Ness has a 60-40 Match up against MK I don't know why it says 70-30....
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=188116
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=188116
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technically mario has the advantage over him then but w/e. and danGR, add in for mario onto the chart as a high advantage over ganon and falcon. mario combos them to heck and gimps them easily. mario also has the advantage over ROB though its slight.Sonic was agreed 55:45.
That's neutral >_>
Good ideaBtw guys, I'm not updating until after the new tier list comes out. (Jan 5th supposedly) It'll take a while to reorder everything.
Grab Releases **** Meta Knight.bowser vs metaknight yellow
lol?
If that explains why it's yellow, then I suppose Ike and DK and Ganon and DDD and all the other heavy-hitters are even with Meta Knight.Grab Releases **** Meta Knight.
Bowser's KO Power ***** Meta Knight.
Meta Knight is just ****.
You didn't see the grab release part.You really oughta have numbers instead of a color-coding system.
Every time I look at a match-up on the chart, I have to look at the color key.
Colors just don't make any sense. Use numbers so it can be understood more clearly.
If that explains why it's yellow, then I suppose Ike and DK and Ganon and DDD and all the other heavy-hitters are even with Meta Knight.
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I pretty sure you read the Snake matchups wrong. In their chart, the bottom number is what they put down. The top number is the opponent's matchup chart.I love this chart. Let's add some numbers agreed on both sides.
Falco / Snake : 55 / 45 or 50 /50. Even anyways.
Falco / DK : 60 / 40 on Falco Boards (discussed with DK mains), 55/45 on DK boards...
Falco / Fox : 55 / 45.
Falco / Wolf : 60 / 40. (Wolf boards have 50:50... yeah ok). Anyways it's not a big advantage anymore.
Falco / Pit : 55/45.
I could give you a lot more, on Ganondorf by example, but the match-ups are not completely agreed on both sides yet.
This is incredible. How long have you been keeping up with it? And are you using the matchup threads I've got listed in the OP?Did this for own purposes, figured may as well post it.
Left side is Character Boards, top is discussed characters. So if you go down to Lucas, then right to Diddy, you get what the Lucas boards rated the Lucas vs. Diddy match. But down to Diddy and right to Lucas gives you the Diddy vs. Lucas match as determined by Diddy boards. The number on the left is always the character on the left, number on the right is top character. Blank spaces means that board didn't have a ranking for that character. Some places didn't use good ol' ratios so I just used letters (a advantage, d disadvantage, capital for more emphasis). Alphabetical order (Using full names, not displayed), except PT's Pokemon are next to him, and Shiek is next to Zelda.
I made it yesterday, so it's pretty up to date.IThis is incredible. How long have you been keeping up with it? And are you using the matchup threads I've got listed in the OP?
Hum i just have to update falco's thread.I pretty sure you read the Snake matchups wrong. In their chart, the bottom number is what they put down. The top number is the opponent's matchup chart.
For consistency's sake, I can't put down the DK or Wolf v Falco matchup until they put their number down as well.
I looked at both the Falco and Fox matchup threads. Neither have 55-45 listed.
Thanks anyways.
Don't use that Mario thread. Hero pulled most of those numbers out of his behind. Well, he did use the matchup discussions as a reference, but they're only agreed upon by him. Keep to Boss's thred.I made it yesterday, so it's pretty up to date.
For threads, I just searched "Match" in each of the character boards and used the thread that is usually sticked or near the top. For the most part those are what you have linked (Ike and Link had crappy threads when I searched, so I used what you had linked).
After a quick check, I used all the threads you posted except for these characters.
Falcon - http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=204097
Ganon - http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=202473
Luigi - http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=190139
Mario - http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=212008
Pit - http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=212541
What's the point?Did this for own purposes, figured may as well post it.
Left side is Character Boards, top is discussed characters. So if you go down to Lucas, then right to Diddy, you get what the Lucas boards rated the Lucas vs. Diddy match. But down to Diddy and right to Lucas gives you the Diddy vs. Lucas match as determined by Diddy boards. The number on the left is always the character on the left, number on the right is top character. Blank spaces means that board didn't have a ranking for that character. Some places didn't use good ol' ratios so I just used letters (a advantage, d disadvantage, capital for more emphasis). Alphabetical order (Using full names, not displayed), except PT's Pokemon are next to him, and Shiek is next to Zelda.
This chart is way too helpful to fall off the front page.
Wait, ZSS mains agree that it's neutral?Agreed Neutral
ZSS
Wait, is Falco so overpowered that he wins a matchup he's not even playing in: Falcon vs Luigi?Is Luigi's disadvantage against Falcon really a 70/30 Falco's favor? (I heard it wasn't, but I culd be wrong).