My turn for the long post brigade!
1) They sucked at Melee/they don't want to practice to reach the levels that people are playing Melee at.
2) Brawl draws more scrubs, and it's easier to make a name for yourself. Also, makes money.
3) They genuinely like Brawl.
Saying "Melee is a game of the past/dead/whatever" is just a stupid argument. You know it, and I know it. Event 52, RoM, and Genesis pre-reg attendance for Melee all say hi. Oh, right, so does Colorado. Only reason it hasn't been at C3T until Super Con is because Greg thinks it's dead and that the Brawl community is still going strong.
That list is true, though I would add "burned out on melee". However, I was under the impression that melee hasn't been at nvga stuff because each time you convince dfg there will be a good sized side tourney, we don't have it because the people either don't show or would rather do friendlies. I counted 10 people I can think of that probably show up to the fests, and that's enough for a tourney, but then they need to show up and want to tourney instead of just friendly. Remember, greg is trying to run a business, and subway isn't gonna sponsor friendlies.
Try playing against Marth on Battlefield with Ness. What's that? You can't win? Who knew?!?
Actually, I'd rather face him there than FD. But yes, CPing is incredibly strong in Brawl. However, I will note ganon mains don't go ganon if you pick FD in melee...
My MK says hi. So does Nite's Falco. Too bad I suicide, amirite?
I only played like a match against you MK, so I can't say, but Nite's Falco is far from gay, and far from a standard Falco, because he hates playing gay.
But I do agree with you. CO plays too nice/flashy/fun. Hafta accept that Brawl is a game that's meant to be played as shoddily as possible. Learn to love it, it's the metagame.
Also on board with this statement
But yeah, be nice to have everyone giving input.
I'll give input to anyone that asks DURING matches. I don't store most habits for later. Although, here's one I can recall: If you weren't in the melee scene, you probably roll away from the edge when you get knocked down near it. Moblin knows it.
ZSS does pretty well. So does Kirby. I can teach you one, Tim can show you the basics with the other.
Ayup.
This is what people need to be saying/doing/thinking. At the beginning of CO's Melee scene really coming to life, I'd drive anywhere within 2 hours just to greet a new player.
The prime difference being gas prices, and no one new really appearing on smarshburds.
Alright, I have 2 of my mains set. Snake and Pikachu aren't going anywhere. I love them too much. I want one more though. I just have to go through my plethora of characters I play and pick my favorite... Preferably something that goes well against Olimar, R.O.B, and MK.
Snake is already your best bet against MK. Watch the vids of dook's snake to learn something, then go to the top tier snake vids. For the other 2, you could go with Tony's suggestion, or do gaw, marth, or bowser.
I agree tier-whoring isn't important if you can play well. Moblin got 13th in C3T with only Ganon, which is pretty **** good for a Ganon.
Tier-whoring may not be important for your MAIN, but you do need to know how the common characters play, and the easiest way to know that is play as them. Moblin got 13th, which is good, but can he remember the names of the people he beat? Did he beat anyone impressive, or that played good characters really well? He knows Ganon's meta, but in the end he would need to learn more about the good characters' spacings and timing.
Moar smashfests guys. Moar moar moar! I'm gonna go to every single one I possibly can. Maybe host one if I ever get the chance too. As long as nothing important is happening, I'm gonna go to every smashfest we have.
I can hold you to this.
And the highlight of the day was when we all picked random in the teams matches and our mains got switched, AND Tim predicted his cpu partner would be Peach. That was pretty awesome.
And the ***** let me down >.<
Seriously, this weekend has proved to me that I just can't stand brawl. The highlight of that day was teaching Tony how to play Cello, and that was mostly because Jamaal thought it was absolutely hilarious.
I have some bad news about that, Jamaal was laughing about something else...
I want to play smash ): Is LoVo still active on the forums?
STOMP THE YARD >.< >.< >.<
Tier whoring isn't as important as playing with skill. New Mexico has IC, Luigi, Diddy, and DK at their top. They have 1 tier *****, Alphabravo, and that's it. They are playing lower characters with skill. OK's best player is a Peach. Utah's is a sonic. These players are playing with skill, and aren't worried about so much of "who" rather than "what." What I mean by that is they are learning their character, and beating difficult matchups with it.
That list of characters isn't really bad characters, as tony pointed out. Also, the luigi has marf as a 2nd...Thanks Z-man >.<...
Another point I want to make. Colorado doesn't play gay enough. I see almost no one grab releasing Wario, or chaingrabbing like they should be. I don't see enough planking, or spam, or camping. It's nice that we like each other and all, <3 but when it's time to play it should be time to PLAY. If we want to prosper out of state, we have to learn to homo it up, and we have to increase our Brawl knowledge. That definitely isn't where it needs to be.
Yup, learn your character's freaking metagame. Then learn the metagame of every character you struggle against.
On a side note, when I return from California I will be happy to help anyone with what they may be doing wrong. We don't give each other enough input. I study all the people I have videos of, and I watch your habits so I know how to beat all of you at the next tourney. If you want these videos, ask me. No one at our tournaments seems to want to be recorded, and that kinda bothers me. If we plan to move forward in Brawl, paying the entry fee and lulzing around 80% of the time isn't gonna cut it. But it all depends on what we want.
I'm always willing to be recorded. And have learned the price of lulz =(
I'm not saying don't have fun. Personally, I just think getting better, and beating others is fun, that's why I play. I love everyone in CO, but if we want to get something done, lets do it.
This is also my boat.
New Mexico has smashfests every week. They are constantly pushing each other to improve. They don't hate the game as much as us, but they understand what is important. It is critical that we beat them at the Supercon. And trust me, they'll be ready.
Everyone that shows up to Supercon will be ready, and it will be our job to smack them down.
But if we don't want any of that nonsense, I'm down with Ganon dittos until I leave for Nevada. Oh ya, and props to people who are doing the work and doing their best to get better.
That's the crossroads we're at. Of everyone that plays smash in CO, I think that only 4 or 5 play at any of their characters' top metagames. Flux with MK, Meno and Peach, Moblin with Ganon, me with Ness, and Underload with Snake are the only ones I can think of. With Ness it is easy, there is no metagame, so I'm left making it up as I go along, so we'll go with 4. Maybe the TL players can get on the list as well, since they both have a fair idea of what to do, but only 1 was at C3, and he was playing MK whenever I looked, and it wasn't as good as Flux. This last tourney was about 40 people in size. So 10% of CO brawl players are, not playing the game at top metagame, but KNOW what the top metagame even is. That's awful. Don't bother arguing this point, I will be ignoring it. Why? Because it's the ****ed truth.
If you wanna get good at brawl, you have to read and experiment. If you wanna get good at melee, you have to practice and read. Right now it seems like everyone is comfy in the ruts we built, I know I was. But I'm not anymore, so it's time to do something about it.
Anytime you want to play brawl, give me a call or text at 303-888-8777, and if I'm available I will play. You can either come here, or I can go to your place. If these sessions are 1 on 1, I will only be playing characters I seriously want to play as and improve, and I will even throw out suggestions. I'd offer this with melee too, but quite frankly I fit all 4 of the categories mentioned earlier.
So there it is, CO players. The offer to improve is on the table from pretty much anyone that will play this game and can teach you. You can either take it, or leave it.
