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Slip Bombs also have an impressive meteor effect which can hurt Villager.
I'm not sure and I don't know how to reliably test it since I have a 3DS and there's no way for me to force the CPU to hang on the ledge and not get up. I think part of the edges of it does hit, but the issue is this: it's not a Burst or Gravity Grenade. It won't kill and I don't think ZSS Electromagnetic Net kills either. Falco and ZSS might end up chipping damage with this which for Falco and ZSS, it might be better for them to use Burst Blaster and Blaster Shot instead, especially ZSS since Electromagnetic Net doesn't have that much range compared to Falco's Explosive Blaster - he can stand about a third of FD and away from Villager - and Sheik's Burst Grenade and customs.
I suppose it was more a theory: Large frame to get pelted by rocks and Loids, her primary kill move can be pocketed, she isn't SUPER mobile (not too bad though). It just sounded like a bad time to me, especially with this strategy. I feel like Villager would just Pocket Dense Charge Shot. And I was thinking of raining standard bombs since they actually blow up before a year passes but your idea sounds cool too. Can he Pocket Morph Bombs?
Late? *looks at time* 1:52.... plebs im up till 5 AM.I'm not sure and I don't know how to reliably test it since I have a 3DS and there's no way for me to force the CPU to hang on the ledge and not get up. I think part of the edges of it does hit, but the issue is this: it's not a Burst or Gravity Grenade. It won't kill and I don't think ZSS Electromagnetic Net kills either. Falco and ZSS might end up chipping damage with this which for Falco and ZSS, it might be better for them to use Burst Blaster and Blaster Shot instead, especially ZSS since Electromagnetic Net doesn't have that much range compared to Falco's Explosive Blaster - he can stand about a third of FD and away from Villager - and Sheik's Burst Grenade and customs.
Accele-Reflector could do something with Lloid Rockets since it speeds up projectiles, but the drawback is little knockback and damage with the move itself.
And on an unrelated note: Is Falco shorter in this game? He seems so or it's because in Brawl he was a bit skinnier while he seems more stockier or muscular in this game. And his boots seem thicker in this game... See this is what happens when you're bored and up late.
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yes he can but you can plant another one. plus that means he cant pocket your charge shot witch is a very good thing.
Giant hammer does 25+ damage and having armor as well while charging so Kirby can sit and wait for the regrab. Given it can walk through Lloyd just fine and it can hit for 40. Not that it isn't vulnerable to mixing up timing...since you commit to the swing and are vulnerable doing it, but it feels like there is enough options in the game that this will dissolve.
hes pretty similar to luigi just with no grab shinanigans and possibly stronger combo game. iv seen some crazy things off that puff ball.
How does Diddy consistently kill at 60%? Only way I could think of killing someone at that percent is uairing someone right near the ceiling on a stage like Delphino or Halberd.
this happens on battle field, smash ville and town and diddy. diddy has alot of good stages for him bro.
Could you explain the specific kill confirm that let's him consistently kill on these stages, because I don't know what it is
u throw aint really di able in any percent range its what makes it a reatarded throw but any who you kinda on the ball with the high plat form things man.
I think Kirby is still probably easily camped even with customs, but Jumping Inhale and Upper Cutter solve some of his big problems pretty handily. Jumping Inhale being a threat in neutral, and Upper Cutter being a good recovery move and KO confirm option.
Uthrow-uair is only guaranteed up until around 80% depending on the character. If it's not DIable at lower percents than I don't know why pros still bother with dthrow at all.
One attack that is non-spammable, punishable, and cannot kill/combo/etc cannot counter a character all on its own. This is hyperbolic. Matchups are complex and not, especially in Smash 4's case, decided by one trick. I could go on, but players are not mindless and can adjust to certain attacks that are strong against their character. When it starts to make a large difference (ie "counter" as is freely tossed around too often by many people), is when the negatives outweigh the cons even after adaptation and counterplay has evolved.
well it brings the opponent to high at low percents and they can only get one u air instead of 2 garenteed.
Dthrow uair is DIable from as low as 30% (possibly lower, but I haven't seen it be DId any loweer than 30). Diddy can still get a fair out of it though.
uthrow-uair kills a handful of characters before 80% so that sounds fine. Fox is a bad example due to lightweight fastfaller, but it kills Fox at ~60% depending on rage. On FD. Watching Larry vs Tyrant's Diddy dittos, they were constantly uthrow-uair killing each other around 70-80%.
perhaps but challenging boomboom bay balloons can be well, challenging.
Why is Falco so low? In a customs environment, he gets a disjointed attack with decent damage and knockback that still thwarts projectiles (Reflector Void), an invincible side special that makes him more difficult to gimp (Falco Phase), and an up special that similarly makes him harder to gimp (discontinued Pontiac sports car). Getting gimped has always been a weakness of Falco's, I think it getting patched should mean a lot more. Additionally Falco has amazing standard attacks, which should place him at least in the middle tier.Someone asked me for my latest tier impressions, so I thought I'd post it here. Not many changes (several tiny shifts), though I am putting Diddy above Sheik. (I still think they are roughly equal--I'm just choosing to defer to the majority opinion rather than grandstand.)
Also finally letting customs Zelda move up a tier, though remaining the worst character in the game. Phantom Strike punishing air dodges is what pushed me over the edge.
1v1, no customs, ordered within each level:
1v1, customs, ordered within each level--each level relative to the above:
Moves up 4 tiers relative to a no-customs list:
Moves up 2 tiers relative to a no-customs list:
Moves up 1 tier relative to a no-customs list:
question. who is he better than?
This is actually also preferable not to have a hitbox on your recovery when dealing with balloons as they will automatically edgeguard when something pops them. Linear recoveries that rise with a hitbox like Marth, Mario and Shulk will get stagespiked or sent up and away from the stage repeatedly.
Do you mean overall or matchup-specific? If the latter then he beats (Dr.) Mario, Charizard, and R.O.B. I only know those characters out of experience; Falco's metagame is moving very slowly, any other character I could list would be an assumption based on theory.
Personally, I don't think tier placements are important in early tier lists. Falco might deserve the spot you mentioned, but until he shows his prowess, he is currently a non factor in the meta game, which justifies his tier placement as of now. The same could be said about a lot of characters, but you have to start somewhere. If this was an official tier list, it might motivate Custom Falco users to show them their moves.
Howso? I'd think that free strings up to 50-60 and then kill setups from there would make it quite hard to counterpick you. His ground mobility is pretty great, he's got awesome rolls...
I've heard that Villager (and would assume that Rosalina) screws him over pretty hard, because he has to actually get in on opponents to be good, and fireballs don't help that much there.
muhwahahaha, Swordfighter gains another spot upwards, soon he will be top tier.Someone asked me for my latest tier impressions, so I thought I'd post it here. Not many changes (several tiny shifts), though I am putting Diddy above Sheik. (I still think they are roughly equal--I'm just choosing to defer to the majority opinion rather than grandstand.)
Also finally letting customs Zelda move up a tier, though remaining the worst character in the game. Phantom Strike punishing air dodges is what pushed me over the edge.
1v1, no customs, ordered within each level:
1v1, customs, ordered within each level--each level relative to the above:
Moves up 4 tiers relative to a no-customs list:
Moves up 2 tiers relative to a no-customs list:
Moves up 1 tier relative to a no-customs list:
Isn't O.T Hawk actually considered quite good now in SSF2T? I recall he had some shenanigans where he could repeatedly tick you with his command grab or something.
This is a Smash Bros specific problem, but yes, it's why mobility is generally so strong in this series. This is why I feel that heavies need throw combos, because they can do those (how they get the grab is still an issue).
If you're talking about SF4, I'm pretty sure the only good thing about T Hawk is Condor Spire. There was some Japanese T.Hawk at some majors last year who shook things up a bit, but yeah, the character doesn't seem that strong. Maybe he got better in Ultra, but no one really plays him.
This is obviously a problem, but it's something that can be fixed.
Yup.
For a character like Ganon, you really should not be able to let him get more than 2-3 openings and live. I feel that if you have over 60% damage and he lands Flame Choke, you should be dead (maybe unless you're Bowser or something, who might be just heavy enough to survive it).
I have been advocating him getting a projectile for a long time. Really, he should have been the one to get the move that works like how Gordos work now, since he's famous for projectiles that can be hit back at him.
I'll give my thoughts:
Luigi's ground mobility is far from great (same run speed as Ike) and his air mobility is awful. Poor speed + poor range = able to get walled out. Add in his traction issues, which makes some things safe on block, and a bad dash attack (not unusable, but still bad). His saving grace in neutral is his fireballs, PP/pivot jump canceled up smash, and crawl.
What do you think of Up B's for Mega Man vs. Extreme Tripping Villager? Having the strong recovery via Beat sounds nice, but being able to drop big fat Tornado Holds next to the ledge has its own appeal.
I think DAir hitting through ebt and spiking Villager is enough of an answer. Not to mention shielding at the ledge, which everyone can do.
