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Risk/reward ratio. Next time he grabs. Or grabs on block, still enough of a frame advantage.
Yes it would, but he's still not that good of a character.
Yes that's all well and good (aside from the fact that Ike's shieldgrabs are mediocre at best) but unless your opponent is playing Olimar for the first time (and this is the first minute of his first time playing) then he has probably realized that he has a projectile and you do not appear to. As such you're going to have to approach him, not the other way around.
Ftiltis pretty slow and can be shieldgrabbed. Fair can also be shieldgrabbed if they have a white or blue pikmin.
Up Tilt can be shielded on reaction as well has has pretty bad lag afterwards. Back Aerial hits too high up when rising to touch Olimar at all. Nair can be shieldgrabbed in most scenarios (and pivot grabbed in all) and Down Throw to Aether really won't work unless your opponent stops touching the controller and goes out to eat a sandwich or something. And well timed counters? The move is worthless and even if it WASN'T worthless you still can't counter a grab anyways.
Down A? Do you mean Down Tilt? The 16 frame move which should not be used on stage? Or do you mean Dair which requires you to be able to GET to Olimar in the first place (you'll be grabbed anyways).
6.
HEY!
My bad, my bad! And yes, you can probably go see an extensive art gallery and still make it in time to hit the control stick left or right.
Thanks for the response... But just telling me to change those values doesn't help that much. Is there a list somewhere that show what the values are for each music track? Is there a non-complex way to decipher the value of a preferred song?
You kill half his Pikmin, alright, cool. He grabs you, throws you away and boom, back to six pikmin.
I feel like we've been over this. You can't grab him because it's hard to get close to him. Your throws are weak anyways so you need to build up damage. Except oh wait you can't because he's too busy throwing Pikmin at you and shieldgrabbing. Are you listening to us at all?
Good young grasshopper, now wax on, wax off.
Lol, that was great.
Doesn't that auto-cancel?
Please, no negative comparisons.
Well, it will, but the problem is that you have to be so much better then your opponent at reading them (aka, pattern recognition) then they are at reading you that you're dealing with a skill gap big enough to discount match-ups period.
Not only do you have to be vastly better than your opponent to be able to properly break the strat but you also have to realize essentially what they are doing. They are plucking Pikmin out of the ground and (with some degree of thinking) chucking them at you as fast as possible. When you realize that gaining a ton of damage, as epic as that is, isn't working you'll be forced to approach. That's when they press R/L and A when they see your attack is over. Press a direction according to the color of the Pikmin. Press B until you are back to 6. Repeat.
First, I want to say that the diddy comment was misguided. I could have just as easily been Marth or G&W; the idea is that that is the rough level we are aiming for characters to move to.
Remember, this is a preview. It was never intended to be a candidate for exceptional balance, even if it is a good step forward on many fronts. The intent is to gather matchup data to help make educated and informed changes, taking into consideration the major metagame changes.
