Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[metalhydra273]

Late to look back on the topic but still relevant since it's the first day. With the new year for 2021, here's some notable anniversaries to look out for both in general and for speculation use if you'd like (not everything is going to be here but I made sure to pick out a lot):
1981:
Donkey Kong
Galaga
Frogger

1986:
The Legend of Zelda
Dragon Quest
Metroid
Kid Icarus
Alex Kidd in Miracle World

1991:
Street Fighter 2
Sonic the Hedgehog
F-Zero
Puyo Puyo
Civilization

1996:
Pokemon
Resident Evil
Quake
NIGHTS
Crash Bandicoot
Tomb Raider

2001:
Animal Crossing
Pikmin
Golden Sun
Devil May Cry
Monkey Ball
Ace Attorney
Halo
Luigi's Mansion

2006:
Okami
Saint's Row
Just Cause
Gears of War

2011:
Skyrim
Dark Souls
Minecraft

2016:
Overwatch

 

[Wunderwaft]

An assist promotion would be a welcome surprise in my book. If I had to pick five that I want to see become playable they would be:

• Waluigi
• Ashley
• Lyn
• Alucard
• Zero

 

[SNEKeater]

My assist promotions. Anime swordfighter fans REJOICE:

• Alucard
• Isaac
• Zero
• Lyn

For the last spot I'm not 100% sure who I'd pick. Waluigi, Bomberman, Ashley, Mimikyu, Shovel Knight... I'd be cool with any of them.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

For a serious answer on Assist Trophies, my favorites are:

• nintendog
• Shovel Knight
• Sukapon
• Spring Man
• Riki

Though the best actual editions would likely be:

1. Waluigi (widely popular in general)
2. Zero (incredibly popular, and appeals to a different group of people despite hailing from an existing series)
3. Shadow (insanely popular pick for a Sonic the Hedgehog character, which has moderate to high demand)
4. Alucard (good enough of a pick to be a contender for the only Castlevania slot)
5. Skull Kid (seems to have the most reverence of the one-offs)

Honorable mention goes to Spring Man, who alongside Ribbon Girl and Ninjara are good candidates for clones of Min Min since they can differ from her greatly without that great of a work load. They're just not really a hot commodity.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Simon Belmont.

Follow-up question: Who would your Ballot vote be NOW?

Mine: Ryu Hayabusa

Considering he's not in, still it'd be Brain. If only one, anyway.

If more, then you can add in Shadow, Dixie Kong, Isaac, Urshifu, Genesect, Deoxys...

I only voted for one last time, not that it'd mean much. Either way I'd have only voted for other characters by that point, heh.

 

[Cosmic77]

Waluigi, Midna, Spring Man, and — if we include Pokéballs — Zoroark are the only upgrades I'd really want.

There's a few others I wouldn't have an issue with if they became playable, but I'm more content with them staying ATs.

 

[PK-remling Fire]

We're doing assist promotions? Here are the ones I like most (though not very realistic):

• Alucard (best shot for an assist promotion in the next game imo, has a fun and varied moveset)
• Tiki (playing as a big dragon would be fun, though not balanced)
• Shadow (wanted him in since Sonic)
• Midna (A small grappler would be fun, plus could ride Wolf Link)
• Rathalos (same reason as Tiki, also a big MonHun fan)

And as a bonus, here's five Pokemon I'd promote:

• Scizor (this guy is built for fighting games)
• Abomasnow (one of my personal favorites)
• Deoxys (form change would be pretty busted as a character, but fun)
• Ditto (could take moves from other fighters)
• Bewear (would be a funny addition but still be a powerhouse)

 

[FJA147]

What assist trophies I would want promoted
Waluigi
Zero
Shadow
Alucard
Sukanpo- it would be a funny and fun character to play.
Characters
Jonsey
Master Chief
A Kirby rep, Zelda rep, F-Zero rep because they all deserve one
Dr. Eggman
Modes
All-star mode
Smash run
A boss rush
And also rollback netcode
Also 50 more tracks from each series that does not have 50 tracks already.

 

[Perkilator]

Get ready for so much bias I end up wanting to replace some characters

My Assist Promotions (including those absent as of Ultimate)

• Shadow
• Tiki (replacing )
• Excitebiker
• Hammer Bro (replacing )
• Riki

My Poke Ball Promotions

• Meowth (replacing )
• Scizor (replacing )
• Snivy (replacing )
• Genesect
• Mimikyu (replacing )

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I just made The General Namco Thread for those who want to discuss more about a potential Namco rep:

The General Bandai-Namco Discussion Thread

HELLO EVERYONE! AND WELCOME TO THE GENERAL BANDAI-NAMCO DISCUSSION THREAD! Here we discuss the potential Bandai-Namco newcomer or newcomers and speculate about anything Bandai-Namco or anything relating to Bandai-Namco characters or games. WE GOT 3 RULES HERE: 1. Don't start a flame war...

smashboards.com

 

[Diddy Kong]

For some reason, i thought for sure she was a shoo-in back in Smash 4.

So did I... I knew they where gonna split up Zelda and Sheik, but never guessed they thought Sheik warranted her own spot. And thus they'd replace Sheik properly with Impa.

But yeah, I was wrong.

I still hope she will make it... One day.

 

[Sophitia]

I'm surprised at predictions with no Nintendo characters left. I think we'd get at least one more.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I'm surprised at predictions with no Nintendo characters left. I think we'd get at least one more.

I think if we are getting one more Nintendo rep in this game, it's going to be a Xenoblade rep.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I think if we are getting one more Nintendo rep in this game, it's going to be a Xenoblade rep.

Splatoon: "Am I a joke to you?"

and I say this as someone who wants Elma like hell, but I just really feel that Splatoon shouldn't be counted out...

Remember this Splatoon teaser image from January? “2020: Save Our Salmons”? With this being the final day of the year, this teaser never amounted to anything. I’m guessing whatever this was, it got delayed. Credit to @siliconera for the highlighted message. pic.twitter.com/CeMVm06Gty

— Chuggaaconroy (@chuggaaconroy) January 1, 2021

 

[shinhed-echi]

I'm surprised at predictions with no Nintendo characters left. I think we'd get at least one more.

I'm confident the pass will end with Pokemon.

Reason why specifically the last isn't because of Nintendo finishing the pass with a sizzle, but because it takes a good amount of negotiations to get one in the game.

With Mario and Fire Emblem character already DLC, I find it hard to believe TPC or Nintendo won't want to throw in a Pokemon in the mix.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I'm confident the pass will end with Pokemon.

Reason why specifically the last isn't because of Nintendo finishing the pass with a sizzle, but because it takes a good amount of negotiations to get one in the game.

With Mario and Fire Emblem character already DLC, I find it hard to believe TPC or Nintendo won't want to throw in a Pokemon in the mix.

It would be somewhat anti-climatic to end a Smash game off with a Pokemon most people don't want. But than again, Smash games have never ended with a big bang in terms of the final character in each game.

 

[PeridotGX]

I'm confident the pass will end with Pokemon.

Reason why specifically the last isn't because of Nintendo finishing the pass with a sizzle, but because it takes a good amount of negotiations to get one in the game.

With Mario and Fire Emblem character already DLC, I find it hard to believe TPC or Nintendo won't want to throw in a Pokemon in the mix.

Pokemon Day is in February. if there's a Pokemon in the pass, I wouldn't be surprised if they're revealed there (or a guess who is revealed)

 

[Diddy Kong]

Assist Trophies I would promote:

• Isaac
• Lyn
• Black Knight
• Riki
• Skull Kid
• Sukapon
• Takamaru

Pokeball Pokemon I would promote:

• Blastoise
• Scizor
• Bewear
• Mimikyu
• Alolan Raichu
• Deoxys
• Snorlax

-

 

[3BitSaurus]

Splatoon: "Am I a joke to you?"

and I say this as someone who wants Elma like hell, but I just really feel that Splatoon shouldn't be counted out...

Remember this Splatoon teaser image from January? “2020: Save Our Salmons”? With this being the final day of the year, this teaser never amounted to anything. I’m guessing whatever this was, it got delayed. Credit to @siliconera for the highlighted message. pic.twitter.com/CeMVm06Gty

— Chuggaaconroy (@chuggaaconroy) January 1, 2021

Oh, wow, I had no idea this was a thing.

Also, am I seeing things or is the lighting distorting the second "S" in a way that almost looks like a 3? As in "S03" or "Splatoon 03"?

Probably just my mind playing tricks on me, but the "Save Our Salmons" thing? Yeah, that's definitely not coincidental. "Salmons" looks particularly legible in the original image.

 

[Eldrake]

Late to look back on the topic but still relevant since it's the first day. With the new year for 2021, here's some notable anniversaries to look out for both in general and for speculation use if you'd like (not everything is going to be here but I made sure to pick out a lot):
1981:
Donkey Kong
Galaga
Frogger

1986:
The Legend of Zelda
Dragon Quest
Metroid
Kid Icarus
Alex Kidd in Miracle World

1991:
Street Fighter 2
Sonic the Hedgehog
F-Zero
Puyo Puyo
Civilization

1996:
Pokemon
Resident Evil
Quake
NIGHTS
Crash Bandicoot
Tomb Raider

2001:
Animal Crossing
Pikmin
Golden Sun
Devil May Cry
Monkey Ball
Ace Attorney
Halo
Luigi's Mansion

2006:
Okami
Saint's Row
Just Cause
Gears of War

2011:
Skyrim
Dark Souls
Minecraft

2016:
Overwatch

Metroid should definitely not be overlooked for this year's smash speculation, especially with the Metroid 5 rumors going around.

 

[Speed Weed]

Makes sense.
SEGA most famous output is their arcade stuff and Opa-Opa is the perfect rep for that outside of Ryo. A character that can rep everything including Space Harrier, Puyo Puyo, HOTD, Virtua Fighter, Altered Beast, Outrun, Shinobi, hell throw in some Master System stuff like Alex Kidd and Phantasy Star and it makes sense.

I bet Yuji Masubuchi (The Pacman Block Party arranger) would be down with doing a remix since he's already done so before.

You know what, I was joking with the original post but **** it you provided a solid case for Opa-Opa, let's make it an actual thing

 

[Twin Shot]

AT Upgrades: Shadow/Knuckles/Shovel Knight/Bomberman/Skull Kid

Pokémon Upgrades: Gardivior/Genesect

Additions:

• All missing Smash Stages
• All missing ATs (possibly Pokeball Pokémon)
• All missing Items
• Better Online
• Boss Rush w Missing Bosses
• Master Hand Playable in Local Smash
• 4 Pack of Echoes released shortly after FP2

Final FP2 Guesses:

• Hyubusa or Monster Hunter (March)
• Crash or Master Chief (E3)
• 1st Party: Zelda or Pokémon (Fall/winter)

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Splatoon: "Am I a joke to you?"

and I say this as someone who wants Elma like hell, but I just really feel that Splatoon shouldn't be counted out...

Remember this Splatoon teaser image from January? “2020: Save Our Salmons”? With this being the final day of the year, this teaser never amounted to anything. I’m guessing whatever this was, it got delayed. Credit to @siliconera for the highlighted message. pic.twitter.com/CeMVm06Gty

— Chuggaaconroy (@chuggaaconroy) January 1, 2021

It was not a teaser for a new game. The "SOS" was a tease to what was coming in 2020.

Late to look back on the topic but still relevant since it's the first day. With the new year for 2021, here's some notable anniversaries to look out for both in general and for speculation use if you'd like (not everything is going to be here but I made sure to pick out a lot):
1981:
Donkey Kong
Galaga
Frogger

1986:
The Legend of Zelda
Dragon Quest
Metroid
Kid Icarus
Alex Kidd in Miracle World

1991:
Street Fighter 2
Sonic the Hedgehog
F-Zero
Puyo Puyo
Civilization

1996:
Pokemon
Resident Evil
Quake
NIGHTS
Crash Bandicoot
Tomb Raider

2001:
Animal Crossing
Pikmin
Golden Sun
Devil May Cry
Monkey Ball
Ace Attorney
Halo
Luigi's Mansion

2006:
Okami
Saint's Row
Just Cause
Gears of War

2011:
Skyrim
Dark Souls
Minecraft

2016:
Overwatch

Puyo puyo did get a special game for it's 15th. 20th and 25th anniversary, so I'm expecting something this year too.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Pokemon Day is in February. if there's a Pokemon in the pass, I wouldn't be surprised if they're revealed there (or a guess who is revealed)

More likely to get a Pokemon Direct if anything tbh.

 

[dream1ng]

Splatoon: "Am I a joke to you?"

and I say this as someone who wants Elma like hell, but I just really feel that Splatoon shouldn't be counted out...

Remember this Splatoon teaser image from January? “2020: Save Our Salmons”? With this being the final day of the year, this teaser never amounted to anything. I’m guessing whatever this was, it got delayed. Credit to @siliconera for the highlighted message. pic.twitter.com/CeMVm06Gty

— Chuggaaconroy (@chuggaaconroy) January 1, 2021

Splatoon's issue is the cast. The only other character that seemingly lends itself towards playability (and is somewhat plausible) would probably be quite similar to Inkling.

It probably will get additional representation eventually because it's a very successful series - though perhaps only as a clone or when the series fleshes out its cast - but I doubt it's in the cards for DLC this time.

Plus, that upcoming Splatoon title has been rumored to be a spin-off, which generally aren't given as esteemed treatment in Smash.

 

[kaithehedgefox]

So when will the next DLC fighter be revealed?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So when will the next DLC fighter be revealed?

Most likely March.

 

[cashregister9]

So when will the next DLC fighter be revealed?

The general consensus is March, I'm thinking Anytime from Late Feb to Late April.

 

[dream1ng]

So when will the next DLC fighter be revealed?

Whenever Nintendo decides to have a proper Direct again.

Failing that, March.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

The fact we still do not have a Tetris stage makes me mad. Seriously, it makes too much sense.


Little late to this trend but...
AT promotions

• Alucard
• Takamaru
• Isaac
• Shadow
• Skull Kid

Pokeball promotions

• Meowth
• Eevee

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Had to make predictions regarding our last three reveals.

CP9: March
CP10: June/E3
CP11: September/October

 

[kaithehedgefox]

The general consensus is March, I'm thinking Anytime from Late Feb to Late April.

If the next DLC fighter is revealed in March 2021, will fighters pass 2 end with a double reveal at E3 2021, if E3 2021 isn't canceled?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

If the next DLC fighter is revealed in March 2021, will fighters pass 2 end with a double reveal at E3 2021, if E3 2021 isn't canceled?

I'm thinking no. I feel it'll be a single reveal and CP11 will be in September/October.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

Had to make predictions regarding our last three reveals.

CP9: March
CP10: June/E3
CP11: September

*Last three reveals of FP2. Sakurai's wording left him plenty of room for if they decide to do an FP3. Not saying it is set in stone, but there still are the placeholder slots in WOL that would still be vacant.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

*Last three reveals of FP2. Sakurai's wording left him plenty of room for if they decide to do an FP3. Not saying it is set in stone, but there still are the placeholder slots in WOL that would still be vacant.

I recently recall some of those slots being taken up by some costumes or something else.

 

[cothero]

I saw some people here speculating that Arthur (Ghost 'N Goblins) would be one of the most likely characters to be in FP2. That honestly makes me pretty happy. Not that i thing he'd have a better chance than other Capcom reps (Dante, for exemple), but he would be a cool Capcom rep (if we're going to get another Capcom rep at this point).

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I recently recall some of those slots being taken up by some costumes or something else.

I think those were different slots. There was like 31 slots for alts and stuff, I think that’s what you’re thinking of

the 15 from WoL are the ones that truly count

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Splatoon's issue is the cast. The only other character that seemingly lends itself towards playability (and is somewhat plausible) would probably be quite similar to Inkling.

It probably will get additional representation eventually because it's a very successful series - though perhaps only as a clone or when the series fleshes out its cast - but I doubt it's in the cards for DLC this time.

Plus, that upcoming Splatoon title has been rumored to be a spin-off, which generally aren't given as esteemed treatment in Smash.

I disagree that the cast is unfit for playability (I think Pearl and Marina are distinct enough in body-shape to be a unique take on the Icies/duo character archetype, unlike Squid Sisters) but yeah, the frontrunner being the ideal echo does block discussion on the series quite a bit.

 

[RileyXY1]

I think those were different slots. There was like 31 slots for alts and stuff, I think that’s what you’re thinking of

the 15 from WoL are the ones that truly count

Yes. Every fighter, even those with alts that change their names, only take up 1 WOL slot.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I think those were different slots. There was like 31 slots for alts and stuff, I think that’s what you’re thinking of

the 15 from WoL are the ones that truly count

If that's the case, best-case scenario I expect only Post-Pass 2 individual DLC or perhaps a few extra DLC Echos since they're not time-consuming and perhaps Sakurai felt giving us a little extra content is his thanks for us being fans.