensive, the latter is too intensive to run on my PC. On the other hand, Pre-owned Wiis and Wii Us are much less expensive (and there are more of them, though not for long) and Dolphin is much less intensive. I think Ultimate modding will be a thing, but it won't dethrone brawl.

 

[Stratos]

For Super Smash Bros. 6 must come out a new Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot. Although I do not think I need to say or write that.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

For Super Smash Bros. 6 must come out a new Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot. Although I do not think I need to say or write that.

The ballot would be the samelike in SSB4, but better.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Eh, a bunch of us believed they'd just do Wii U Deluxe anyway, you were never crazy/stupid for that.

I appreciate this, lol. However, I quite distinctly remember it. There were some folks who just didn’t understand, or said, “Nintendo doesn’t have the money to pay everybody.” “I can’t believe you would think something so ridiculous!” Etc, etc…

But here we are.

 

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Ah you used the American Dragon on me!

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Yes I don't think roster cuts would be well received at all, I don't see it happening anymore

How though? The 3rd parties would require licencing issues and just think how hard it probably was to get Sora.

 

[osby]

The ballot would be the samelike in SSB4, but better.

Better in how?

The only improvement I can think of is preventing people from voting multiple times.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

Better in how?

The only improvement I can think of is preventing people from voting multiple times.

Yes. And you can also vote for Assist Trophy to join the Smash 6.
Since in Future, we're gonna also have Tourney competitive matches with Assists allowed.

 

[Gengar84]

I can't see Ultimate modding taking over Brawl modding modding for a few reasons. Number One: Brawl has a decade head start. There are already a ton of really well made Brawl mods, and a significant chunk of the Ultimate cast has been backported. Number 2: It's a lot easier to mod Brawl. I wouldn't want to mess with my main switch, so my options for modding Ultimate are to buy another or to Emulate. The former is too expensive, the latter is too intensive to run on my PC. On the other hand, Pre-owned Wiis and Wii Us are much less expensive (and there are more of them, though not for long) and Dolphin is much less intensive. I think Ultimate modding will be a thing, but it won't dethrone brawl.

That’s probably true but Ultimate has a lot of potential that Brawl lacked. Most importantly, one slot voice mods. It always felt weird in Brawl that most mods didn’t have their proper voice. I did really enjoy making Brawl mods back in the day and actually managed to become one of the most downloaded modders (under the name Aafyre) but I’m more interested in Ultimate’s potential as far as the future is concerned.

 

[Dukefire]

Now, which assist trophy characters may have a shot in the next future Smash Bros game?

 

[Theguy123]

With sora being announced I just literally realised that 2 of my theories came true that I haven’t mentioned on here.

the last fighter was a 2000’s rep so I was right about that. I remember saying last Month that we had 2 1900-1999 reps in the pass, 2 2010-2020 reps in the pass and only 1 2000-2009 rep in this pass so we were probably ending the pass on a 2000s rep

and then the other thing I was right about was us ending on a character with a sad theme playing.

I remember saying as well last month that min min starts with cheery music and pyra&mythra are the middle character who have that “we’re nearly there” vibe music so the last character was most likely gonna have a sad theme playing meaning it was gonna be a character who’s associated with sad music which was right as we got sora.

I’m glad 2 of my out there theories came true.

 

[N3ON]

Just brace yourselves that if there was another ballot you'd have to contend with the twisted reality of this dude being first place

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

Now, which assist trophy characters may have a shot in the next future Smash Bros game?

Umm, Space Invaders, Nia, Edelgard, Alien Hominid, Commander from X/Space Tank and Space Harrier?

 

[ARandomZoomer]

I can get disliking cuts but honestly but like a port with only a handful of newcomers? Like spare me the game and just give me the fighters as dlc at that point.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Just brace yourselves that if there was another ballot you'd have to contend with the twisted reality of this dude being first place

And Goku because apparently in the eyes of many he's an exceptional case as a 4th party.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

With sora being announced I just literally realised that 2 of my theories came true that I haven’t mentioned on here.

the last fighter was a 2000’s rep so I was right about that. I remember saying last Month that we had 2 1900-1999 reps in the pass, 2 2010-2020 reps in the pass and only 1 2000-2009 rep in this pass so we were probably ending the pass on a 2000s rep

and then the other thing I was right about was us ending on a character with a sad theme playing.

I remember saying as well last month that min min starts with cheery music and pyra&mythra are the middle character who have that “we’re nearly there” vibe music so the last character was most likely gonna have a sad theme playing meaning it was gonna be a character who’s associated with sad music which was right as we got sora.

I’m glad 2 of my out there theories came true.

I feel like they count Steve as a 2010s rep as well, at least in All-Star mode they do. Even though Minecraft was already popular in 2009 so idk about that. But if we take it at face value, in that sense Sora is the only 2000s rep in either of the passes. Repping our PS2 childhoods.

 

[Eldrake]

Just brace yourselves that if there was another ballot you'd have to contend with the twisted reality of this dude being first place

Now you just made me imagine Sora's trailer but with Waluigi and his hat in place of Sora and the keyblade.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Cmon everyone - no roster cuts? Do we really want a game with a character select screen of over 120 characters?

Seems low.

Tell Cyndane that this thread should be called SMASH 6 SPECULATION THREAD.

I think this thread should be closed, and we get a new SMASH 6 SPECULATION THREAD.

 

[FreeFox]

I get that this is the unprecedented "there's no topping this" game and that it's natural to only want them to build off it going forward.

But the game isn't going anywhere. If/when a new game releases, you'll still be able to play Ultimate. In fact we may be doing so for a lot longer than ever before if Sakurai really takes his long deserved break from the series. And unlike prior ones, we really do have "everything up until this point" in this game.

Going back to play Melee/Brawl/Smash 4 even always felt bittersweet when you knew the content wouldn't all be there as it was in the others, but this game literally has everything, it's not just gonna be forgotten the instance a potential new one (assuming it has a new direction, which of course it would) comes into existence.

Except in the tournament scene. I expect cancelled tournaments to happen for this game just like with the rest. A realshame considering the exceptional roster this one has.

 

[N3ON]

Now you just made me imagine Sora's trailer but with Waluigi and his hat in place of Sora and the keyblade.

I would love if when the characters turn to see who emerges from the gate, and it's Waluigi, they just react with disgust and disappointment. Other than Wario, who is elated. That'd be an amazing trailer.

 

[Dinoman96]

If they ever did another ballot, I'd assume these characters would probably have a massive glow up in comparison to the last one

• Waluigi
• Master Chief
• Crash Bandicoot
• Geno
• Dante
• Doom Slayer
• Undertale/Deltarune thing

 

[FreeFox]

If they ever did another ballot, I'd assume these characters would probably have a massive glow up in comparison to the last one

• Waluigi
• Master Chief
• Crash Bandicoot
• Geno
• Dante
• Doom Slayer
• Undertale/Deltarune thing

No Isaac? Truly a shame.

 

[N3ON]

If they ever did another ballot, I'd assume these characters would probably have a massive glow up in comparison to the last one

• Waluigi
• Master Chief
• Crash Bandicoot
• Geno
• Dante
• Doom Slayer
• Undertale/Deltarune thing

Yeah, none of those characters probably did that well on the first ballot, even Geno (who was in a popularity lull) or Waluigi (who had been AT'd).

No Isaac? Truly a shame.

Unlike those characters, Isaac presumably did quite well on the first, so even if he can just maintain that, he'd be in a good place.

 

[3BitSaurus]

You know one thing I hate about Sora being last?

We can't complete the Sephiroth Challenge with his KHII costume now.

I mean, I know I can just play a match agains the CPU... but come on, it's about the boss fight experience.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Umm, Space Invaders, Nia, Edelgard, Alien Hominid, Commander from X/Space Tank and Space Harrier?

None of those are assist trophies

unless you meant ATs you want next game?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I think the new Big 3 are Crash, Geno, and Waluigi.

 

[Shroob]

You know one thing I hate about Sora being last?

We can't complete the Sephiroth Challenge with his KHII costume now.

I mean, I know I can just play a match agains the CPU... but come on, it's about the boss fight experience.

Isn't the Sephiroth challenge a date thing? Or was it exclusive to a specific patch? I know some people have found a way to replay it but it may involve hacking.

 

[N3ON]

I think the new Big 3 are Crash, Geno, and Waluigi.

Maybe, but I think it's too early to determine how things are going to fall into place once the dust settles and all characters are considered eligible again.

It's also a fairly unimportant phase for popularity right now, fwiw.