Dart
Smash Lord
i had this problem too...once i realized that he can't grab or get out of fthrow **** easily i started pwning him.
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- Thread starter Cactuar
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Nø Ca$h
Smash Champion
how do i increase my consistancy?
Tee ay eye
Smash Hero
use black marth and pretend that you're mew2king
wiitubeaccount
Smash Apprentice
lol i started doing that today it didn't quite work out.
Oh by the way, do all marth use jabs against spacies' up b like m2k? I only see vids of m2k doing that. Then usually following it up with counter, since the jab makes them up b from down low, and then proceed to offstage ****.
Fortress | Sveet
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why would you jab an upb? only sideb.
TheCrimsonBlur
Smash Master
When the spacie is recovering from a 45 degree angle from the ledge and you don't have enough time to run out and forward air, jab is the correct move. It covers the option of him going straight for the ledge and lets you recover fast enough to punish if he tries to land on the stage.
Fortress | Sveet
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dtilt is better in that situation, IMO
Niko45
Smash Master
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYm3GsMsfiI
2:30
Does anyone know why his regrab missed? I've read that you can't regrab Falco at 0 if they DI uthrow behind, but this was at 7%. I find myself missing regrabs at around this % all the time. Did he just regrab too late? Or does DI behind still escape til X%?
2:30
Does anyone know why his regrab missed? I've read that you can't regrab Falco at 0 if they DI uthrow behind, but this was at 7%. I find myself missing regrabs at around this % all the time. Did he just regrab too late? Or does DI behind still escape til X%?
Just Sexed
Smash Ace
Yeah jabbing up-b is dumb idea mostly.
you could try to just ftilt too.
very underrated move.
Nø Ca$h
Smash Champion
ftilt is extremely ****. comparing it to fsmash, it has faster come out and cool down. it has more horizontal range(if not the same range, AR it its true from what i hear), it reaches higher and lower. and lastly, it starts from the bottom and moves upwards.
so fsmash shouldnt really be used unless ur SURE it will hit.
so fsmash shouldnt really be used unless ur SURE it will hit.
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
what do i do when spacies dont approach me?
Dart
Smash Lord
tease them with that sexy dashdancing tiara...just try to bait them into letting you grab or poke them with your ***** sword
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
what if they just shoot lasers and space well? do i have to just run at them and fair?
Fortress | Sveet
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close the space and bait them into attacking.
Fortress | Sveet
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he was slow, thats all.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
thats what I do. the truth is, you gotta believe.
@also-how come nobody asks cactuar anything,
(directed at cactuar)
Fortress | Sveet
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Cactuar quit smash (supposedly)
He also hasn't played marth since ~07
He also hasn't played marth since ~07
Milos
Smash Lord
i mean he "officially" changed his main to fox but still plays a lot of different characters and his marth is still on par if not better than his fox.
but he doesnt play anymore
but he doesnt play anymore
Dart
Smash Lord
He must have saw that giant **** storm of puff ditto grand finals coming, and got out while melee was still fun to watch post winners/losers semis
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Yea, I hope I never get that good, to have to play puff dittos in grand finals
Nø Ca$h
Smash Champion
he didnt quit he just doesnt travel
well thats what he tells ppl
well thats what he tells ppl
Dark Sonic
Smash Hero
Dash in one direction. Simultaneously press the other direction and c-stick in the desired f-smash direction.
Easiest way to do it <_<.
Easiest way to do it <_<.
Fortress | Sveet
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false. easiest way to do it is actually with the A button.
Dash left, press right and A with the same timing as a pivot grab. So easy. Obviously mirror for the other direction
Dash left, press right and A with the same timing as a pivot grab. So easy. Obviously mirror for the other direction
PP beat HBox last weekend. :D
SwiftBass
Smash Hero
gettem DR PP
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
You can pivot fsmash in the same direction as your initial dash?
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
just running upsmash instead, it will advance the marth metagame.
Fortress | Sveet
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m2k has already done that one too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62h10S_enL4#t=1m6s
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
easiest is really an opinion. simplest maybe, just by least amount of actions.
I have difficulty using A for anything. But I can pivot just fine.
Grabs with Z, aerials with Z(bairs anyway) the rest with Cstick.
U know you can jab, dtilt, fmash, downsmash, usmash, utilt,ftilt using z. I crouch and while rising Z kinda acts like A. You just have to input the moves with a certain timing.
The trick behind pivot is that you cancel your dash animation by turning around on place.
You can also just cancel it and turn around while doing it, but that is really hard to get.
This means you can do every attack ouf of the pivot:
Jump + whatever,
Smashes,
Tilts,
anything else.
In reality a dash dance is just:
dash
dash gets canceld through the standing turning around animation
into another dash
during the red marked thing you can input every other kind of attacks
fsmash and also ftilt could be used in both directions, because you can turn around while doing them
if you do it this way "making a dash dance, but doing a jump or attack during the red colored phase" it gets easier to pull off pivot attacks/jumps/grabs
as explained before you could also just cancel the dash through the standing turn around animation and then stop and standing in place, but this is really hard to pull off, because you may not start dashing into the other direction
I can make a video soon if you want me to do so. ^^
You can also just cancel it and turn around while doing it, but that is really hard to get.
This means you can do every attack ouf of the pivot:
Jump + whatever,
Smashes,
Tilts,
anything else.
In reality a dash dance is just:
dash
dash gets canceld through the standing turning around animation
into another dash
during the red marked thing you can input every other kind of attacks
fsmash and also ftilt could be used in both directions, because you can turn around while doing them
if you do it this way "making a dash dance, but doing a jump or attack during the red colored phase" it gets easier to pull off pivot attacks/jumps/grabs
as explained before you could also just cancel the dash through the standing turn around animation and then stop and standing in place, but this is really hard to pull off, because you may not start dashing into the other direction
I can make a video soon if you want me to do so. ^^
Dark Sonic
Smash Hero
Sveet....the way I mentioned is so that you can f-smash in the same direction as the initial dash. By using the c-stick you can f-smash in either direction.
Really, using the c-stick for smashes in general (not that you'd need to pivot upsmash any time soon) is the easiest method because you can just hit the sticks simultaneously (something people are accustomed to doing in general). When you use the A button, your result will depend on where the control stick was at the time, making it less consistent.
Btw, there's always been one thing that bugged me. It's possible to do actions IN GENERAL in THE SAME DIRECTION as the initial dash right? I assume it would be something like
empty pivot (pivot stand) -> reverse "insert action here." Only problem is (to my knowledge) you can't reverse jump or reverse neutral B (on the ground). Maybe these two actions are not able to cancel the "turn around" animation like the others?
Meh, I'll probably never be technical enough to do this (but I can try. After all I can do pivot uptilts
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Fortress | Sveet
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While i agree ctick is better because you can pivot fsmash in either direction, i still disagree on it being easier to perform.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Smash DI will increase your chances of getting out the combo.
You want to try to increase the distance between your landing and the shine. Its hard to say because you may want to smash DI away from falco or if he has alot of horizontal momentum smash Di past him. Its situational, depends on when they dair, and their speed and direction.
If fox nairs you and then shines, you should be able to act immediately upon landing due to the fact that you were shined while airborne. But its not a bad Idea to give yourself some room and SDI the shine away.
SDI everything you possibly can, but make sure you learn which direction to SDI. If not, you'll just SDI your way into a death combo lol.
Niko45
Smash Master
I find that if you slight DI Fox up throws instead of full DI behind/away, the Fox has a tougher time landing the up air and SDIing it is much easier. Is there any merit to this or am I completely wrong?
I.B
Smash Lord
^ I partially agree.
I find it's really dependent on the Fox player. The more competent they are, the less it will matter where/how much you DI.
I find it's really dependent on the Fox player. The more competent they are, the less it will matter where/how much you DI.