Challenger Approaching!!! ROY!! .PAC UP!!!! 12/7/09 at 3:36 AM EST

leafgreen386 · Jun 2, 2009

Dark Sonic said:
No...Roy's terrible recovery is the only thing keeping him remotely balanced (that and we can't directly edit how high the up B goes, as that's an effect of the higher gravity we've placed on him).

This. If anything, I'd argue that it needs to be worse.

camelot · Jun 2, 2009

Guys, Roy's up-b + Ivysaur on WarioWare = LOL.

Rudra · Jun 2, 2009

Roy's probably one of Ivy's worst matchups with all of his Fire power lol

Steelia · Jun 2, 2009

timothyung said:
You really did a good job on the texture. More detailed than anyone else's.
But... palette swaps anyone?
We have a almost perfect Roy texture now, why not do palette swaps? It shouldn't be too time consuming.
And camelot, I remember you saying that his front hair can be shortened. You and Steelia can fix it to make Marth resemble Roy even more.

You see, his hair is a bit too long. Maybe you can try editing the hair, at least in the front, so that it looks really like Roy's.
I know that would take a bit of time, but you may want do it if you are a perfectionist.

W'ey... Trust me when I say I gave that a WHOLE lot of thought, timothyung... Unfortunately, the pieces of hair that can be made transparent on Marth all share similar pieces (such as the strands of hair on the front of his face). I effect one spiky strand, I effect a lot more than just that one.
Brawl people don't make it easy for us. );

camelot · Jun 2, 2009

Ivysaur flies farther than Jigglypuff against fire... it's a really bad part of his character design. Even a Counter can spell doom for him around 100%.

CloneHat · Jun 3, 2009

Playing with the latest codeset, I liked Roy a lot. Some iffy things, however, are the dtilt tip (I think you should be able to edgeguard with it like Marth's) and fsmash is really strong! Even at percents in the 50's, a small dtilt combo into fsmash will kill easily. Right now it kills at like 70-80, and I think it should be raised to 90 or something like that.

Dark Sonic · Jun 3, 2009

^^Learn to DI first...It doesn't kill at 70 unless they DI BADLY....

btw don't play Ivy against Roy on corneria or green greens (1HKO ftw).

CloneHat · Jun 3, 2009

Dark Sonic said:
^^Learn to DI first...It doesn't kill at 70 unless they DI BADLY....

btw don't play Ivy against Roy on corneria or green greens (1HKO ftw).

On higher courses, you can still combo him up, than finish off with a Blazer. :chuckle:

If the fire weakness isn't removed, Roy will be a near-impossible match for Ivy, especially on a small course.

VietGeek · Jun 4, 2009

You know...I might as well post these ridiculous Roy matches up. They use the June 2nd codeset.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhun-Sm58FA&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD6ye1tLAcw&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4rPBel3O9k&feature=channel_page

The latest Roy+ experience was definitely...something else.

|RK| · Jun 4, 2009

Is his counter still the most powerful? In Melee, it was 1.5 times the opponent's attack...

Mattnumbers · Jun 4, 2009

We need a texture hack that changes the light stuff on Roy's intro from yellow to red.

goodoldganon · Jun 4, 2009

RK Joker said:
Is his counter still the most powerful? In Melee, it was 1.5 times the opponent's attack...

I haven't found the variable that effects that yet, so right now it's just Marth's counter with fire.

CloneHat · Jun 4, 2009

Do you want to consider toning down the blazer, but giving it some KBG? If you want to use it as a killing move, you should have to use it to finish a high-% combo, not get weird gimp kills off the top at near-zero.

wazgood · Jun 4, 2009

why do the get up attack and grab attack have fire damage?

GHNeko · Jun 4, 2009

wazgood said:
why do the get up attack and grab attack have fire damage?

Becauase Roy has T3H PH1R3!111

bleyva · Jun 4, 2009

GHNeko said:
Becauase Roy has T3H PH1R3!111

so does falcon......why no cool PH1R3 FX for CF?

GHNeko · Jun 4, 2009

Roy has more fire than CF.

Than and Falcon has VA clips and the Knee. Stop being greedy for CF.

Plum · Jun 4, 2009

GHNeko said:
Roy has more fire than CF.

Than and Falcon has VA clips and the Knee. Stop being greedy for CF.

>_>
<_<

How about a completely greed driven request to give the Knee a YES! on connection?

/offtopic posts

goodoldganon · Jun 4, 2009

I_Am_Plum said:
>_>
<_<

How about a completely greed driven request to give the Knee a YES! on connection?

/offtopic posts

Not possible to swap sound effects like that. The YES! is tied the voice actor on the character, unlike my ability to make Roy's sword move do Fire damage and Fire noise. Make sense? It better cause it's time to get back on topic.

What do you guys think of Blazer? Too strong? I like the fact it doesn't grow and tilts matchups against lightweights in his favor.

Sudai · Jun 5, 2009

Mostly I just want to see a video of an Ivysaur getting Blazer bursted mid-match.

NinjaWizo · Jun 5, 2009

If I download the texture for Marth and the red sword effect, will the changes of Marth automatically be changed to Roy's changes?
Or do I have to change that, too?

~tgm_Zeej · Jun 5, 2009

NinjaWizo said:
If I download the texture for Marth and the red sword effect, will the changes of Marth automatically be changed to Roy's changes?
Or do I have to change that, too?

You'll have to replace the GCT in your codes folder with the Roy GCT.

Replacing his textures just gives you red swings and a texture hack

Raoh · Jun 5, 2009

can sound effects like Roy's voice be hacked in?

sorry if it was already asked but I don't want to skim through hundreds of posts.

Also IMO if there is going to be an official texture hack for him someone should try and disguise the hairband.

Deleted member · Jun 5, 2009

sound is not possible

also
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7508693&postcount=458

1 page back >_>

timothyung · Jun 5, 2009

I made a CSP of Roy using camelot and steelia's texture, feel free to use it.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=c6370da7b9b183952d795af968d2dd5c3ce51756b8b92a9ec95965eaa7bc68bc
EDIT
Fixed, perfect magenta, tested, working

CloneHat · Jun 5, 2009

timothyung said:
I made a CSP of Roy using camelot and steelia's texture, feel free to use it.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=c6370da7b9b183952d795af968d2dd5c3ce51756b8b92a9ec95965eaa7bc68bc
EDIT
Fixed, perfect magenta, tested, working

Cool, but can you post some quick steps on how to get that in? Thanks.

I think the blazer should only kill at higher percents, the KB lets you kill easily at very low percents.

timothyung · Jun 5, 2009

Google CUPASH.

crazycrackers · Jun 5, 2009

daaaaaaaaaaang...I used Roy today for the first time and he is pretty dam SICK on stage...seriously. It balances out with his trash recovery though XD

leafgreen386 · Jun 6, 2009

I figured I'd let everyone know that the speed mods being applied to roy's fsmash and usmash are screwed up in the current codeset (especially the usmash). We're gonna try to get a fix for that up in the next day or so. Expect a semi-nerfed roy from his current state.

camelot · Jun 6, 2009

Messed up how?

leafgreen386 · Jun 6, 2009

camelot said:
Messed up how?

Boot vbrawl and use marth's usmash. Note the amount of startup and endlag it has. Then boot the brawl+ roy set and use roy's usmash. Note the amount of startup and endlag it has. You'll quickly see the problem.

Roy's usmash was supposed to have much increased startup in exchange for much reduced endlag (same deal with fsmash except to a far lesser degree). Only the latter is actually being applied right now, though, causing the usmash in particular to be very spammable.

The_Blue_Bomber · Jun 7, 2009

Is anyone going to/currently transferring this into PAL?

I would really like to use this code because I loved Roy in Melee.

Kitamerby · Jun 7, 2009

GHNeko said:
Becauase Roy has T3H PH1R3!111

In that case while you're at it put it on his dair. Make it a fire spike. It'd be cooler that way.

Raoh · Jun 7, 2009

Make everything fire. Including his toe poke.

JCentavo · Jun 8, 2009

I know this is sort of irrelevant to this thread, but I decided to make his Melee portrait Brawl compatible:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mz01mnmmhzn

I'm not sure how the battle portrait will look in game because I'm not able to get it to show on my game.
Let me know if his battle portrait has like a pink outline so I can go back and try to fix it.

timothyung · Jun 8, 2009

There would be a pink outline because CUPASH only recognize perfect magenta as transparent.

JCentavo · Jun 8, 2009

His select screen portrait come out perfect for me.
I did the same method for his battle, so I think it'll come out the same.

timothyung · Jun 8, 2009

Your preview picture is misleading me.
I downloaded the tga and it seems fine

JCentavo · Jun 8, 2009

I didn't palette the preview pic to 72.
That's why.
Did his battle portrait come out right?

timothyung · Jun 8, 2009

Unfortunately, no.
The background isn't perfect magenta if you check it.
R:253 G:5 B:255
You are using GIMP right?
To fix that go to the windows of the toolbar, click the second option, click the sixth line
Find the non-perfect magenta, change the color to ff00ff
BTW you can use 240 colors for best quality

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