Little England
Smash Master
I'd say its even as well.
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Chicago-Land Power Rankings (Updated 12/30/2011)
- Thread starter Fortress | Sveet
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All the top tier MUs are even IMO
You just can't get away with bullying / autopilot / nonsensery like they can against the better MUs.
EDIT: but to get back on topic and answer your original question: no, you cannot be a Midwest villain.
You just can't get away with bullying / autopilot / nonsensery like they can against the better MUs.
EDIT: but to get back on topic and answer your original question: no, you cannot be a Midwest villain.
The Good Doctor
Smash Champion
If you're a hero, im definitely a villain
Fortress | Sveet
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Falco doesn't have any "even" matchups
The Good Doctor
Smash Champion
The last thing I want to discuss is Falco's very obvious homosexuality.
I have no problems with gays, but I dont want details.
To your earlier question, fox/puff can approach more safely, so they get to choose when engagements occur.
Approaching is almost never "safe", but Sheik REALLY sticks her neck out when she does.
Scythe
Smash Master
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Do you feel puff should be lower then?
FrootLoop
Smash Lord
"approach" doesn't even mean anything anymore
actually everyone should be lower
john!
Smash Hero
sheik is amazing jeff, wtf are you talking about??
just because she isn't as blatantly ridiculous as the spacies doesn't mean she's not extremely good or that you can't win a tournament with her
just because she isn't as blatantly ridiculous as the spacies doesn't mean she's not extremely good or that you can't win a tournament with her
Meneks
Smash Lord
Shiek is NOT the new falcon
HoChiMinhTrail
Smash Master
huge johns, my ganon will **** anyone's spacie secondaries and prob. most of your spacie mains. GANON IS TRUTH
Lanceinthepants
Smash Lord
Haha that ganon is a buster. Whoop on that **** all day.
Meneks
Smash Lord
Upsmashing ganons with fox is probably one of the funnest things about this game
Wake
Smash Master
Peach/Falco is even or in Peach's favor.
Quaz
Smash Master
Cmon John and Jeff, you really need to stop blaming your character.
gotta remember that everyone is human, no one is perfect at the game. Unless you're playing a super bad character its possible to win.
gotta remember that everyone is human, no one is perfect at the game. Unless you're playing a super bad character its possible to win.
john!
Smash Hero
i guess using secondaries is technically "blaming your character"
but i'll blame her all i want if it means i get to win more matches and have more fun
but i'll blame her all i want if it means i get to win more matches and have more fun
Quaz
Smash Master
John Im aware Peach has her limits, but don't you think you blame the problem on her a bit too much?
I really hope you dont expect to win with the mentality that you are spacies and only apply that. you'll only beat subpar people with that attitude.
I really hope you dont expect to win with the mentality that you are spacies and only apply that. you'll only beat subpar people with that attitude.
john!
Smash Hero
i'm trying to perform as well as i can. if that means being realistic about how good i am with my "main" in comparison to my secondaries, then so what? was armada "blaming his character" by switching to yl in the puff matchup? of course he was, but why is that a bad thing?
Fortress | Sveet
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Quaz
Smash Master
I guess, keep in mind that he switched to a low tier though =P
Im not really trying to say that switching characters is a bad thing, I just think your reason for doing it is well.. eeeh... not as great? to me it just seems like you're going in thinking "okay, Im fox/falco.. so I should win everytime now" it doesnt work that way against better players. but if you actually do go further then the mentality that you're the best characters in the game, then that'll work out most likely! my apologies if thats the case.
Meneks
Smash Lord
Peach is like one of my WORST match ups, along with ic's and puffBull, falco ***** everyone including peach
HoChiMinhTrail
Smash Master
some characters are better suited for a player's skillset, perhaps you will find yourself doing better with the spacies. I played a lot of marth in my day, but i just couldn't get good with him. My ganon has been my best 2ndary by far in my smash career, idk he just feels right when i play him.
oh and ice climbers **** falco for free
Wake
Smash Master
Oh Sveet, that's just silly.Bull, falco ***** everyone including peach
Also, I agree with Orly. Love your main! Peach is amazing, but maybe she isn't for you John? Like what Trail said, find the character that suits you the best.
john!
Smash Hero
man everyone's acting like it's such a big deal to use secondaries =/ some people like variety! one character gets boring after a while.
Wake
Smash Master
Nah it's not a big deal lol. It's a good strategy haha.
Quaz
Smash Master
That is true, I would love to use more characters but all my other ones are so bad.
Fortress | Sveet
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I think sticking to one character as long as possible is the best option. Look at all the top pros: Hax, Dr PP, Hungrybox, Armada, Jman, Wobbles... they all stick to their main in almost every situation, and if not its because they have planned to change ahead of time. If you can beat someone, you should be able to do it with your main. Switching characters is just a gimmick and gimmicks aren't reliable in competitive play.
Fortress | Sveet
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But they focused on one character at a time. Eventually M2K had a fox marth and sheik, but first he had a fox, then he had a fox and marth, then he had all three. Same with PC and KDJ. Idk about azen tho
Fortress | Sveet
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True, but not all techs are important for every character. In SF terms, hadoken spacing isn't that important if you play viper.
Fortress | Sveet
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Learning how to do it with falcon won't help you learning to do it with sheik. You already know what to do, you just need to spend time learning how
I disagree.
My sheik (since it's MY sheik, after all) has habits that I fall into and it's harder to not play into those habits. My falcon has habits too (obviously) but I started the character fresh and learning how to play it (as well as putting hit boxes places).
errr basically, idk if my sheik can learn how to do that, but when I play falcon I keep my eyes wide open for people doing stupid **** that I can hit them for. Now I can go back to sheik with a better idea of what to look for, even though I can't do it the EXACT same way.
buttttttt to support your thesis, I played sheik for like two days and then switched to falcon since moving, and playing smash nearly every day has helped my falcon out a lot.
Edit: I still disagree. I forgot that playing falcon vs mattdotplanetzebes' falco taught/retaught the importance of fluid movement (like wavelanding on platforms is souporsalad good). I know how to deal with falco's lasers as sheik, and now I have another option.
tl;dr 14.3K POSTS WTF?!
My sheik (since it's MY sheik, after all) has habits that I fall into and it's harder to not play into those habits. My falcon has habits too (obviously) but I started the character fresh and learning how to play it (as well as putting hit boxes places).
errr basically, idk if my sheik can learn how to do that, but when I play falcon I keep my eyes wide open for people doing stupid **** that I can hit them for. Now I can go back to sheik with a better idea of what to look for, even though I can't do it the EXACT same way.
buttttttt to support your thesis, I played sheik for like two days and then switched to falcon since moving, and playing smash nearly every day has helped my falcon out a lot.
Edit: I still disagree. I forgot that playing falcon vs mattdotplanetzebes' falco taught/retaught the importance of fluid movement (like wavelanding on platforms is souporsalad good). I know how to deal with falco's lasers as sheik, and now I have another option.
tl;dr 14.3K POSTS WTF?!