Challenger Approaching!!! ROY!! .PAC UP!!!! 12/7/09 at 3:36 AM EST

[Thany]

Whoo boy. Late reply...
Shame on me ._.

Anyway, SiLeNtDo0m, all I am doing currently is giving Roy
some much needed animation work (his old counter, stance,
unique taunts to replace Marth's up and side taunts, plus trying
to get his old one from Melee back).

(Seeing as how I think FitMotionEtc's can be applied to any Marth-PSA,
then you can use the animations I make with any Roy(Or Marth) PSA :3 )

However, after that, I'll most liklely help with Mr. Ryo's idea
to give him a greater difference than Marth(Luigi-fying him?)

(Though, as it stands All I know how to do is animations,
and I'm not exactly sure if, sans the extensive FS idea, he's got
more moveset changes in mind)

*goes to work on the UpTaunt animation*

 

[Ryo242]

http://projectm.smashmods.com/characters.php?character=marth

I see they finished their Shield Breaker and a range upgrade... Ask em if they can spare some of the coding (or explain it) so it can be applied to Roy.

 

[Shadic]

It's all animation, no coding.

 

[Thany]

Excellent.

Just means we'll need their;

SpecialNStart.chr0 (Start up for the attack)
SpecialNLoop.chr0 (Looping charging animation)
SpecialNEnd.chr0 (The actual attack, as well as returning to his regular stance)

And I assume they've made the aerial version as well, so also their;

SpecialAirNEnd.chr0 (Aerial startup)
SpecialAirNLoop.chr0 (Aerial looping charge up)
SpecialAirNEnd.chr0 (Aerial...Attack...I already said it, just put "aerial" in front of it ^_^')

Conversely, asking them for the full FitMarthMotionEtc.pac should net us all 6 animations
with one stone.

...Uhh...I don't suppose someone else might be able to play the "Go-fer" to grab this from them?
I've gotta prepare for two consecutive appointments, for two consecutive days -_-'

...Otherwise, I'll inquire on Friday when I'm free, if no one else has...
(Would I just register on the Project M site and ask around, or can I contact someone from here/
Kitty Corp about it?)

 

[standardtoaster]

Thany, the Project M demo will be released early February. You could get the animations then.

 

[Shinn`]

God I hope Project M just includes Roy...it's just not melee without my main. :<

 

[mariomariofan]

man i miss the good old melee roy

 

[Thany]

Same.
I mean...When I finally saw the leaked Brawl Roster, I was staring dead at it for...
...
Like, so long I can't even recall.

Everyone where I lived said that Ice Climbers, Game & Watch and Young Link
would be gone.
I was sad to think of my favourite incarnation of Link being removed,
but Roy came as a complete shock. (Puff's Blue ribbon, too. ;_; They really
know how to kick me when I'm down...Especially because I'm not too fond
of IC's or Mr.G&W ;_;...Anyways...)

I'd be alright playing regular, non-hacked, not so fun(IMHO) Brawl if Roy were legitimately
in the game...
(I'm not a hard person to please...Except for when it comes to recreating my hero.)

However, after an ORGASMIC taste of B+, I will NEVER go back.(P:M looks pretty promising, too :3)

Anyway, I bring good progress news! :D

Progress Point #1

One Mr.Wave Kusanagi is going to be helping with editing the .pac so we can have the old animations
of Marth back for the 3 victory animations, the B move, and the down taunt.

"What? But then he'll be like Marth even MORE!"
"Thany, you dimwit!"
"Get back in your shame corner!"

Ow...That hurts... ;_;

Wait for it.
...
.....
......
By restoring him as such, then when we overwrite those aforementioned animations
with Roy's...

They will ACTUALLY show up in game.

B WILL be Flare Blade, (when I gain access to P:M's Marth ^_^)

Down Taunt will be editable into his Melee one,

I'll finally shut up about this hurdle,
see? Everybody wins! ;Dc

Progress point # 2

Well, ages ago on my old comp I made custom stock icons for Roy and the other
4 characters that didn't quite make it to Brawl by normal means.(Personally, I likes
my Mewtwo ones the best :3)

Well, since then, using this comp I realized the colours looked SOOO horrible that I re-did
them. Made a few more for the heck of it, too.(To give you an idea, what I saw as black
on the old comp ends up a dark olive green colour on this one : / Oh Windows 98...
You ole' crazy thing.)

Official colours:

Default

Red

Blue

Green

Gold

Dark

Some I made for fun:

Mr.R (No one's made a Mr.L of Roy yet? Wow...)

Corrupt Roy

Roy as Marth (Saw this texture on the BrawlVault before X-mas, but it's gone now I think...)

Progress Point #3
Edited a few more animations, but nothing too big. These ones are mostly
for Mr.Ryo's Roy idea.
...Pics sometime later. Kinda forgot to get 'em off m' Wii ^_^'

Progress point #4
Well. I somehow managed to teach myself how to texture hack.
Whether this can help with Roy or not, who knows.
...
But Roy V2 needs recolours, methinks. Preferably in the style of Pik's
brawlified Roy textures from the Isaac-hair days. ;3

I may...Do something about that...Heh heh >w>

 

[Xinc]

judging by the page, we're now talking about P:M Roy?

 

[Thany]

I'm not so sure anymore...
*losing focus*

Hey! I just got the "okay" from BeyondYou and Pik to make recolours
of BY's RoyV2 using Pik's Brawlified textures! Whoo!

*gonna be fixing those up a bit for a while*
(I have the Red and Green ones edited to fit the BY Roy :D)

SNEAK PEAK TIME!

Aside from the default, the Green Costume was always a favourite
of mine. Not sure why though <:3

 

[mariomariofan]

cant wait for the recolours

 

[Xis66]

sheathed sword?

Its been quite some time! Glad this is still being worked on, thanks Thany. I didnt think anyone had more FanRoyism than me. I been lurkin and checkin back every now and then over th past couple month hoping that by the time I got my Smash Bros entertainment system (My Wii) back Roy'd be even more awsome and complete. Great work guys (and girls)! Oh Did anyone else like the idea of the Idle sheathed sword stance Roy? Thought it was good concept.

 

[Thany]

@mariomariofan:
Almost done with the recolours, just fixing up a few things. Meager details,
but given my obsession, it's worth it ^w^

I also changed the eyes, as Marth's eyes ruin the illusion for me.

It took me awhile to put my finger on it, but the eyes are what make these Roys
not look like Roy to me. So I made a little switcheroo. Hah hah ^w^'

(Also going to make versions for the no-sheathe Roy, and the Marth-position
sheathe Roy. I use the one that's on his belt's back :3

...Now if I only knew how to use mediafire... ._.')

@Xis66:
Thanks :3
I am the self proclaimed ultimate fan girl for a reason, y'know ;3

Also, I'd prefer his Melee idle.(Melee everything, really...*fsjal face*
Except textures. They just look out of place in Brawl, to me.
...Gaudy is a word that comes to mind, given the dark, cold graphical
feel Brawl has.)

The sheathed sword is an interesting idea, and a nice throwback to FE 6...

...But having his sword out at all times strikes me as the wiser thing to do in
the midst of combat, however ^_^'

(But if the P:M Roy doesn't have unique taunts, I'mma try to make one be like his
FE6 sword attack :3
...Sorta. Just more taunt-y.)

Also kinda makes more sense to shield with his sword, unlike Marth who...Tries to
use his dainty lady-wrists to deflect enemy blows... heh heh ^_^'

*resumes texture fiddlin'*

EDIT V2:
Got the recolours done on all three versions of RoyV2
(No sheathe, Marth position sheathe, and back sheathe)
And I'm including Marth's normal and FS eye textures so you can all
have the option of using it instead of the Melee-ified eyes.

I have made edits to each texture(default as well) to fix up the inconsistencies
that occurred when trying to paste the unedited textures onto this Roy.

(Like having the "furry" parts of Roy's gloves be the colour they should be
instead of skin colour, fixing up Blue and Gold's headband, making the newly
added plate of Roy's body armor be more accurately textured, fixing up
his tunic so it no longer has that plate drawn on it, as well as fixinf the cape
emblem on the Dark costume. It was Marth's emblem before, so I copied the
emblem texture from either the Red or Gold costume.)

...Should be able to put these on Brawl Vault in a few days, I hope ^_^'
*still needs help learning mediafire*

 

[Shinn`]

Roy sound effects over Marth.

 

[Croi]

Oh hey, my schedule was cleared up recently, so I was literally just about to start that. Good thing I checked this thread first.

 

[Xis66]

Quik Question

been off the Brawl hack scene for a min. I'm putting Piks Roy on but I was wondering how do I get the latest or best Roy move set considering i need the pac for the hair? my goal is to use the most up to date Roy and everyone elses keep up th good work. I really wish I had a computer to work on this... :/ Keep our Boy alive!

 

[Thany]

Roy's got his voice back?

YESZ!

(Um...Can someone help me with the voice files things?
I downloaded the Roy voice from BrawlVault, but I haven't
the faintest clue what to do with any of these things ;_


@Xis66

The Isaac-hair Roy is a thing of the past, my friend :3

I believe the .pac for Roy I use is this one:

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=8428

(I only use its .pac, I don't use its model or textures. My Roy .pac has automatic
L canceling on all aerials, and it's not the V3 with Melee physics, so I'm certain
that I use this one...)

As for the textures I use, I've made some touch ups to BeyondYou's
RoyV2 and even taken Pik's brawlified recolours and carefully ported them
on RoyV2 so they fit perfectly :3
(They required quite a bit of of touching up...Had to fit on a newer model afterall.)

...But I can't upload those yet as I...Don't know how to use mediafire, and am
COMPLETELY technologically ********... ;_;
(Plus it is believed that I have some degree of a learning disability, hence my
trouble with reading long, drawn out text-y instructions ;_; ...Might actually
be an attention prob-MOTH! *moth flies by* :3c *gives chase* Wheee! :D )

 

[Xis66]

Hmmm

Ok so as of now Pik and Beyondyou's textures /vertexs's are the most up to date but what about move set? I don't want my Brawlified Boy runnin around using Marths stabby thing. I cant seem to load up Piks Roy with a moveset. Anyone help. Oh and I also agree that he should be an updated (was never cut from the roster in the first place and jus got modified to keep frome being a Marth ditto) "Brawl" Roy.

 

[Xis66]

NVM I had a dumb moment...or two. Don't look at my like that. :o

 

[Ryo242]

Project M demo released with the new Marth. Will work on getting an upload of it tonight unless someone beats me to it.

Just enough time to...

http://www.mediafire.com/?9u6x599264ivvbh
PAC

http://www.mediafire.com/?7dfji4pi381i41w
MOTIONETC

Both needed I'm sure..

Edit: Fixed

 

[GHNeko]

 

[Xis66]

The PAC and Motion etc are the same download and whats the diff with this one?

 

[Xis66]

Up B

Not sure if this was ever brought up again but Roy's Up B goes a but more horizontal than Marth's in Melee. You can hold over to make it go more length than height apposed to Marth's fast and high Up B. I'm all for a new Brawl Roy but this was one of my saving graces in times of need wondering is anyone else was lookin into it.

 

[Ryo242]

I'm sorry, I like this picture.

Essentially it's so we can alter this existing build to get a Melee-esque Roy, since they have the same animations it would only be just altering the weight, hit boxes, effects, trajectories etc..


>__>; And ultimately steal that Neutral B for Flare Blade.

Edit:

The issue of his Blazer was brought up a few pages back, I think someone mentioned how to fix the angle he can travel.

 

[Magus420]

*Is the guy that spent 2 days making that animation from scratch in the old BBox before drag n drop animating*

=D


And yeah the angle on up-b is changing a single float

If you open his .pac in a hex editor, the angle capacity special float for up-b is at: 0x24300. The default for Marth is 20° (41A00000). Roy's float for this in his melee file is 40° (42200000).

 

[Shinn`]

Roy sound effects over Marth V1.5

 

[Thany]

FINALLY got the recolours uploaded to the Brawl Vault...
(Well...It's pending approval, but it looks like it's up for
download, sooo... :3c )

No sheathe Roy
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=16624&Moderated=All&facebook=true

Side Sheathe Roy(Who has an oddly Marth-y face for some reason...Hrmm...)
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=16625&Moderated=All&facebook=true

Back sheathe Roy
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=16627&Moderated=All&facebook=true


Yeah. Enjoy, companions ^w^

(Sexy Flare Blade by the way, Magus ;D)

Also, can anyone help me with Roy's sounds?

I did everything exactly to add his sounds over Marth's in the
BRSAR thing, but he still sounds like Marth ;_;
...And the announcer says "Marf"...
...And the crowd cheers"MARFMARFMARF" ever so gratingly, still ;_;

*whips out notepad instructions*

SAWNDZ replacemtn

1.BACK UP FILES!
2.smashbros_sound.brsar goes in Sawndz folder
3.Go into replacements folder and rename the
"sound #.wav" that you wanna convert to "sound.wav"
4.Move "sound.wav" file in the sawndz folder
5.Start up Sawndz.exe
6.CLick "LOAD" in the "SAVE" section
7.Search the "replacements" folder for the
corresponding "character sound#.dat" file and load.
8.Press "convert & insert"
9.Remove "sound.wav" from folder

10.REPEAT UNTIL MARTH SOUNDS LIKE ROY!

11.ENJOI~

Admittedly, I added step 10 and 11 ^_^'

But he still isn't very Roy-like voice-wise...

Did I put it in the wrong folder? Name it something wrong?

It's in my Root>private>wii>app>RSBE>pf>sound

It's called: smashbros_sound.brsar

Help plz ;_;

 

[ds22]

You need to Riivo/ISO hack the BRSAR file to make it work.
Sadly the FPC doesn't support BRSAR files.

Nice recolors BTW.

 

[Ryo242]

Yep, Riivolution is how I'm getting my Japanese voices into Brawl. Namely Ike's...

Anyway there's a nifty guide to help you use Riivolution (basically the same way you are using the File Replacement Code on your SD card and whatnot)

http://allisbrawl.com/forum/topic.aspx?id=144811

Keep up the good work. :3

Okay, now for the major thing: Do these textures desync WiFi?

 

[Thany]

I'll have to try that Riivolution thing, then :3

And thanks for enjoying the textures ^w^
Which, since yesterday morning when I uploaded them, at this
time now have a combined total of 60 Downloads! Yay!
(Back sheathe Roy's recolours are a pretty popular choice ^w^)

As for the Wi-Fi issue, I'm completely uncertain of it.
While I ~am~ the most obssesed Roy fangirl I've
ever seen...
...I kinda have a vendetta against Wi-Fi...Eheh heh heh ^_^'
(AKA, I have no clue ^_^''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''')

 

[Ryo242]

We need someone to volunteer to check if they desync.. Namely just use them a bunch online.

Did you happen to rename any of the bones/delete/add etc etc..? If not, then they should work fine. If so, then there will probably be issues...

 

[Thany]

Nary a bone was meddled with by yours truly ^_^
(I have no idea how to do that anyway. Eheh heh ^_^'''''''''''''')

 

[MonkUnit]

May want to update the Roy files or something. Topic title says it hasn't been changed wince 12/7/09.

 

[Thany]

Ah...

Goodoldganon hasn't been around here for a while, I guess...
(Would he need to be the one to change it, or is there a way that say...
I could take control of this topic? >:3 8)

Although, making those recolours and screwing up again and again with
the animations(What it displays in BB is NOT what shows up in-game half of
the time -_-) is pretty much all I've accomplished so far >_>'

(Then again, we also have access to better Roys now, too. I guess
that counts for something ^w^)

EDIT:Happy Valentine's Day~! <3 <3 <3

 

[Xis66]

Ugh

Its funny how valintines day's initials are VD. Anywho, so are ganna leave the whole Up B thing alone because not only does it normally go more horizontal than "Marf's" it can be made to go even further if needed by holding left or right. This was Ideal for recovery and distant gimp recovery defenses. If we're trying to replicate a Brawlified Roy this would be nice.

 

[Wolfric]

Thany, make a new thread, and let this one die.

 

[Thany]

Alrighty then.
I'll start a new Roy topic in a day or two.
(Once I figure out what the OP should be...I figure it should contain the
same things as this one, but with updated pics, and maybe a list of what
needs to be done on him or something ^_^')

Farewell, old Roy topic~

You had a good run, but now it is time to pass this fight
to the next generation...(Eeee! Now I feel like Celice from FE 4 :3c )

 

[Xis66]

Plz

When we finaly make the move to new thread Thany we should have links on 1st page to 1. THIS thread (and it should be closed too) Current state of Roy and Work in progress list (obviously ) Oh and before this threads completly left a link to new thread to help all the new Royos find out where we are

 

[Thany]

Delays, delays, delays.

Sorry about the delays, everyone.

I do have the edited .pac file, so Roy can have FlareBlade, and other animations.
...But I kinda wanted to try a few last-ditch efforts to give him some better animations...
(Plus fiddling with the .pac to change the Up B's angle to 40 degrees, a la Roy)

Stupid blue cat-fox is stupid... ^_^'

EDIT:
Keep in mind, what will be released is FAR from the finished product ^_^''''''

EDIT V2:

New topic! Download is available! Go here plz! :3c
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=298053