Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[GilTheGreat19]

Y'all think they could randomly add spirits like the Lotus spirit again? I mean RANDOMLY

 

[perfectchaos83]

I mean sure, but OVER 50? I mean there ARE almost 30 Touhou games, so I guess that works out.
More music for us all to listen to at least.

Over 50 is child's play. You're talking about a series that has over 180 characters with a good 75/80% of them having their own theme (Some have 2 or 3 depending on the character) as well as over 90 stage themes (I'm low balling this number). The hard part with Touhou Music is actually limiting it to a reasonable amount of tracks, especially since a lot of them are awesome.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Interesting......

Nintendo Wants To Know If You Would Fork Out $50 For A New WarioWare Game https://t.co/1vaEgpbwlE #Nintendo #WarioWare #Wario pic.twitter.com/bRNrjKMecD

— Nintendo Life (@nintendolife) June 3, 2021

 

[Ivander]

Interesting......

Nintendo Wants To Know If You Would Fork Out $50 For A New WarioWare Game https://t.co/1vaEgpbwlE #Nintendo #WarioWare #Wario pic.twitter.com/bRNrjKMecD

— Nintendo Life (@nintendolife) June 3, 2021

This is strangely so direct since most companies would not be this direct and yet, it would be quite in character for Wario.

 

[SharkLord]

Over 50 is child's play. You're talking about a series that has over 180 characters with a good 75/80% of them having their own theme (Some have 2 or 3 depending on the character) as well as over 90 stage themes (I'm low balling this number). The hard part with Touhou Music is actually limiting it to a reasonable amount of tracks, especially since a lot of them are awesome.

There's also the question of "Wait, can we actually use fan compositions now?", what with how many viral remixes have been floating around; I'd wager most people who have been paying attention to the Touhou convos should be able to know of Night of Nights and Bad Apple.

Aside from the remixes, there's also the potential to bring the single longest song in Smash, beating out even the Advent edition of One-Winged Angel - Provided, of course, UM songs are taken into account, because that game gave us a ~9-minute track with a fricking choir.

 

[Perkilator]

This is strangely so direct since most companies would not be this direct and yet, it would be quite in character for Wario.

No pun intended, right?

 

[N3ON]

Interesting......

Nintendo Wants To Know If You Would Fork Out $50 For A New WarioWare Game https://t.co/1vaEgpbwlE #Nintendo #WarioWare #Wario pic.twitter.com/bRNrjKMecD

— Nintendo Life (@nintendolife) June 3, 2021

I appreciate the complete lack of subtlety.

 

[Paraster]

A thought: if we get a future Smash game that involves cuts, would it be possible to keep one character from a third party company but axe another from the same company?

For example, imagine that Sakurai negotiated to keep Simon and Richter but did not initially plan to keep Snake. When negotiations go well, is it possible Snake would be kept anyway as a "might as well" thing?

 

[zumaddy]

Some last predictions now since I'm going to be pretty busy leading up to E3:

Next character: Crash, Lloyd or Ryu
FINAL character: A gen 8 Pokemon (money on either Urshifu or G. Zapdos)

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I appreciate the complete lack of subtlety.

Fits Wario's character after all.

 

[Ivander]

No pun intended, right?

......Yeah. Right.

That aside, Nintendo is not really one to ask, "Will you pay this amount for a new game?" Normally, they would not be very unsubtle or would do PR talk with either, "The series is not in high demand" or something else PR-ish. This feels rather out of character for Nintendo, yet when you look at the series and Wario himself, this feels like something that would be in character for Wario would do.

 

[Technomage]

A thought: if we get a future Smash game that involves cuts, would it be possible to keep one character from a third party company but axe another from the same company?

It probably depends on the company itself; for example, since getting stuff from Square was difficult due to copyright, I'd imagine they'd cut one or two of the SE characters, even if they keep one of them.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

I kind of wish that Wario Ware survey had an other option where I could put in my own answer of "No, but I would gladly pay that and more for a new Wario Land game".

 

[chocolatejr9]

Interesting......

Nintendo Wants To Know If You Would Fork Out $50 For A New WarioWare Game https://t.co/1vaEgpbwlE #Nintendo #WarioWare #Wario pic.twitter.com/bRNrjKMecD

— Nintendo Life (@nintendolife) June 3, 2021

Alright, who placed their bets on "new WarioWare at E3"?

 

[Mamboo07]

Interesting......

Nintendo Wants To Know If You Would Fork Out $50 For A New WarioWare Game https://t.co/1vaEgpbwlE #Nintendo #WarioWare #Wario pic.twitter.com/bRNrjKMecD

— Nintendo Life (@nintendolife) June 3, 2021

Me want new Land game even though it would never happen because game died back in 2008.

 

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Last survey I remember they did asked about older FE titles. Months later we got FE1 translated. As far as I can tell Nintendo does listen to these surveys.

Would massively prefer a new Wario Land instead, but $50 for a new Warioware is fine IMO if it's not old content and not a tech demo like Gold or Game & Wario were. With Switch tech I'd imagine something of a spiritual successor to Smooth Moves.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

This is strangely so direct since most companies would not be this direct and yet, it would be quite in character for Wario.

Nah, Wario would make sure it goes for a full price of $60 at the very least

Then again, I'd assume Nintendo would too, but here we are

 

[N3ON]

A thought: if we get a future Smash game that involves cuts, would it be possible to keep one character from a third party company but axe another from the same company?

I think this will happen more than people expect simply because characters are treated on an individual basis, and just because a character could still legally be added doesn't mean they will. They're not viewed as the "Sega block of characters" or the "Capcom block of characters" where it's all or nothing. Priority is going to retain some and others will be edged out.

People are discounting Smash's resources are finite, and the repercussions of rebuilding a roster and adding newcomers will see some vets be outprioritized. And those will likely be both first and third parties. It's not as simple as "might as well include x too" because every character requires a good deal of time and resources to implement.

Me want new Land game even though it would never happen because game died back in 2008.

You never know.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Nah, Wario would make sure it goes for a full price of $60 at the very least

...So that's why a lot of these games are 60 dollars now.

On another note, I don't feel Link's Awakening Switch was that overpriced. It's not a simple remake. It's a massive overhaul in gameplay design, adds a pretty big new mode, changes things like removing the Camera thing for the Dungeom Maker.

It's at least a 40-50 dollar game, but it's not a cheap remake/small update either. It even adding new items is notable.

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Seeing the tweet, anyway, does make me think we're getting one character pack moreso than ever.

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

Interesting......

Nintendo Wants To Know If You Would Fork Out $50 For A New WarioWare Game https://t.co/1vaEgpbwlE #Nintendo #WarioWare #Wario pic.twitter.com/bRNrjKMecD

— Nintendo Life (@nintendolife) June 3, 2021

I would give 100 Bucks and my left Kidney!



For a Wario Land game, that is.

 

[3BitSaurus]

Seeing the tweet, anyway, does make me think we're getting one character pack moreso than ever.

Wait, I'm confused, do you mean the Warioware tweet? Why would that point to a single reveal?

 

[Icedragonadam]

The specific $50 price tag for a new Warioware makes me think it could be an enhanced port of WarioWare Gold.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

I think this will happen more than people expect simply because characters are treated on an individual basis, and just because a character could still legally be added doesn't mean they will. They're not viewed as the "Sega block of characters" or the "Capcom block of characters" where it's all or nothing. Priority is going to retain some and others will be edged out.

People are discounting Smash's resources are finite, and the repercussions of rebuilding a roster and adding newcomers will see some vets be outprioritized. And those will likely be both first and third parties. It's not as simple as "might as well include x too" because every character requires a good deal of time and resources to implement.


You never know.

Well Sonic and Megaman will probably never leave, they are just TOO iconic to get cut in my opinion, Ryu, Ken, Bayonetta and Joker are probably up in the air.

And if Cloud comes back Sephiroth is probably coming back too, i just dont see Cloud coming back alone after bringing in goddamn Sephiroth lol.

 

[chocolatejr9]

The specific $50 price tag for a new Warioware makes me think it could be an enhanced port of WarioWare Gold.

Well, if it's like the Miitopia port, at least the price will be understandable...

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Wait, I'm confused, do you mean the Warioware tweet? Why would that point to a single reveal?

No, the Nintendo tweet of it only being 40 minutes.

 

[Brother AJ]

No, the Nintendo tweet of it only being 40 minutes.

E3 2019 was about 40 minutes, so a double reveal is very possible.

 

[Icedragonadam]

E3 2019 was about 40 minutes, so a double reveal is very possible.

Yeah two reveals would only be around 4 minutes with 36 minutes left for other games.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Honestly there are so many valid possibilities for fighters at E3, that I think the line between reasonable prediction and hopeful wish is much blurrier than ever. So with that in mind I'll just put out the combination that's in my head:

Crash Bandicoot and Octoling Girl/Octoling Boy.

I guess my sense is that E3 will have the last major blowout character and a reasonable first party to end the pass. Moreover Crash would be huge for Western audiences and an Octoling big internationally, but especially in Japan. Both major markets get preferred fighters in, Splatoon 2/3 receives another bit of promotion, and Smash Ultimate is nicely bookended by an Inkling and an Octoling, albeit with the latter greatly differentiated from the former in moveset except for the ink mechanic.

I could potentially see this.

Be funny too Octoling being possilibity the last fighter.

Began with Inkling. Ends with Octoling.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

E3 2019 was about 40 minutes, so a double reveal is very possible.

They also had 4 characters left and half a year to reveal them. They didn't exactly have a lot of time after Joker took a while to come out, and him not even having gameplay was getting people anxious. They handled Hero/Banjo wayyyyy better, even if the wait for Banjo was annoying on its own.

They've spread it out heavily through 2020 and 2021, not helped also by delays. I don't really think this plan will change. There's also a huge amount of stuff to talk about besides Smash alone anyway, with all kinds of trailers/etc. to deal with. Being a different context(they are not in a hurry to get the characters revealed to meet the deadline), I don't overall consider it similar enough to E3 to be convinced it's an easy double reveal. Possible, but not likely, imo.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Had anyone considered this too?

Octoling being amongst potentially the double reveals for Smash as a means of promoting Splatoon 3. Keep that in consideration.

 

[cashregister9]

Oh yeah I never joined in on the Gut feeling conversation, I'm currently feeling Saber/Estelle and a "Big" character as the last 2.

 

[3BitSaurus]

No, the Nintendo tweet of it only being 40 minutes.

I'm not sure... there's more than enough time to squeeze two trailers in.

I think your other point - about them spreading the reveals - works a bit better, if only because they still have half a year left and no reason to rush.

Regardless, I do think CP11, if not a double reveal, would be shown around September at the absolute latest, considering our current pace.

 

[spicynun]

Not entirely inaccurate though.

When I watch a Namco X Capcom opening, I recognize pretty much all of the Capcom characters, but only a few of the Namco ones...

wow nostalgia. I haven't seen that video in ages

 

[PeridotGX]

I'm glad Nintendo seems to have remembered they don't have to sell every game for $60.

I might have picked up the Link's Awakening remake for $30-40, but $60 is far too steep for a gameboy game. Same story with ARMS, Crafted World, and the Diamond/Pearl remakes (also objectively PMD DX is not worth $60, but I love the series and want to support it in any way)

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I'm not sure... there's more than enough time to squeeze two trailers in.

I think your other point - about them spreading the reveals - works a bit better, if only because they still have half a year left and no reason to rush.

Regardless, I do think CP11, if not a double reveal, would be shown around September at the absolute latest, considering our current pace.

Fall is when I think the most likely time for CP11 is. September sounds like a good time, yeah.

But either way, it'll be interesting whatever happens.

I'm hoping for updates to modes moreso, since there's a lot of stuff that could use it in general. Stage Builder could have a Target Test addition for instance.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

There's always been more than one Smash reveal every E3 the series was presented.

Why I think we're getting a double reveal. I can see CP11 just being released September-October.

 

[N3ON]

Most character trailers themselves are only like three minutes. If they pull a Joker/Terry for FP11 it would be even shorter. It's entirely possible there's only a single reveal, but I wouldn't chalk much up to the duration of the event. Nintendo has really embraced the rapid-fire style quick-paced presentation as of the last few years, and it's going to be followed by a several-hour long treehouse for more in-depth look at the titles.

 

[perfectchaos83]

There's always been more than one Smash reveal every E3 the series was presented.

Why I think we're getting a double reveal. I can see CP11 just being released September-October.

There's nothing to suggest we would have gotten anything other than Min Min at Last year's E3, which would have been the only really comparable situation.

 

[Perkilator]

There's nothing to suggest we would have gotten anything other than Min Min at Last year's E3, which would have been the only really comparable situation.

I mean...we could've at least gotten a teaser for Steve (you know, one without gameplay, simply confirming he's in development, all that good jazz).

 

[Shroob]

I feel like trying to point at last year as a cause for or against 2 reveals at E3 is pointless, because E3 simply did not happen, and Nintendo pulled out of E3 in March of that year.


There's nothing to say we we have gotten 2, but there's also really nothing saying we wouldn't have. Nintendo rebuilt its release schedule due to COVID.