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Colorado Smash - MVG Presents: REVELATION 2 - MIDWEST NATIONAL! MVG QUALIFIER! May 16-17
- Thread starter dettadeus
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I secondary him and fishbait use to as well. '3'
Im just saying its interesting that hes used so often here as opposed to MK or snake.
Im just saying its interesting that hes used so often here as opposed to MK or snake.
Underload
Lazy
Yep, and I forgot about Sunny. 7's probably half of the scene. Problem solved. Go home.
Welp, that was the high point of my interwebz day.
*goes back to playing pokemon B/W*
*goes back to playing pokemon B/W*
I can come to tourneys pretty regularly now, the only thing holding me back is my girlfriend. but if I know it's happening in advance and it's on Mapquest then I can pretty much go.
or did you mean Metaknight?
You bes' be trollin
or did you mean Metaknight?
Steam
Smash Hero
yay lucarios <3
ZMan
Smash Master
fixed to make it sound like nm's smash scene
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
No Moblin, I'm pretty sure you mained Lucario.
And are you planning on going to Brawl tournies? Cuz I think we're about done with Melee ones. Maybe not? I dunno.
And are you planning on going to Brawl tournies? Cuz I think we're about done with Melee ones. Maybe not? I dunno.
Steam
Smash Hero
everyone in colorado should main lucario IMO
Underload
Lazy
Lucario is the new Snake
Lucarios hitboxes can be just as ******** as snakes. :3
Well....almost as ********. :V
Steam
Smash Hero
that hitbox is extremely sexy...
but Marth extended a hurtbox
but Marth extended a hurtbox
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
I'm glad Sunny found this thread. He's seems like a pretty knowledgable player.
Come to Fishfest!
Come to Fishfest!
Ryyudo
Smash Rookie
So, TranZworld.
Why so scuuured of Tim @ PIF2?
Why so scuuured of Tim @ PIF2?
YangFuShang
Smash Apprentice
i was wondering the same thing.....
Timotee
Smash Journeyman
Ya know, I also had that question...
Aww dood your too sweet. xD
As much as I usually like boasting my ego,I gotta be honest. Im down right stupid when I try this stuff in battle. =p I think its because I lack some serious MU experience. Only MU I really know is olimar and game and watch. Before I came to colorado I only played against one hardcore dood that mained those two. awww just trust me. When we first brawl you'll probably wreck me. =p
OH BTW! When is fishfest? '3' Like exact date and stuff? I gotta clear this with my parents so I can go~! Been practicing all the advance tecs for yoshi and working on some mix up game. =w=
EDIT: Very sexy steam! 40 whole frames of delicious Bair hitbox. Mmmmmm. Marth just wanted a bite of it I think.
Steam
Smash Hero
I don't think lucario's bair lingers for 40 frames... if it did it would be the ultimate aerial zoning move...
now his upsmash probably lingers for close to 40 frames LMAO
now his upsmash probably lingers for close to 40 frames LMAO
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
No, his Usmash is an active hitbox for the rest of the game. If Lucario uses that move in one spot and you play on that stage the next day, it sometimes still hits.
InterimOfZeal
Smash Champion
haaaaaaaaaay
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For anyone interested in buying an arcade stick.
Courtesy of Jamaal.
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For anyone interested in buying an arcade stick.
Courtesy of Jamaal.
InterimOfZeal
Smash Champion
I recommend the Round 2, since it's only $100, and has free ground shipping.
Now to see if the Tim fairy will spot me if I can pay him back on Friday.
Now to see if the Tim fairy will spot me if I can pay him back on Friday.
Tranzworld
Smash Apprentice
whaaaaaaaaaaaat?
Tranzworld
Smash Apprentice
cross post~~, someone answer this :3
Not to be a jerk but its kinda obvious that this person is not very good. As you become more experienced in the smash scene you will start to realize why things like items are not used. The goal is to try and get an even and fair game w/ as little interference as possible (why tripping is so hated and some stages like wario ware are banned) to see who truly is the better player. Also flat stages are not only what people play on. For example PS1 or Lylat are standard neutrals and neither are simple flat stages.
Also brawl was actually made to NOT be competitive, meaning that items were not made to balance the game but to add extra entertainment since Brawl is supposed to be a party game.
TBH I think the brawl community has done a pretty good job. The best players usually win and most johns are about the player and not the game.
Also brawl was actually made to NOT be competitive, meaning that items were not made to balance the game but to add extra entertainment since Brawl is supposed to be a party game.
TBH I think the brawl community has done a pretty good job. The best players usually win and most johns are about the player and not the game.
InterimOfZeal
Smash Champion
I agree with Jorge. That person has no idea what's going on.
First off, what's ridiculous about using lives and a timer? If you went stamina, characters like Fox would be able to win just by running and shooting, and those super-situational 0-10% locks would become infinites.
If you play with just the timer, then players will camp the last min/30 sec of every single match.
The rest of the modes aren't even open for discussion.
So, what's "ridiculous" about stock+timer?
Moving on to items:
Characters like Snake, D3, MK, and the like actually still benefit EXTREMELY from items. Picture MK with glide tosses everywhere (MK can glide toss, rite?). Or ridiculous-*** D3 final smashes. Hell, picture D3 throwing a capsule that explodes. The characters are top because they're just really good/have ******** gimmicks. Some lower tiered characters benefit from items (Sonic), but given the random nature of items, plus the stupid effects a good chunk of them would have on the game, it's much easier to just remove the random factor and make it player vs player. This is also why chaotic stages aren't used. You don't want player vs items vs stage vs rng vs player. That kinda makes things too stupid.
Also, no one says that FD is balanced anymore. It was ~kinda~ fair in Melee, but due to stupid crap like falco camping, d3 cgs, diddy naner locks, and so on, it's almost a cp, and is one of the most common stages for people to ban/strike. No one stage is the most balanced, because MUs change how the stages are used. They're just tools for the players. The "neutral" stages are just the ones that give the smallest advantages/are the least random.
Oh, and D3 isn't top anymore?
This is probably the same kind of guy that claimed wding was a glitch. Either that, or he plays SF.
First off, what's ridiculous about using lives and a timer? If you went stamina, characters like Fox would be able to win just by running and shooting, and those super-situational 0-10% locks would become infinites.
If you play with just the timer, then players will camp the last min/30 sec of every single match.
The rest of the modes aren't even open for discussion.
So, what's "ridiculous" about stock+timer?
Moving on to items:
Characters like Snake, D3, MK, and the like actually still benefit EXTREMELY from items. Picture MK with glide tosses everywhere (MK can glide toss, rite?). Or ridiculous-*** D3 final smashes. Hell, picture D3 throwing a capsule that explodes. The characters are top because they're just really good/have ******** gimmicks. Some lower tiered characters benefit from items (Sonic), but given the random nature of items, plus the stupid effects a good chunk of them would have on the game, it's much easier to just remove the random factor and make it player vs player. This is also why chaotic stages aren't used. You don't want player vs items vs stage vs rng vs player. That kinda makes things too stupid.
Also, no one says that FD is balanced anymore. It was ~kinda~ fair in Melee, but due to stupid crap like falco camping, d3 cgs, diddy naner locks, and so on, it's almost a cp, and is one of the most common stages for people to ban/strike. No one stage is the most balanced, because MUs change how the stages are used. They're just tools for the players. The "neutral" stages are just the ones that give the smallest advantages/are the least random.
Oh, and D3 isn't top anymore?
This is probably the same kind of guy that claimed wding was a glitch. Either that, or he plays SF.
Tranzworld
Smash Apprentice
Rofl. The funny part is this is a SF player. Good job Tony.
I didn't feel like typing a huge response, thanks guise.
Steam
Smash Hero
This only happens if the lucario player mimics lucario's upsmash animation exactly and at the exact time when lucario Upsmashes.
@discussion- More traditional 2D fighter players need to learn about smarsh more.
Seriously, can someone PM info on fishfest? :>
Also i'll play melee but like don't be surprised when I get out the first round. :V Btw mewtwo all the way.
Also i'll play melee but like don't be surprised when I get out the first round. :V Btw mewtwo all the way.
Steam
Smash Hero
you should go to bees's smashfest down in pueblo this saturday :D
Steam
Smash Hero
before I forget once again peter I am going to help you...
I don't know if you notice this but when I'm in kill range you kinda get desperate with utilt... IDK about others but against lucario you're just asking for me to pivot Fsmash you. (this is what let me live to 193% and beat you game 1 at zournament). and generally when you don't Utilt you grab after which you basically always Dthrow and often times try to Utilt me out of it. even when you don't just try to Utilt Lucario is very difficult to tech chase and you'll rarely kill me off of it. I'd recomend using Fthrow or Bthrow to put me offstage as that's where lucario has basically no options against snake especially when he's in kill%. I basically have a 50-50 shot at dying at that point. I can either get ledgehogged or Utilted.
oh also you're doing the ledgeguard vs. lucario wrong. Don't Mortar> grab ledge. Mortar is pretty easy to get around. Dsmash near ledge> grab ledge is a lot better because I'm pretty much forced to land on your mine if you're on the ledge in a looooooot of situations.
I'd also recomend trying more things that force me to dodge into your utilt/something else. Granted they were friendlies and a different matchup but I got bees with stuff like that a loooooot.
Also talk to the Lucario slayer Snake mains on the snake boards. I'm sure somebody there is the reason junebug, Trela, and Zucco think Snake is lucario's worst matchup.
I don't know if you notice this but when I'm in kill range you kinda get desperate with utilt... IDK about others but against lucario you're just asking for me to pivot Fsmash you. (this is what let me live to 193% and beat you game 1 at zournament). and generally when you don't Utilt you grab after which you basically always Dthrow and often times try to Utilt me out of it. even when you don't just try to Utilt Lucario is very difficult to tech chase and you'll rarely kill me off of it. I'd recomend using Fthrow or Bthrow to put me offstage as that's where lucario has basically no options against snake especially when he's in kill%. I basically have a 50-50 shot at dying at that point. I can either get ledgehogged or Utilted.
oh also you're doing the ledgeguard vs. lucario wrong. Don't Mortar> grab ledge. Mortar is pretty easy to get around. Dsmash near ledge> grab ledge is a lot better because I'm pretty much forced to land on your mine if you're on the ledge in a looooooot of situations.
I'd also recomend trying more things that force me to dodge into your utilt/something else. Granted they were friendlies and a different matchup but I got bees with stuff like that a loooooot.
Also talk to the Lucario slayer Snake mains on the snake boards. I'm sure somebody there is the reason junebug, Trela, and Zucco think Snake is lucario's worst matchup.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
I think Snake is Lucario's second worst MU because of the chaingrab.
Steam
Smash Hero
dillon Snake is not king derderder
edit: Just got valkenhayn. gonna go screw around with my new furry character
edit: Just got valkenhayn. gonna go screw around with my new furry character
Underload
Lazy
Thanks much, Steam. I figured out a majority of that stuff a while ago, but you still covered some other good points. At least now I can confirm that the changes I made were good ones
Steam
Smash Hero
hey guys valkenhayn has a move that makes blood splatter everywhere :D
