Alright, Marth is on FD, he has full range on his grab game. I have no idea what do use with marth's grab game to get the most out of it. Help me figure this out.
I'll try to help the best I can!
First off, I know I can fthrow/dthrow puff into fsmash tipper at various percents. All I need to do is pick the right grab to throw off DI, then go into either a walking fsmash at lower percents or wavedash fsmash at higher percents. When does this stop working, and where is the point of stop walking and start wavedashing?
This works easily till around 30%, but here's a way to take it even farther till potentially later 80's.
F-throw -> pivot f-smash. Basically, practice throwing left -> dash left -> smash control stick right while smashing c-stick left. Learn to do it consistently and fluently, everytime you get a grab. And f-throw immediately to potentially throw off DI. Also learn how to do it in the throwing right direction; the hardest part is how unnatural it initially feels to smash the sticks in opposite directions at once.
Another hint: don't JC grab in this match-up. Learn the range on the dash grab so you can grab her crouching. Then f-throw -> pivot f-smash before they know wtf happened. XD
On shiek, Uthrow after lower percents into Utilt tipper chain is only escapeable by jump, and if that happens I can simply keep the Uair tipper chain going for pretty much into an edgeguard.
Since you hate tech-chasing, yes. Personally I like marth's tech-chasing game because it is guaranteed, but that is the jist of how to **** shiek from grab.
Falco and Fox I know there is something with Uthrows, Utilt, fsmash, edgeguard. But, at what percents and DI included I get befuddled over what happens.
F-throw falco once at 0%, otherwise u throw them both till ~20ish, then do something. By "do something," I mean pivot grab, m2k grab, down throw -> tap a reset, anything. This is their only chance to get out, because after this you u-tilt(do a reverse u-tilt after the "do anything" moment) into regrabs. When you think u-tilts knock them too high, u-air -> regrab, or just do it into a tipper f-smash.
Captain Falcon... I have no idea. If I Utilt below 50% he seems to be able to tech it and merely roll to escape it. After 50% I think I can Uthrow into Utilt chain and merely watching out for the jump. So pretty much anything before 50% I am not sure how to take advantage of it.
Reverse u-tilts work iirc. I also thought regular ones did as well, but meh. I prefer d-throw tech chase, again, but this works. Don't forget you have a 50% chance of KOing them if you d throw off the stage: run off and fair if they try to grab the ledge, or down b a fair or uair. They can jump backwards sometimes, so be prepared for that.
I really want to avoid tech chasing if I can.
You get 10x better if you can tech chase. I understand it's hard at first, but when you understand how the DD flows with his throws it becomes a mere rhythm.
