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NickRiddle

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What's the Tink vs ZSS MU ratio?

I've never really played any good ZSSs...
Not sure, but I think ZSS wins.
Probably 55:45 or 60:40 us.
You can camp, just like vs, everybody, and we can PS, just like everybody.
You have trouble killing us, but we can kill you decently.
We outrange you without your projectiles, and we're generally safer than you are.
Not by much though.
 

OverLade

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His ZSS is really ****. It was good off of "legit basics", though he didn't do a lot of fancy stuff.

Hes already the most underrated snake. HRNUT for most underrated ZSS?
 

noradseven

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Not sure, but I think ZSS wins.
Probably 55:45 or 60:40 us.
You can camp, just like vs, everybody, and we can PS, just like everybody.
You have trouble killing us, but we can kill you decently.
We outrange you without your projectiles, and we're generally safer than you are.
Not by much though.
Basically and don't try edge camping us TL it turns out poorly...

His ZSS is really ****. It was good off of "legit basics", though he didn't do a lot of fancy stuff.

Hes already the most underrated snake. HRNUT for most underrated ZSS?
Thats because most people don't understand basics in brawl alot of even many tourney level players mindlessly do the same **** over and over again. *of course this isn't true with the top players but w/e.
 

solecalibur

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Get in the top 16 at MLG Nick so you can be "pro" status and go to columbus for the next one
 

Dumbfire

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Nick Riddle, what do you think about the Mu vs. Zelda?
Is it still like 60:40? And how do we handle it?
 

NickRiddle

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Nick Riddle, what do you think about the Mu vs. Zelda?
Is it still like 60:40? And how do we handle it?
I do not think Zelda can do anything to us.
Probably 65:35/70:30 ZSS.
Just... put her in the air, and laugh at her.
Or knock her off the stage, D-smash her attempts at going for the ledge, footstool, and ledgegrab for the kill. Or, if she goes for the stage, just hit her.
And then, learn how to fight Sheik.

wait, MLG is holding a smash tournament?
Yes, Brawl is now a part of MLG.
 

HRNUT (Honey Roasted)

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oh yeah mlg actually picked up this game lol too bad when they see players like lee martin and dmg run away they'll drop it instanly :/ pessimism for the win lol

but hey riddle you gotta teach me some ish the saturday, matchup wise i really like Zss lol
 

NickRiddle

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oh yeah mlg actually picked up this game lol too bad when they see players like lee martin and dmg run away they'll drop it instanly :/ pessimism for the win lol

but hey riddle you gotta teach me some ish the saturday, matchup wise i really like Zss lol
Of course sir.
Just ask specific questions. XD
Also, we just have to beat those who run, so it should be easy.
 

lllp3lll

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I still don't understand your love for D-smash, what do you see it as: a punisher, combo starter, mindgame tool, spacer?
 

NickRiddle

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I still don't understand your love for D-smash, what do you see it as: a punisher, combo starter, mindgame tool, spacer?
The first 2.
Punish big whiffs with one or two, then start a combo off of it.
It's also safe on non-PS shields. If your opponent is getting used to normal d-smash, just charge it for a tiny amount of time, hit their normal shield with it, and you cannot be punished.
It's really hard to explain why I like it, I just do.
 

noradseven

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The first 2.
Punish big whiffs with one or two, then start a combo off of it.
It's also safe on non-PS shields. If your opponent is getting used to normal d-smash, just charge it for a tiny amount of time, hit their normal shield with it, and you cannot be punished.
It's really hard to explain why I like it, I just do.
I like it because of its hitbox and if I see you forgot you where fighting ZSS d-smash outrages alot of characters air to ground pokes at certain angles.
 

CaliburChamp

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Do you approve of the new tier list placement that Zero Suit Samus is in? They have her at top of middle tier.
I was surprised to see that she didn't move up. In my opinion she seems like a high tier character.
 

Rybaia

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Do you approve of the new tier list placement that Zero Suit Samus is in? They have her at top of middle tier.
I was surprised to see that she didn't move up. In my opinion she seems like a high tier character.
I just don't like the tier list...
The top is ok...
But the rest is kinda "WTF is this ****?!"
 

NickRiddle

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Do you approve of the new tier list placement that Zero Suit Samus is in? They have her at top of middle tier.
I was surprised to see that she didn't move up. In my opinion she seems like a high tier character.
I think she should be higher TBH.
But, meh.
 

Adapt

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I think that she belongs pretty much exactly where she is

lower high-tier to upper mid-tier

I don't see her moving, up or down, more than a spot in the next iteration of the tier list
 

NickRiddle

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Ever since we were the best state ;), just look at it our 8th ranked went and pillaged texas

nick teach me how to fight you or im bringin out that foxxxxx next time
Im serious though, do I just suck at the mu? **** was gay
Ask Seibrik for tips.
I thin it's 65:35, if the DDD cannot edgeguard.
60:40 if he can. (It's not much of an improvement, but it helps.)
 
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