"common knowledge" that a lot of people don't know

[L__]

I don't understand what Novice is trying to say.

 

[KAOSTAR]

??????????????????

 

[Animal]

you can double wall jump on FD. i saw a falco do it. Also you can shine grab marth on the run and both will hit. so ****.

 

[ETWIST51294]

You can do that on Corneria too. Actually I believe you can triple walljusp on Corneria.

 

[Tamoo]

I think what novice is trying to say is that fox sounds a lot like ****, so switching characters between fox and another character will sound like the announcer is saying **** *insert character*

 

[ssbbFICTION]

You can catch mewtwo's fthrow shadowballs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lSmBPRYi30

 

[L__]

THAT lS AMAZING.

 

[MCSR]

THAT lS AMAZING.

This.
Also
WHAAAT THE FFFFFFUUUUUUUUU-

 

[RaynEX]

-G&W can upb through the "neck" of the Great Fox on Corneria. He has to be standing on the lasers under the ship.

-Version 1 of SSBM only: With ICs, grab a fireflower in training mode and jump. Tap Z once to drop with Popo and pick up with Nana while airborne. While holding A to produce flames, hit down and B. The fireflower will now conintually release its flames and never run out. The fire has no active hitbox.

-Version 1 of SSBM only: SH boomerange diagonally upwards with either Link or Y.Link. Jump off of the stage and grapple. Hang in mid-air until the boomerang returns. When it touches you, you'll be propelled up into magnified heights.

-Roy's usmash has the potential to meteor opponents. You have to hit with the tip of hilt of his sword.

 

[KAOSTAR]

In the 1st version of the game m2 could pull ppl thru stadium as well.

I think you can still do it on the left side.

 

[Roneblaster]

That lovage is awesome.

 

[Stev]

That lovage is awesome.

People didn't know that?

 

[X1-12]

You can do that on Corneria too. Actually I believe you can triple walljusp on Corneria.

how?

jump -> walljump -> DJ -> walljump -> triple jump??????? ->walljump????

-Roy's usmash has the potential to meteor opponents. You have to hit with the tip of hilt of his sword.

I'm fairly sure its a spike

 

[Dark Sonic]

jump -> walljump -> DJ -> walljump -> triple jump??????? ->walljump????

No. You just walljump->wall jump. Under the fin a wall jump will still leave you close enough to the fin to pull off another wall jump.

Fun stuff

 

[KAOSTAR]

how?

jump -> walljump -> DJ -> walljump -> triple jump??????? ->walljump????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_a7KspmX8w

Skip to 0:50. you will see the segment with 3 walljumps.

 

[Lovage]

not sure if L posted this before

touching a wall while shooting up in your firefox turns you around. this is why if you recover straight up and touch the lip of FD, you often end up turned the other way. this rarely kills you or anything, but it's good to know

 

[L__]

^ it's if you touch the wall of the stage period, not just FD

 

[Smash G 0 D]

Easy way for Falcon to walljump on FD without using a jump:

Run to the edge and start a dash attack late so that the animation is standing still on the ledge. Then hold back and tap forward once he falls. You'll walljump off the ledge from holding back, and retain your second jump.

 

[Lovage]

Easy way for Falcon to walljump on FD without using a jump:

Run to the edge and start a dash attack late so that the animation is standing still on the ledge. Then hold back and tap forward once he falls. You'll walljump off the ledge from holding back, and retain your second jump.

aka LOVEJUMPING

lol jk

in my vid i did 3 but 4 isn't that hard

and 5 probably with AR

 

[Smash G 0 D]

I heard it called

the 'Dominatrix.'

 

[Ministry]

if you get a sudden death within a sudden death the character with the higher controller port will win

 

[KAOSTAR]

aka LOVEJUMPING

lol jk

in my vid i did 3 but 4 isn't that hard

and 5 probably with AR

completely irrelevant but.....

in your berserker vid, did you instant wall jump on DL and then reverse laser.

Or basically Im asking can you instant wall jump on any stage other than FD, with fox/falco?

 

[Silent Wolf]

you can only do it on fd and on the rock on kongo jungle. maybe one some adventure mode stage too but i doubt it.

 

[The Good Doctor]

Somehow this turned into "not so common knowledge Silent Wolf knows"
Not complaining here

 

[Lovage]

completely irrelevant but.....

in your berserker vid, did you instant wall jump on DL and then reverse laser.

Or basically Im asking can you instant wall jump on any stage other than FD, with fox/falco?

no i did shine reverse laser phantasm edgestall

 

[ihavespaceblondes]

While most people will tell you that Samus' standing extended grapple requires you to press A or Z to grab when the hitbox touches someone, that's not exactly true. Instead, you press A or Z to choose which of the three time periods the grapple can grab anyone who meets the normal "can-be-grabbed" criteria, and is also on the ground.
The three time periods you can choose from (and you can only choose one per grab, even if you miss) are:
Frames 18-41, from when Samus launches the grapple forward to when it reaches its full length.
Frames 42-57, when the grapple stays at its full length for a little while.
Frames 59-94, from when the grapple begins to retract until it fully disappears and the grab animation ends.

I'm unsure about how big the actual hitbox of the grapple is during these time-frames, but it seems to be the entire grapple, although it may only be the blinking tip of the grapple.
Also keep in mind that the only advantage the regular grapple has over the extender is that it can grab out of the air during the first part (when the grab hitbox is located on Samus' gunarm), whereas the extender can never grab out of the air.

 

[Ballistics]

fastfalling is really not as important as people make it out to be, spacing is more important

 

[Silent Wolf]

fastfalling is really not as important as people make it out to be, spacing is more important

fast falling is very important, and is a part of spacing, so of course spacing as a whole is more important.

 

[Ballistics]

fast falling is very important, and is a part of spacing, so of course spacing as a whole is more important.

I was thinking of a falco standing next to and then short hop downairing a shield, instead of fast falling to try to shine before he can grab, move away after the downair and space another move.

I think ppl get too caught up with fast falling, its situationally important but its really not necessary, better to be safe in my opinion

 

[Silent Wolf]

the way you said it made it seem as though you meant in general, not just in that one situation, be more specific.

 

[pockyD]

fast falling is hugely important to controlling your vertical spacing

also i don't know if something like that should be said; the REAL goal is to both fast fall when necessary and also maintain your horizontal spacing, so there's no reason to stop doing one to do the other; instead do both

 

[Ballistics]

Yea i agree, I guess I meant to say that you shouldn't fastfall everything, its situational

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

Jiggs, Mewtwo, Peach and Yoshi confirmed. (Only if you cancel Mewtwo's.) And Sheik's is only one needle. And DK's if you cancel his.

cancel his punch?

all stages from the same game universe are lined up vertically at the stage selectiong (except maybe all the mario ones)

 

[JPOBS]

and you shouldn't not fastfall anything, that too is equally as situationl...

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

ah i also i have no idea how i did it but one time cancelled a transformation into a sidesmash

 

[Ballistics]

and you shouldn't not fastfall anything, that too is equally as situationl...

well you should not fast fall alot of things, but yes i agree, not fast falling too is situational

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

You can catch mewtwo's fthrow shadowballs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lSmBPRYi30

this only works in 1.0 i believe

 

[mers]

all stages from the same game universe are lined up vertically at the stage selectiong (except maybe all the mario ones)

whoa... i totally should have realized this before now.

 

[JPOBS]

well you should not fast fall alot of things, but yes i agree, not fast falling too is situational

depends on your defition of "a lot"

Like, sure as falco instead of traditional shine-dair/nair-shine pressure, you COULD always just do retreating fallaway non-fastfalled nairs/dairs and space so you dont get grabbed.

but thats not the be all end all. Not fastfalling and DI'ing back gives you're opponent time to do almost anything they want OoS to counter you including stuff like wd -> something.
or they could jump, waveland onto platforms and escape you entirely.

both situations end in you losing the advantage you had over them. the point of sheild pressure afterall is to poke them or force a stupid roll or something. But if you just going to LET your opponent get away in the name of "spacing' then there comes a point when its like

and then theres stuff like Marths double fair's and ganon's dair->DJ->dair which you obviously dont fastfall but thats for different reasons.

i dunno, just the way you originally said it made it seem like fastfalling is bad and spacing is the way to go. when its really a situaltional matter both ways.

edit: man i wrote way more than i wanted too :/

 

[Ballistics]

Right i do think spacing is the way to go, I dont think fastfalling is bad i just think ppl use it as their default and do it too much, but you're right they are both situational