Character Competitive Impressions

[Spinosaurus]

I for one welcome our new custom overlords.

Custom Mega Man

 

[ParanoidDrone]

Looking forward to interesting discussions on customs after this tourney finishes.

 

[RobinOnDrugs]

Oh man, that edgeguarding and setups by Mega Man though.

 

[Road Death Wheel]

We also gotta talk about that serious adapting from mike there.

 

[ParanoidDrone]

And the implications of something I've known academically for a while but never really seen the implications of until now:

Kirby always copies the default neutral special.

In a customs environment, the opponent's choice of custom can impact whether it's worth Kirby's time to try and copy the opponent. MikeKirby made good use of Metal Blade to outrange Shadow Blade from game 2 on.

 

[Road Death Wheel]

And the implications of something I've known academically for a while but never really seen the implications of until now:

Kirby always copies the default neutral special.

In a customs environment, the opponent's choice of custom can impact whether it's worth Kirby's time to try and copy the opponent. MikeKirby made good use of Metal Blade to outrange Shadow Blade from game 2 on.

for the most part though kirby finds grabbing a projectile worth it in general.

 

[NachoOfCheese]

So wait, is there anyone that's supposedly the Diddy of Customs right now? I feel like some people think it's Palutena, others say DK, and now it might be Megaman or something. Is it too early to tell?

 

[Nu~]

So wait, is there anyone that's supposedly the Diddy of Customs right now? I feel like some people think it's Palutena, others say DK, and now it might be Megaman or something. Is it too early to tell?

People are just hyped in general lol. No one is diddy tier yet with customs, way too early.

 

[Quickhero]

So wait, is there anyone that's supposedly the Diddy of Customs right now? I feel like some people think it's Palutena, others say DK, and now it might be Megaman or something. Is it too early to tell?

We don't really know tbh, not only is this way too soon to tell, but the hype is clouding our minds as well. So many characters are really good and fun to see man.

 

[Road Death Wheel]

Watching this wft reminds me that her mobility specs are really damn good. decent run speed and actually high air speed plus good air traction is insane and with customs she can actually utilize those propeties. its awsome.

 

[Plain Yogurt]

Yo people kept talking about how Jumbo Hoops made WFT a character but I don't think John Numbers used it once.

 

[NachoOfCheese]

People are just hyped in general lol. No one is diddy tier yet with customs, way too early.

But I know that you know about custom fruit shenanigans >

 

[HeroMystic]

Everything at this point is still new and impressive, so we can't say anything yet.

That said, WFT looks really formidable.

 

[Sodo]

But I know that you know about custom fruit shenanigans >

Freaky Fruit is one of the only customs I have and I think it's my favorite. Gives Pacman a deadly gimmick, and forces the opponent to observe you and the fruit.

 

[Plain Yogurt]

God I'm in a love/hate relationship with how obnoxious customs Villager is. Trip Sapling can be downright brutal and edgeguarding them just became more impossible.

 

[Antonykun]

God I'm in a love/hate relationship with how obnoxious customs Villager is. Trip Sapling can be downright brutal and edgeguarding them just became more impossible.

just remember that MM don't give flips about Counter timber and D-air can hit villager without you getting hit by EBT

 

[thehard]

Doesn't matter, monkeys climb trees

 

[Plain Yogurt]

I'm wondering if GTS should have grown the tree to wall Diddy's projectiles a little. Got camped hard there.

 

[Nu~]

But I know that you know about custom fruit shenanigans >

Boy do I...
Pac-Man + legitimate kill confirms in the form of freaky cherry and strawberry =
Instant hydrant launch with freaky melon z drops.
All the edgeguards/ledgeguards!
Lazy Galaxians that break shields!!
Crazy fruit trajectories with the hydrant water and boomerang hydrant tosses with the strawberry?!


It's going to be amazing

 

[Smog Frog]

dong cyclone successfully expanded


windboxes are ********

 

[Road Death Wheel]

dong cyclone successfully expanded


windboxes are ********

That match brought back the come up levels of hype.

 

[thehard]

Pretty sure that was because WFT was holding down during the Cyclone

 

[NachoOfCheese]

DK: the clearly superior Kong XD

 

[Cenizas]

nice profile picture

This guy knows what's up.

Anyway, I'd like to say that I think R.O.B. has the potential to be a contender in the top 10-15 in a customs environment. His third up-b makes follow-ups off his throws absolutely bonkers, as well as improving his ability to chase offstage. Infinite Robo Beam has the capability to stuff a lot of approaches combined with the gyro being out to stop people from coming after you on the ground. He already has great aerials and smashes. The most enticing factor to his customs though is that he can 0-death the majority of the cast with d-throw followed by a series of up-airs, now that he has the air speed to chase and combo into it. I truly believe that a skilled, dedicated R.O.B. main will be able to reasonably pull this off in a professional setting if he's good enough at reading airdodges and DI. R.O.B. gets a gigantic boost in mobility (while airborne at least), better defensive game, and combos so dumb that it would put Diddy's hoo-hah to shame.

Thoughts?

 

[19_]

GOOD LORD THAT ROSALINA WAS HORRIFYING

 

[HeroMystic]

We need to talk about customs Rosalina.

We all thought she'd be weaker in a customs environment but she just gets immensely more powerful with Luma warp.

 

[Plain Yogurt]

THAT is the character I was envisioning when Rosalina was revealed. Setting things up with Rosalina into Luma finishes. Holy crap that was cool.

 

[Road Death Wheel]

GOOD LORD THAT DABUZ WAS HORRIFYING

fixed

 

[Ffamran]

I just wondered this, but is there a character that gets worse with customs? I don't mean that other characters with customs outclass them, but I mean the options given make the character even crappier.

 

[Road Death Wheel]

I just wondered this, but is there a character that gets worse with customs? I don't mean that other characters with customs outclass them, but I mean the options given make the character even crappier.

.....





>

 

[HeroMystic]

I just wondered this, but is there a character that gets worse with customs? I don't mean that other characters with customs outclass them, but I mean the options given make the character even crappier.

Looking like Ness and Diddy Kong.

 

[|RK|]

I just wondered this, but is there a character that gets worse with customs? I don't mean that other characters with customs outclass them, but I mean the options given make the character even crappier.

Pikachu?

 

[Plain Yogurt]

I just wondered this, but is there a character that gets worse with customs? I don't mean that other characters with customs outclass them, but I mean the options given make the character even crappier.

PK Freeze is a straight downgrade from PK Flash for Ness. Moves at the exact same speed except it freezes instead of killing.

 

[Quickhero]

I just wondered this, but is there a character that gets worse with customs? I don't mean that other characters with customs outclass them, but I mean the options given make the character even crappier.

None at all, because giving every character in the game more options can no way directly nerf anyone, it can only help a character become better, not worse. At the VERY LEAST, custom moves provide a niche move that can work in a specific match-up.

 

[Ffamran]

.....





>

Reflector Void... DAMMIT! IT'S NOT A BLACK HOLE AND CAN'T EAT LUMA! FRICK! *goes back to the drawing board*

Zelda was considered to have customs that make her even worse, but the Zelda boards figured out that they work decently. I'm talking about if a say, Mario's customs just bad him even worse like a weaker version of Side Smash for a custom Neutral instead of Fast Fireball, a "shotgun" FLUDD instead of Scalding FLUDD, or an ground-only Super Jump Punch instead of Explosive Jump Punch which makes his recovery even worse and works like a crappier version of Dr. Mario's Super Jump Punch.

 

[Plain Yogurt]

Actually I know I just trashed on it, but can you mash out of ice? Cause if you can't PK Freeze could actually lead to some setups with solid timing.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

And this is why we don't ban Kong Cyclone. Because DK is still not a good character.

 

[Quickhero]

And this is why we don't ban Kong Cyclone. Because DK is still not a good character.

So DK is bad because a player makes it to Winners Finals, shows CLEARLY what DK with custom moves can pull off and how much better he has been, but starts going on tilt and loses?

 

[Mr. Johan]

Jigglypuff doesn't really gain anything in customs. Maybe Pound Blitz? Sideways Pound has a bit too much endlag tacked on to it, her two Rest customs are situational, her Sing customs are worthless, Raging Rollout is begging to be jumped over, and I don't know what to make of Relentless Rollout.


1111 Diddy proving to be the best custom set so far though.

 

[Ffamran]

I haven't heard much on Sonic's customs aside from Hammer Dash getting mentioned from time to time.