Character Rankings List - Post-March 2010

[UltiMario]

MK is so awesome now.
1337 LOLquazas
In part of my sig you cannot see nao

 

[Browny]

lol... thx for quoting me in your sig

 

[Levitas]

Every deck should have bitterblossom.

back when goyf was the big deal, we decided that the best way to make any deck better was to add it. But goyf really isn't that broken either.

I just want to see a blue white red deck playing bitterblossom with no black sources because it's that good of a card.

 

[The Real Inferno]

Garchomp was just too good and it didnt take long for Pokemon TOs all over to start randomly banning him to try and even things out a little. The problem with Garchomp wasn't he just was on every team, it was that every team also had to carry one pokemon just to take care of him. It was a sad state of affairs. Also, I quit MTG a long time ago when the game started getting overloaded with excessive ***gotry in the card abilities and effects.

 

[PKNintendo]

Lol quaza. Don't you mean, lol arceus?

Arceus>Quaza.

 

[gantrain05]

so, are you guys talking about pokemon cards or the gameboy games? cuz the cards were just lame.

 

[Samochan]

so, are you guys talking about pokemon cards or the gameboy games? cuz the cards were just lame.

The cards were totally awesome too before the new generation and no old cards allowed. >.>

 

[ph00tbag]

Speaking of the cards, has anyone heard that the Mew Promo from a few years back is now going for like forty bucks a pop, or some equally obscene number?

I wish I hadn't lost my copy.

 

[Zankoku]

lol, seriously? It wasn't even a good card, it just looked fancy and you'd get it for paying to see a Pokémon movie in a theatre.

 

[Browny]

I still have that card buried in my wardrobe now lol. Do you mean the one with all the hieroglyphic symbols on it?

 

[ph00tbag]

lol, seriously? It wasn't even a good card, it just looked fancy and you'd get it for paying to see a Pokémon movie in a theatre.

It's all hearsay, mind you. But I think you've said precisely why it's so hilarious. After looking around, 40 dollars is a gross exaggeration (I don't remember where I got that number), but the fact that it's worth money at all is hilarious to me.

djbrowny: that's the one.

 

[Samochan]

Speaking of the cards, has anyone heard that the Mew Promo from a few years back is now going for like forty bucks a pop, or some equally obscene number?

I wish I hadn't lost my copy.

D:

I have many of those, in pristine condition (or almost, not my fault then if not). Same thing with the old cards, my buddy still has lots of shiny pokemon (not shiny card, but pokemon) and then that uuh, southern island cards as well. Where can I check dem prices and stuff?

 

[Deleted member]

Ike's in the "never used" section.

Hah! And they say Ike's overused.

 

[ShadowLink84]

The birthday pikachu is around $200

 

[Snowstalker]

DETAILS
* Rank <LOLquaza>
1 Meta Knight (41 top8, 25 top4, 14 top2, 28 wins) - 1337.6

1337?!?! Dear god, he's unstoppable!


But seriously, I'm surprised seeing Sonic so low. Coulda sworn he was in D rank just a week ago.

 

[Dark Hart]

DETAILS
* Rank <LOLquaza>
1 Meta Knight (41 top8, 25 top4, 14 top2, 28 wins) - 1337.6

lol

10lawlz

 

[Morrigan]

Okay, didn't that get old like 7 days ago?

 

[Denzi]

t's still funny.

 

[PKSkyler]

no old cards allowed. >.>

what the hell....? So if i go to some pokemon card tourney (lol) and I had that old *** charizard or something in my deck, it would be banned?


how bout something old but real suckey....like a freaking farfetchd or something.

 

[Samochan]

what the hell....? So if i go to some pokemon card tourney (lol) and I had that old *** charizard or something in my deck, it would be banned?


how bout something old but real suckey....like a freaking farfetchd or something.

Well they're allowed on unlimited... but yea, the older cards are out of date now, so thus banned on regular sets. Even those that have just updated versions of the old cards, like Bill. >.> And the new cards are just lame, with the abundance of Ex pokemon that now for some reason have 200hp or more and omg deal ridiculous amount of damage, like 150-200. >_>; Then with the new cards, the old ones just don't work so well, like rare candy > pokemon breeder and so on.

 

[Levitas]

Bill is one of those cards that every deck not called a stall deck should run. It makes decks strictly better.

 

[exidid]

This hasn't been updated for a while :/

 

[PKSkyler]

Bill is one of those cards that every deck not called a stall deck should run. It makes decks strictly better.

its the Pokemon equvilant to Pot of Greed, seeing as its banned now.

This hasn't been updated for a while :/

Your right.....I posted 5+ tournaments in like the last 4 days and i dont think ive seen updates.

 

[Col. Stauffenberg]

It's only been a week. Give Ankoku a break.

 

[exidid]

Ankoku's life is here >:'(

 

[Zankoku]

I'm not ****ing updating a list when I got a total of two new tournaments added in since last week.

 

[Yoshi Kirishima]

Lol. Be thankful Ankoku is even doing this for us

lol at @lolquaza.

but i think thats the first time i saw that term

 

[Black_Heretic]

D20 Smash Tourney
$5 entrance
31 entrants
9/13/08
Alameda, CA

1- Marth
2- Lucario
3- Snake
4- Toon Link

 

[Charoo]

garchomp is too good. I mean, how did they come up with the name haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC7itRokgeY

 

[Shy Guy 86]

Suddenly this topic changed to "The official Pokemon Competitive Discussion"

Garchomp isn't really that broken, any pokemon thats Faster will easily wreck him with Ice Beam

 

[choknater]

Suddenly this topic changed to "The official Pokemon Competitive Discussion"


Garchomp isn't really that broken, any pokemon thats Faster will easily wreck him with Ice Beam

Not really. Yache Berry Chomps even survive non-STAB blizzards. An unboosted Ice Beam will pretty much never OHKO a Yache Chomp. Another one of the main broken features of Garchomp is that he has 102 base speed, which outspeeds SOOOO many base 100 pokemon. One swords dance can cost the game, and even resistant pokemon cannot wall his outrage very well. Those that do (Skarm, Bronzong...???) are easily countered.

Mamoswine Ice Shard, Shard/Ice Punch Weavile, or sticking HP Ice or Ice beam on random physical walls is pretty much the only way to beat him.

Heck, my Jolly Weavile gets outsped by the less common choice scarf garchomp.

Uggghhh. The main reason behind his ban at smogon was because there's basically no way to coutner him. He's too good for OU standard (but unfortunately he's not that great in ubers... only decent.)

 

[Mr.E]

I'm a much better pokémon player than I am at Smash and, for the sake of relating it to Smash, Garchomp is like the Meta Knight of standard play. *ahem* There is no pure counter to Yache 'Chomp but likewise can be said of many other offensive pokémon like Lucario or Gengar. (They rely more on unpredictability than brute force as Garchomp does, but a kill's a kill in my book.) I'm not bringing the whole debate here, I'm just letting it be known that not all of us competitive Pokémon-ers think he needed elevated to uber status. :/

His usability in the Uber metagame is irrelevant, although he's really not that bad there either. He outspeeds a lot of the slower ubers and Dragon is probably the most common defensive type (Dialga/Palkia, the Latis, Rayquaza) behind Psychic, so he blows away a good deal of the uber cast.

 

[Endless Nightmares]

Minnesota Meltdown: Neo Summer Gathering
Entry fee: $10
Minneapolis, MN
15 entrants

1 D. Disciple - Lucario
2 56K - Marth
3 Bubbaloo - Marth
4 Ravepulse - Snake
5 Keits - Wario

Results Thread - http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=164198

 

[thumbswayup]

Chudat had another biweekly two days ago. I think he won with Kirby and Ninjalink placed 2nd.

Brawl Singles
1. ChuDat
2. NinjaLink
3. G-Regulate
4. Boss
5. Forte
5. Jceasar

Chu used Kirby, NL used Diddy/ROB/others maybe, G-reg used Snake, Boss used Luigi and Mario(I think?), Forte used MK, and Jceasar used ROB

 

[Bouse]

Swamp
Dark Ritual x4
Lightening Boots
Phage the Untouchable
She touched your no-no place.

Either that or...
Mountain
Spark Elemental
x2 Blazing Shoals with Myojin's of Infinite Rage
Attack for 23.
Is big boom.

I should start playing that game again...

I miss Arc-Sloggers...

 

[Morrigan]

Okay, seriously, what the ****.

 

[cutter]

Now we're talking about the pokemon TCG? ****.

It's really sad Wizards of the Coast made pokemon such an overpowered game when compared to MTG. The trainer cards were so broken it was unreal.

Bill = Ancestral Recall
Professor Oak = Contract from Below
Computer Search = Demonic Tutor
Energy Search = fetchlands on crack
Item Finder = Regrowth
Energy Removal = Stone Rain
Kanghaskan = SELF Howling Mine

Unlike MTG, Trainer cards are completely free and weren't banned at all. Just play the card and reap the benefits big time.

What made Pokemon even more ridiculous was the fact that you mulliganed and drew 7 new cards every time. This allowed Rain Dance Blastoise decks to be able to set up a turn 2 kill by purposely running only like 4 Squirtle, 4x Chansey and 4x Kanghaskan for stall. Who cares if your opponent draws 2 cards per mulligan if you kill them on turn 2-3.

I made the Rain Dance deck so long ago; games basically went like this:

Get Squirtle on the bench and put out Chansey/Kangaskhan for stall. Play Bills and Prof. Oaks to draw out my deck. Use Computer Search to tutor for a Pokemon Breeder so I get a turn 2 Blastoise. Bring out Blastoise via a Switch or something else and wipe out the opponent's army with 60 damage Hydro Pumps every turn. Good game.

The Pokemon TCG was a terrible game. The devs didn't care at all to test the cards and Wizards never really took the game seriously at a competitive level like they do with MTG.

 

[JhMS]

^Agree with Dekuu.Lets stop the pokemon discussion shall we?
I have a question:Latinoamerica tournaments count?

 

[choknater]

Stop the Pokemon discussion? ....What?

Lucario should have his Swords Dance set in Brawl. Yayuhzzz.

Mr. E yeah you're probably right. I suppose that despite his dominance of OU, he doesn't have such an advantage over the rest of the cast that he should be thrown into ubers. Even pokemon who barely make the cut such as Wobbufett and Manaphy are still incredibly powerful and would affect the OU metagame much more than Garchomp.

Still, I think it sort of gives a fresh new start to OU play, and teams are becoming more diverse. (I'm seeing a lot more Lucarios though... I guess he's the new offensive beast to watch out for, haha. Well, at least he dies to one earthquake by practically anything as long as you don't let him set up.)

 

[Winston]

Now we're talking about the pokemon TCG? ****.

It's really sad Wizards of the Coast made pokemon such an overpowered game when compared to MTG. The trainer cards were so broken it was unreal.

Bill = Ancestral Recall
Professor Oak = Contract from Below
Computer Search = Demonic Tutor
Energy Search = fetchlands on crack
Item Finder = Regrowth
Energy Removal = Stone Rain
Kanghaskan = SELF Howling Mine

Unlike MTG, Trainer cards are completely free and weren't banned at all. Just play the card and reap the benefits big time.

What made Pokemon even more ridiculous was the fact that you mulliganed and drew 7 new cards every time. This allowed Rain Dance Blastoise decks to be able to set up a turn 2 kill by purposely running only like 4 Squirtle, 4x Chansey and 4x Kanghaskan for stall. Who cares if your opponent draws 2 cards per mulligan if you kill them on turn 2-3.

I made the Rain Dance deck so long ago; games basically went like this:

Get Squirtle on the bench and put out Chansey/Kangaskhan for stall. Play Bills and Prof. Oaks to draw out my deck. Use Computer Search to tutor for a Pokemon Breeder so I get a turn 2 Blastoise. Bring out Blastoise via a Switch or something else and wipe out the opponent's army with 60 damage Hydro Pumps every turn. Good game.

The Pokemon TCG was a terrible game. The devs didn't care at all to test the cards and Wizards never really took the game seriously at a competitive level like they do with MTG.

You know they made the game much much less broken as it went on, right?

MTG started out with Ancestral Recall and Black Lotus and the Channel/Fireball deck.

My gripe with Pokemon isn't the brokenness because that can be fixed, it's that the game is fundamentally less interactive and therefore less fun than MTG.

I still loved it because I love card games in general <3