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[#HBC | ZoZo]

DI away, tech roll away, roll away.

 

[Jon?]

Sorry for being that guy, but I haven't been catching up with the new techs.

What are the inputs for the new bDacus as compared to normal Dacus?

The Diddy infinite seems very inlogical to go for in a tournament match.

 

[Orion*]

have they had people try to SDI the lasers? especially the first one

i remember that infi. from a long time ago but i doubt i will ever grab diddy on a platform at 0% lol

 

[Jon?]

I've seen someone CG a Diddy and instead of spiking him after the throw, he back threw them and they flopped onto a platform and thus, starting the platform infinite.

 

[BluB]

This infinite also works on Pikachu und Toon Link.
@Jon?: Buffer a dash attack. I prefer dash + C-Stick up. Then the control Stick has to get in neutral position and you have to immidiately do C-Stick up again. All of this has to be done really fast.
@Orion: It's impossible to SDI the lasers.

 

[J4pu]

they can get out by SDI'ing against the lasers

 

[BluB]

So you mean it's possible to get out of a laser lock by SDI'ing??
I don't think so. But if yes, I want to see a video :o

 

[J4pu]

ok, so here's the thing, you'll get hit by some lasers, take some damage, but if you're intelligent you'll be able to SDI to get off the end of the platform.
I meant it's possible to escape the infinite, not cancel the LL itself. With good SDI you can move towards where the lasers are coming from so that Falco switching sides and shooting won't really keep it going any longer.
At least I've seen people able to SDI Jab locks backwards so I can only imagine you can also do it against LL's

 

[magikguy]

So how is that Dehf trick done where he does down throw -> jab?


is the jab supposed to be buffered?

also is it guaranteed?

 

[Jon?]

You don't need to buffer the jab. It's only guaranteed if the d-throw is fresh.

 

[Denzi]

It's only guaranteed if the d-throw is fresh.

Not even then. Only works on heavier chars/FFers, only from ~55-100%, and only if they DI down (or at least don't DI up).

 

[Jon?]

Is there any known way to laser lock an opponent after the last Dthrow of your CG? Such as trying to f-tilt them into a flop after the throw?

 

[Denzi]

Is there any known way to laser lock an opponent after the last Dthrow of your CG? Such as trying to f-tilt them into a flop after the throw?

We've got the splat on Tlink, Pika, Diddy, and D3, but there's never any guaranteed setup because teching.

 

[Jon?]

I heard of the splats on the characters you listed. I guess it's all DI dependent on the opponent's end.

 

[Berserker.]

I'm taking Falco as my secondary.

Oh if you don't know me, my name is BERK not berserker.

So any techs I need to know asides from CG and the fast fall auto laser thing? (SHDL?)

 

[J4pu]

nope, that's about all falco's got
you should be able to check the stickies for yourself

 

[Jon?]

All Falco does is shoot lasers.

*For AT check out the sticky we have.

 

[Ambient_Horizon]

So how well of a team do you think Falco and Olimar would make in doubles.

I'm thinking SHDL over Oli with his superb ground game can make for some gay camping lol

 

[Jon?]

I see a lot of Falcos using Dair while above MK when coming back down to the stage. Is there a certain reason for this? Does Dair beat out his Uair and reduce knockback from shuttleloop?

@ambient: Falco isn't so hot in teams.

 

[BluB]

Dair often beats out shuttle loop. If not, Falco and MK usually trade hits but it does not beat out the uair.
Dair is also a better option than air dodge since mk always gets a free hit after the dodge. Also a lot of mks tend to wait for the airdodge. If that's the case dair is a good option.

 

[swordsaint]

It sucks that there's been no developments in Falco's game. I was hoping 3 months off would mean something to Falco.

 

[GunmasterLombardi]

It sucks that there's been no developments in Falco's game. I was hoping 3 months off would mean something to Falco.

Buffered DACUS.

You can kill MK w/ a dthrow @ 116 w/ it.

 

[swordsaint]

Gonna have to give me more info. Haven't seen anything about that, but atm I'm slightly pleased by the sounds of it. =)

Question: Why is it "Ask a qusestion."?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

What's wrong with it?

 

[swordsaint]

Lol. Xonar never changes. <3

Anyway, more info on buffered DACUS PLZ?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

You can buffer a dacus and it's epic. This gives diddy a broken *** dacus and for falco it means that the usmash hitbox is out earlier and actually makes it all safer.

sidecontroll + cstick up, neutralcontroll + cstick up (+Z and hold to charge if you want to), in buffer frames.

 

[swordsaint]

I might have to practice that. I don't understand the mechanic of it, nor the reason for that weird input. >_>

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

weird input iunno, it just works.

the mechanics is that you release usmash hitbox earlier then by dacus (ya know, human reflexes)

for diddy its because his usmash must be cancelled 1 frame after dash attack started, but the game requires 1 still frame before it accepts the same action (attack(dash attack), attack(usmash) in this case), so it only works when buffered.

 

[swordsaint]

Is there a video on it somewhere?
Safe + quicker DAC is the smex. I'll be honest, doesn't sound all that practical though.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

search for tommy_g's youtube account, or else blubs?

 

[BluB]

@swordsaint:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjh9ve9RS-0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvDhPm7JWlc

 

[Jon?]

Is there another matchup where falling back onto the stage with Dair is safe? I know Dair can beat out Snake's Mortar.

 

[swordsaint]

Is there another matchup where falling back onto the stage with Dair is safe? I know Dair can beat out Snake's Mortar.

Most attacks can beat out the Mortar though.


Thanks Blub.

This BDacus seems quite difficult to me. Perhaps it's just because it's new or something.

 

[yoichX]

I can only fire 4 bullets at a time whats up with that? like i fire and theres a pause o.o

 

[J4pu]

assuming you mean grounded lasers (which should only be used for LLs) you either need to press faster so that you press the B button at least one time every 10 frames so that you will always be able to buffer the next laser, or you can figure out the timing pattern on when you need to press B to stay in sync with Falco's laser shooting.

 

[BleachigoZX]

Is our frame data good?

 

[J4pu]

accurate or complete?

It is accurate (i think? I never tested it myself so I cant be sure), it isn't complete

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

It sucks that there's been no developments in Falco's game. I was hoping 3 months off would mean something to Falco.

About a dozen months and Falco has defended it's position at 4th on the tier list. I would call that a victory. We do not need any more developments. Falco is good enough. What needs to develop is our skills in playing as a smasher and as a falco main. If we accomplish that, falco will get more rep. That is the ultimate goal! People already want to ban MK, people say Snake is broken. Let us say that Falco is GAY!

{This motivation speech went a lot better in my head before I read it out loud. The gay thing kind of ruins it }

 

[dainbramage]

Someone grabbing the PAC frame data would be useful.

 

[Anonymous Brawler]

Question: Why is it "Ask a qusestion."?

Because Falco is Italian.