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Character Rankings List - Post-March 2010
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Nidtendofreak
Smash Hero
I think we can agree on one thing about the match-up: its like dualing with flamethrowers while strapped with TNT. One false move = GG.
Tarmogoyf
Smash Master
Sounds 50/50
Yeah, I can agree to that. Everything is so risky.
Kawaii: Ike isn't that slow. Really. And you HAVE to PS most of his stuff if its just coming out, because the ICs bad traction will prevent a grab (Found that out against Aurturito)
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
I've come to learn that Ike is only grab bait if you are really careless. If you use Smash attacks a lot, you're going to get grabbed. If you try to use quick draw as an attack or are not careful with your spacing while using it, you're going to get grabbed. It's the same way with his specials and fair.
Nidtendofreak
Smash Hero
ICs have twice as much TNT as there are two of them. >_> <_<Sounds 50/50
Tarmogoyf
Smash Master
That huge explosion will probably cause Ike's TNT to explode
Melomaniacal
Smash Champion
Oh, Ike can 0-death too?
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
against ICs, yes he can
its called f smash
its called f smash
meepxzero
Smash Master
wow am i really hearing ike beats ic lolol. okay okay....
bad ike vs bad ic is **** for ike.
good ike vs good ic is **** for ic.
There that makes the most sense. Ic have the biggest learning curve, but i feel like they are actually the easiest to play perfect at the highest level. As opposed to outsmarting ur opponent you set up traps that get you grabs and use what you trained against a cpu ingame.
not shamelessly promoting this character, but i kinda am.
bad ike vs bad ic is **** for ike.
good ike vs good ic is **** for ic.
There that makes the most sense. Ic have the biggest learning curve, but i feel like they are actually the easiest to play perfect at the highest level. As opposed to outsmarting ur opponent you set up traps that get you grabs and use what you trained against a cpu ingame.
not shamelessly promoting this character, but i kinda am.
Nidtendofreak
Smash Hero
Can you do us a favor Meep and go fight Kirk in some MMs or something like that? Because I can also say Ike can set traps as well, but now it's getting beyond facts (Like Ike has more range, ICs has 0-death CGs, etc) and into playing style more then actual character abilities.
Melomaniacal
Smash Champion
I would love to play an Ike who thinks f smash is good in that match up.
Risk is too high.
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
Technically, yes, he can... against Wario... if he catches Wario out of his second jump.
meepxzero
Smash Master
yea after i beat him pretty badly hes gonna john about not knowing the match up lol... but sure if i run into him at a tourney al mm him.
Ive lost to neo's ike before so dont get me wrong about underestimating ike, but that just made me realize i needa perfect everything about my character to beat ike. Im pretty sure i can beat neo's ike now cuz he doesnt wanna try marth against me no more a far superior character. Perfect ic >>>>>>>> perfect ike.
Noraa
Smash Lord
100% false
momochuu
Smash Legend
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Uhh...they actually do. Which is why there's like 5 ICs mains that know what they're doing.
If it's not ICs, who is it? >_>
meepxzero
Smash Master
i kno you play ic lol. GO win a tourney with them and tell me how you do
. Watch out for random characters you have no idea how to cg cuz if you havent done your hw ur gonna get burnnneddd... I still suck at cging jiggs just so people know.
Noraa
Smash Lord
ic are not difficult to use at all, you can practice for mybe 3 days and be decent with them.
i think pt or yoshi have a higher learning curve. (just my opinion)
Meep, winning a tourny doesnt reflect on high how the curve is, if thats the case then there are tons of characters who have a higher curve.
i think pt or yoshi have a higher learning curve. (just my opinion)
Meep, winning a tourny doesnt reflect on high how the curve is, if thats the case then there are tons of characters who have a higher curve.
momochuu
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Being a bad character =/= Having a high learning curve.
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
Olimar
/character bias.
Nah, it's Sonic. It's just no one bothered to play IC's because they're silly and shouldn't be in the game. Sonic has many fanboys that play him and about 3 are any decent. Lots of people are learning IC's now.
Noraa
Smash Lord
just simply saying 2 characters i think that have high learning curves to be played well.
lain
Smash Master
I enjoy the Ice Climbers from time to time.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
i enjoy watching you play ice climbers from time to time
gantrain05
Smash Master
ice climbers are aight, in all honesty the probably do have the highest learning curve, but yoshi and trainer isn't tough lol, peach is harder than most and even she isn't TOO tough to learn.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
ummmm you wanna see learning curve?
put ur cursor on snake
and than move it one spot down.
theres yoru learning curve.
lol character bias
put ur cursor on snake
and than move it one spot down.
theres yoru learning curve.
lol character bias
Classicrf
Smash Rookie
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Lolocaust. It's really easy to learn how your character fits into Sonic's moveset. He is crazy predictable.
Atomsk_92
Smash Hero
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I believe Goofy has the highest learning curve. It takes true skill to wield such a beast. "COME ON!!!!!"
Jupz
Smash Master
I also have trouble CGing Ganon, and I also suck at CGing ness and lucas.
Kinzer
Mammy
...Sonic doesn't even have that big of a learning curve... then again with Brawl most characters are easy to pick up on the spot and do decent with...
ICs are just practicing CGs, after that it's the usual know your spacing and junk... nothing else comes to mind about them... unless you want to get creative with your CGs.
ICs are just practicing CGs, after that it's the usual know your spacing and junk... nothing else comes to mind about them... unless you want to get creative with your CGs.
Melomaniacal
Smash Champion
You can do some crazy stuff with desynching as well.
CO18
Smash Hero
Zero Ping Hollywood Florida, 8/15/09
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1. Seibrik (Mk/Dedede)
2. Afro (Snake/Wario)
3. Esam(Pikachu)
4. Galeon(Lucas)
5. Lee(Diddy Kong)
5. Master Raven(Mk)
7. R@vyn(Pit)
7. Nick Riddle(Zss)
Link: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=243283
10$ Entry
1. Seibrik (Mk/Dedede)
2. Afro (Snake/Wario)
3. Esam(Pikachu)
4. Galeon(Lucas)
5. Lee(Diddy Kong)
5. Master Raven(Mk)
7. R@vyn(Pit)
7. Nick Riddle(Zss)
Link: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=243283
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Whoa ****. What a Lucas. and what happened to Nick Riddle? ****, **** sounds crazy.
Um...really?
I don't even want to get into this lmao. Most people who talk about climbers have no clue how to play them.
Directed at people talking about IC's vs Ike:
Also, IC's beat Ike. Pretty solidly at that. Can you please point out to me Ikes that are beating IC's? Anywhere? Tournament's aside, Ike has some tools to avoid grabs, but it is very easy to just get squall and uair damage off on him. Ike jumping over blizzard to fair = free uair. Ike countering blizzard = free anything. You can easily pivot grab ike out of fair as well if he trys to hit your blizzard.
To keep things simple, IC's beat ike by simply shielding then punishing. And if you think Ikes throws are fast enough to go unpunished then you should play me lol.
Kinzer
Mammy
Yeah, I'm sorry, I take back what I said, I completely forgot about desyncs. :<
Affinity
Smash Hero
OH SNAP v5 - Norman, OK
8/15/09
Entry Fee: $10
Tourney Thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=237569
*Results Thread not made yet*
80 Entrants
1: Dojo (MK)
2: Ultimate Razor (Snake)
3: Lee Martin (Lucario)
4: Jerm (Toon Link)
5: UTD Zac (G&W)
5: Bassem (Wario)
7: Kos Mos (Peach)
7: Hyrulian Royalty (Toon Link)
8/15/09
Entry Fee: $10
Tourney Thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=237569
*Results Thread not made yet*
80 Entrants
1: Dojo (MK)
2: Ultimate Razor (Snake)
3: Lee Martin (Lucario)
4: Jerm (Toon Link)
5: UTD Zac (G&W)
5: Bassem (Wario)
7: Kos Mos (Peach)
7: Hyrulian Royalty (Toon Link)
Magik0722
Smash Champion
Lee martin went mostly wario i believe
Xisin
Smash Ace
Something2Do tournament
Louisville, ky
5 dollar fee
8/15/09
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=176121&page=109
25 entrants
1. Xisin (Marth)
2. Zeni (Metaknight/Jigglypuff)
3. Mister Eric (R.O.B)
4. Excel (Sonic)
5. Ryzen (Falco)
5. Crash (Luigi)
7. Hilt (Olimar)
7. Calic (Pikachu)
Louisville, ky
5 dollar fee
8/15/09
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=176121&page=109
25 entrants
1. Xisin (Marth)
2. Zeni (Metaknight/Jigglypuff)
3. Mister Eric (R.O.B)
4. Excel (Sonic)
5. Ryzen (Falco)
5. Crash (Luigi)
7. Hilt (Olimar)
7. Calic (Pikachu)
C3 August Assault
8/15/09
MD/VA (Atlantic North)
30 Entrants
$10 entry
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=245338
1: Azen (Lucario)
2: Korn (MK/Snake)
3: Boss (Mario/Luigi)
4: Junebug (Falco/Lucario/DK)
5: Chu (Kirby/ICs)
5: meep! (ICs)
7: Sanoscy (MK)
7: AlphaZealot (Diddy)
8/15/09
MD/VA (Atlantic North)
30 Entrants
$10 entry
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=245338
1: Azen (Lucario)
2: Korn (MK/Snake)
3: Boss (Mario/Luigi)
4: Junebug (Falco/Lucario/DK)
5: Chu (Kirby/ICs)
5: meep! (ICs)
7: Sanoscy (MK)
7: AlphaZealot (Diddy)
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