Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

[xLeafybug =D]

502's make me lol.

I'm too lazy to quote you on anything, you should know what I'm talking about.

Firstly, it's "THE BEST" secondary out there, not one of the best. BEST. Period.

Whenever I'm done visiting my brother, I'll turn on Y'old PS3 and give you my actual "Field Test" opinion of the Pistols.

How is the Raffca not as good as I make it out to be? It's probably better than how I make it out be, if anything.

-One of the most alluring factors about the pistols is their super-fast raise/drop time of 0.3/0.5 seconds. The M93 has a raise/drop of 0.6/0.5 seconds. They have the same drop time, and their raise time is twice as much. But in the end, that 2x raise time is such a truly minuscule number that it doesn't matter. I've never been caught switching to my M93.

-The M93 has a base damage of 40-30. The USP .45 and the M9 have a damage of 40-25, and the Magnum and the Desert Eagle have a damage of 55-35. Kind of a cross between the two damages. Whatever. Like every other burst weapon in the game, Stopping Power makes it a 1-burst at any range.

-The M93 has a bigger clip size than any of the pistols, holding 20 bullets per magazine. The only real contender to this is the M9, which hold 15. The USP holds 12, the Desert Eagle hold 8, the Magnum holds 6. You're most likely to be caught on the reload with the Handguns because of this fact alone.

-I can't say the M93 shoots faster than the handguns at the highest level, because the highest level is a rapid fire controller, and those will shoot faster than the burst fire of the M93. Rapid fire controllers are gay though.

-The M93 is a 3-shot burst gun. The handguns are not. I'm not going over this.

-I really don't like your analogy comparing the MP40 to the MP5. It's nothing like that. It's more like: "Why use the FAL when you can use the FAMAS/M16A4?"

I'm not saying that handguns are bad, I'm saying there's no reason to use them, because you're better of with the M93 in every possible situation. Statistically speaking, there is absolutely ZERO reason to use any the handguns, when the M93 does everything all of them do at least three times better. Using them is basically crippling yourself.

P.S.- Besides the AA-12 Ext. Mags and the M93, handguns are the only secondaries I really use, outside of Stingers, of course.

 

[Fletch]

Stuff

Leafy, I wanted to make this post you jerk. Dead on though.

Also, you should use the akimbo glocks once in a while just for the ****** factor.

 

[F8AL]

EDIT: Ignore this...

 

[PowerBomb]

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCpEmqmXJ9c

^ For all those that love the brokenness of MW2.

Treyarch, TAKE NOTES

 

[Master Xanthan]

If we can't compare them to the other guns in the game, we can say any gun is "good". Sure, you can definitely kill people with them and stuff, and they aren't totally useless, but there are basically no situations in which you wouldn't be better off with the M93, so that makes using them kind of pointless.

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCpEmqmXJ9c

^ For all those that love the brokenness of MW2.

That video is so good, mainly because everything in there actually happens a lot, lol.

 

[o-Serin-o]

He forgot lag.

And I loved that video.

 

[PowerBomb]

Do lag switches actually exist/work in MW2?

 

[Fuelbi]

Almost got a **** nuke today... match ended before I did. I was just literally sniping in rundown and all I got were Predator and Harriers (this was my friend's account)

I'm pissed off that the match ended though

 

[Delta-cod]

Do lag switches actually exist/work in MW2?

Oh god yes. It's unholy.

 

[O D I N]

Do lag switches actually exist/work in MW2?

It's everything that's wrong with this game.

Oh, and this too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCpEmqmXJ9c&feature=player_embedded

EDIT: So I'm a moron and I forgot I got this vid from this very thread. It's been an interesting sort of day. Sorry Fletch.

 

[BanjoKazooiePro]

Yeah, there are tons of lag switches in MW2. If you want a game that's even worse, though, go play GoW2. There's honestly a lag switch every other game I join, which is really disappointing because I love that game. Even though there are lots out there, it's less noticeable in MW2. I generally like MW2 because despite how some of the matches are, usually there's not all that much lag. Lag switches are so lame though, it's a ****ing game. The idea of having fun playing games is almost non existent nowadays.

 

[Fletch]

Almost got a **** nuke today... match ended before I did. I was just literally sniping in rundown and all I got were Predator and Harriers (this was my friend's account)

I'm pissed off that the match ended though

Why you using pred and harrier while going for a nuke?

 

[O D I N]

Yeah, there are tons of lag switches in MW2. If you want a game that's even worse, though, go play GoW2. There's honestly a lag switch every other game I join, which is really disappointing because I love that game. Even though there are lots out there, it's less noticeable in MW2. I generally like MW2 because despite how some of the matches are, usually there's not all that much lag. Lag switches are so lame though, it's a ****ing game. The idea of having fun playing games is almost non existent nowadays.

It's what I love about Bungie and their banhammer. They actually (for the most part) listen to their community and try to balance the game.

CoD is full of fail. Hard fail. I probably won't have this game for much longer. If you see me on CoD, hit me up. I'll probably play. If I'm not on CoD, assume I don't have it.

 

[Fuelbi]

I didn't mean to use those killstreaks, they were the only ones were unlocked at the time was Pred, Nuke and Harriers, as it was a fresh account.

And I wasn't GOING for a nuke, I just happened to be doing exceptionally well that match.

It ended something like 28-3-2 or something, and I only got like 5 or 4 kills before I started doing good

 

[Fletch]

I didn't mean to use those killstreaks, they were the only ones were unlocked at the time was Pred, Nuke and Harriers, as it was a fresh account.

And I wasn't GOING for a nuke, I just happened to be doing exceptionally well that match.

It ended something like 28-3-2 or something, and I only got like 5 or 4 kills before I started doing good

So then you unlocked Nuke before CG or AC130? I don't get it.

 

[Fuelbi]

So then you unlocked Nuke before CG or AC130? I don't get it.

Look, my friend already had those on and I didn't even know. Why did he pick Nuke first, I have no idea, but in Rundown apparently it's extremely easy to get many kills by just sniping and letting your harriers do most of your work for you, ok?

 

[RuNNing Riot]

It's what I love about Bungie and their banhammer. They actually (for the most part) listen to their community and try to balance the game.

CoD is full of fail. Hard fail. I probably won't have this game for much longer. If you see me on CoD, hit me up. I'll probably play. If I'm not on CoD, assume I don't have it.

Well, if it's any cosolation, Treyarch did hand out punishments to boosters in WaW.

Though inevitably Bungie is indeed the greater company by a millionfold.

And LOL at that earlier vid, Fletch.

 

[o-Serin-o]

I wonder why he didn't point out noobtubers.

And lag.

.____.

Treyarch needs to do SOMETHING about all this fail...


And GoW2's lag is incredibly bad. But the thing is, people in GoW2 don't camp as hard.

 

[BanjoKazooiePro]

I wonder why he didn't point out noobtubers.

And lag.

.____.

Treyarch needs to do SOMETHING about all this fail...


And GoW2's lag is incredibly bad. But the thing is, people in GoW2 don't camp as hard.

Yeah, that's what I like about GoW2. But I've got a funny story about that. I played a match where I just had to laugh a bit because I thought to myself, "this guy has got to be the first guy to ever camp in GoW2, if it's even possible." I was playing guardian and all this guy would do was sit behind the same wall and 2 piece you the second you ran by him. He did that for a full length game and even if you killed him, he would go right back, and dying by the same guy 2 piecing you 5 times in a row in the same spot is the most annoying thing that can ever happen to you in GoW2. People are ridiculous. At least in MW2 you can get revenge kills easily. Sigh, I wish Treyarch would just come out with black ops right now. I'm in desperate need of a change.

 

[Fuelbi]

Let me ask someone, what is bolt action does? I hear people say the intervention is much better BECAUSE it has bolt action

 

[RuNNing Riot]

All bolt action does in this game is give you a lower rate of fire. In real life, it's very useful since it's got a lower rate than other kinds of loading and lets you chamber very large rounds.

 

[PowerBomb]

How DO lag switches work, anyway? I don't get why they should have an impact on this game if the person isn't host.

Maybe I'm an idiot, but I don't get it.

 

[xLeafybug =D]

Let me ask someone, what is bolt action does? I hear people say the intervention is much better BECAUSE it has bolt action

Lol. Anybody who says that is an idiot. I handled the last big post, Fletch can take this one.

 

[Fletch]

Let me ask someone, what is bolt action does? I hear people say the intervention is much better BECAUSE it has bolt action

As far as this game goes Roach, all it does is suck. If you're looking for stuff about the Intervention, I've made lots of huge posts on why it's a horrible gun if you need me to dig them up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolt_action

No need for a long post there Leafy.

 

[BanjoKazooiePro]

I'm getting so frustrated with people who play this game. By this I don't mean I'm getting angry at what happens in the game or how I die or anything like that, but I'm angry at the people who always complain about getting killed in an illegitimate matter. Rant time.

All of this anger I have is basically over a video Wingsofredemption posted recently. It was a video of him playing a game of TDM on bailout, explaining things like choke points, spawns, and all that good stuff. So for a lot of the video, maybe the whole video, in fact, he stays in the same area. I'm not mad at all because of this, but when I read the comments I wanted to brutally injure someone, as odd as that sounds. I by no means dislike Wingsofredemption, but I dislike all of the people who act like there's a specific way to play this game and it drives me absolutely ****ing crazy. All I hear these days is, "Wow you camp," or "play the game how it should be played." Okay, please, enlighten me on that one.

Where is there a rule book to the Call of Duty series that says you aren't allowed to do something that helps you get kills and win the game. Camping, for example. I don't encourage it, but if you're not all that great at this game, you probably don't know any better. Plus, some of the guns and perk choices help you greatly if you're stationary for long periods of time, and there's nothing wrong with that. Once again, like I always say, this game's multiplayer is made so you can choose how you play.

Everyone was hating on Wings because he was "camping" or staying in the same area. If I'm in a specific area, and the enemy team keeps coming to me like moths to the flame, why would I move and get myself killed? To live up some randoms description of a "good" player? No, that's moronic, and it's the truth. And not to mention, there's numerous ways to killing someone camping. You can RPG them with danger close for all I care, it's part of the game, use what you're given, don't just sit there and die and whine for hours about how stupid the game is. I'm being perfectly honest here, and what I'm saying is that this game is what it is.

Being defensive is the best way to play this game hands down, and it helps your team win. It's not camping, it's strategic, and if you get kills and win by this method, why would you stop? How you play is your decision, not anyone else's. It's your fault if you keep getting killed by the same guy in the same spot. Wings gets all this hate for nothing. That's how he gets kills, it's smart play, not camping. If you hate camping or defensive play so much, how about this simple tip. Stop. Playing. You can't always win, you can't always get the most kills, and you can't always assume that you're going to walk around a corner safely without someone sitting there. That's your problem. I don't die often from this kind of play because I evaluate every situation and think of where people could be at any given spot in the map. All I'm doing is being careful.

You can say it's not fun, you can say it's dumb, but all I'm trying to say here is that it's not up to you to determine how other people play this game. Knowing that, if you're more careful, maybe you won't die so much from campers. People tend to hide in the same spots, and to me it's painfully obvious where people will be camping. But camping isn't just stupid or luck or anything, obviously you're standing somewhere because you know someone will be there. It's kind of boring and what not, but that's all opinion. I mentioned there's a counter to everything in this game, and camping is something that is easily countered. Just get over it and leave the guy camping in a corner alone if he pisses you off so much. They gain from your anger, probably because you'll go back and die again because he switched spots. It's just smart play sometimes, and it's how to be successful in this game. I don't consider myself a camper, nor an amazing player, just a defensive, smart player depending on the situation I'm presented with. Let people play how they want and learn that this game is about doing what you want to do, even if this means camping. Just so happens you get rewarded for camping, so why not do it? It helps your team and you most of the time. Everybody should know that people will camp. Just be careful and think before you act.

All of this is to try and tell people that it's going to happen some time or another that you get killed by a camper, but it's just part of the game. There's some strategy behind everything, and it's up to you to anticipate this. People do what they want, and don't get angry because you probably do something that other people see as stupid or unfair as well. People don't care if you say it's not fun to camp, it's their strategy and how they get kills. They won't stop it because you think it's dumb. Stick to what you do best and let other people do what they want, no matter how unfair it may seem. Camping isn't good at all if your team is smart. Campers can't get kills if you don't go anywhere near them, and if you're not near them and they haven't gotten a single kill, that should most likely be an indicator and an incentive for almost anyone to move positions. Anticipate people like this. You'll die from campers, but it can be avoided. Get used to it and stop complaining about it before I lose my mind and eat all of my call of duty games. This game is meant to be fun, so don't let people ruin it for you. This is by no means aimed at anyone on the boards or anything like that, just people that don't understand camping in general. I'm just trying to shed some light on this situation, because camping is why most people strongly dislike this game. I think the game is fun, and I want everyone else to think the same. Just remember that everyone has their own way of doing things.

 

[F8AL]

I'm getting so frustrated with people who play this game. By this I don't mean I'm getting angry at what happens in the game or how I die or anything like that, but I'm angry at the people who always complain about getting killed in an illegitimate matter. Rant time.

All of this anger I have is basically over a video Wingsofredemption posted recently. It was a video of him playing a game of TDM on bailout, explaining things like choke points, spawns, and all that good stuff. So for a lot of the video, maybe the whole video, in fact, he stays in the same area. I'm not mad at all because of this, but when I read the comments I wanted to brutally injure someone, as odd as that sounds. I by no means dislike Wingsofredemption, but I dislike all of the people who act like there's a specific way to play this game and it drives me absolutely ****ing crazy. All I hear these days is, "Wow you camp," or "play the game how it should be played." Okay, please, enlighten me on that one.

Where is there a rule book to the Call of Duty series that says you aren't allowed to do something that helps you get kills and win the game. Camping, for example. I don't encourage it, but if you're not all that great at this game, you probably don't know any better. Plus, some of the guns and perk choices help you greatly if you're stationary for long periods of time, and there's nothing wrong with that. Once again, like I always say, this game's multiplayer is made so you can choose how you play.

Everyone was hating on Wings because he was "camping" or staying in the same area. If I'm in a specific area, and the enemy team keeps coming to me like moths to the flame, why would I move and get myself killed? To live up some randoms description of a "good" player? No, that's moronic, and it's the truth. And not to mention, there's numerous ways to killing someone camping. You can RPG them with danger close for all I care, it's part of the game, use what you're given, don't just sit there and die and whine for hours about how stupid the game is. I'm being perfectly honest here, and what I'm saying is that this game is what it is.

Being defensive is the best way to play this game hands down, and it helps your team win. It's not camping, it's strategic, and if you get kills and win by this method, why would you stop? How you play is your decision, not anyone else's. It's your fault if you keep getting killed by the same guy in the same spot. Wings gets all this hate for nothing. That's how he gets kills, it's smart play, not camping. If you hate camping or defensive play so much, how about this simple tip. Stop. Playing. You can't always win, you can't always get the most kills, and you can't always assume that you're going to walk around a corner safely without someone sitting there. That's your problem. I don't die often from this kind of play because I evaluate every situation and think of where people could be at any given spot in the map. All I'm doing is being careful.

You can say it's not fun, you can say it's dumb, but all I'm trying to say here is that it's not up to you to determine how other people play this game. Knowing that, if you're more careful, maybe you won't die so much from campers. People tend to hide in the same spots, and to me it's painfully obvious where people will be camping. But camping isn't just stupid or luck or anything, obviously you're standing somewhere because you know someone will be there. It's kind of boring and what not, but that's all opinion. I mentioned there's a counter to everything in this game, and camping is something that is easily countered. Just get over it and leave the guy camping in a corner alone if he pisses you off so much. They gain from your anger, probably because you'll go back and die again because he switched spots. It's just smart play sometimes, and it's how to be successful in this game. I don't consider myself a camper, nor an amazing player, just a defensive, smart player depending on the situation I'm presented with. Let people play how they want and learn that this game is about doing what you want to do, even if this means camping. Just so happens you get rewarded for camping, so why not do it? It helps your team and you most of the time. Everybody should know that people will camp. Just be careful and think before you act.

All of this is to try and tell people that it's going to happen some time or another that you get killed by a camper, but it's just part of the game. There's some strategy behind everything, and it's up to you to anticipate this. People do what they want, and don't get angry because you probably do something that other people see as stupid or unfair as well. People don't care if you say it's not fun to camp, it's their strategy and how they get kills. They won't stop it because you think it's dumb. Stick to what you do best and let other people do what they want, no matter how unfair it may seem. Camping isn't good at all if your team is smart. Campers can't get kills if you don't go anywhere near them, and if you're not near them and they haven't gotten a single kill, that should most likely be an indicator and an incentive for almost anyone to move positions. Anticipate people like this. You'll die from campers, but it can be avoided. Get used to it and stop complaining about it before I lose my mind and eat all of my call of duty games. This game is meant to be fun, so don't let people ruin it for you. This is by no means aimed at anyone on the boards or anything like that, just people that don't understand camping in general. I'm just trying to shed some light on this situation, because camping is why most people strongly dislike this game. I think the game is fun, and I want everyone else to think the same. Just remember that everyone has their own way of doing things.

Should have included a tl;dr version.

My response: It's YouTube.

 

[BanjoKazooiePro]

YouTube comments always piss me of in some way shape or form. This is just one of them, because I know lots of people think the same way when I see a comment saying camping is stupid. People will never listen to me when I say it's often strategic to camp and usually your fault if you die from a camper. Oh well, just my 2 cents on the issue. I hope people understand where I'm coming from, because I feel as though I'm realistic about it.

 

[Fuelbi]

Big wall of text

Thank you. I really don't have a problem with campers and people who use "gay" weapons/perks.

But you're not saying that you aren't allowed to be pissed right? Because if I start getting killed by let's say a n00b tuber, I'll likely get pissed, but because I died, not because he's using gay **** like the n00b tube

 

[Delta-cod]

Roach, that wasn't a wall of text. If it WERE a wall of text, there would be no spaces between paragraphs.

Anyways, BKP, it's Youtube. Youtube comments are full of idiots. Only read them for the lulz.

 

[BanjoKazooiePro]

People on Youtube get on your case if you stay in the same spot for more than 2 seconds. If you're not moving 24/7 they automatically say you're camping. On another note, getting headshots in HC TDM with automatic weapons is so painfully easy. Not the same story for the burst weapons. Sigh, gotta do those the hard way.

 

[O D I N]

Well, if it's any cosolation, Treyarch did hand out punishments to boosters in WaW.

Though inevitably Bungie is indeed the greater company by a millionfold.

And LOL at that earlier vid, Fletch.

Yeah. They're really in touch with their community. Do I have your live tag?

Still have my CoD as of today. Need Snatch and Grab and Wetwork still for Spec Ops. Any takers?

 

[PowerBomb]

Spoiler

Just thought I'd sure that with you guys. Hope I'm not breaking any rules.

 

[F8AL]

I laughed at the above image.

 

[o-Serin-o]

My love for the SPAS-12 has been rekindled.

It's sooooo good

 

[Master Xanthan]

Btw, I"m sorry to everyone that sent me game invites yesterday, my friends were over my house that day.

 

[smash brawl player 99021]

Delta wins the thread.

Icy says: Delta is amazing and doesn't afraid of anything.

Deltacod says: The thread is ruled by Mad's tryhardness, Leafy's *****iness, F8al and Fletch meatriding each other, and Roach's nuke *****ing. YOU THINK I CARE ABOUT THEM!?

So...RPD is the best LMG by far. Hyezs.

 

[O D I N]

Power bomb wins the internet.

Also, glad I'm not on Deltas bad side. >.>

 

[xLeafybug =D]

lol, I guess that I missed the part where I said I give a crap what anybody has to say about me.

 

[Fuelbi]

Delta wins the thread.

Icy says: Delta is amazing and doesn't afraid of anything.

Deltacod says: The thread is ruled by Mad's tryhardness, Leafy's *****iness, F8al and Fletch meatriding each other, and Roach's nuke *****ing. YOU THINK I CARE ABOUT THEM!?

So...RPD is the best LMG by far. Hyezs.

Wait a second, how the hell did I get on Deltacod's bad side if the only time I've played with him was months ago?

 

[Master Xanthan]

Delta wins the thread.

Icy says: Delta is amazing and doesn't afraid of anything.

Deltacod says: The thread is ruled by Mad's tryhardness, Leafy's *****iness, F8al and Fletch meatriding each other, and Roach's nuke *****ing. YOU THINK I CARE ABOUT THEM!?

So...RPD is the best LMG by far. Hyezs.

So Delta can't just say that himself?