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[#HBC | ZoZo]

we have a boost grab? 0_o

 

[D1]

Np at D1

Uhm, that's not a dacus.
Dash -> C-Stick down + R = Boost Grab

But basically thats how you CG Peach right? Just buffer that?

 

[BluB]

we have a boost grab? 0_o

Are you kidding me?

But basically thats how you CG Peach right? Just buffer that?

Yes.

 

[D1]

I also seen Larry do buffered CGs while walking...how do you buffer a walking CG?

 

[J4pu]

every character has a boost grab (sorta like with DACUS), I was unaware it was of any use for falco it just adds a few frames to the start-up lag due to the DA input

Dthrow, hold forward, buffer a grab?
I've never heard of this being used and seems like you would whiff the grab, but what do I know.

 

[GameStation aka C4?!]

I also seen Larry do buffered CGs while walking...how do you buffer a walking CG?

Let me give it a shot

Try Up-C stick

 

[swordsaint]

So whats new with Falco in '10? Anything interesting I need to know?

 

[J4pu]

he lost his chain grab
sadly it expired Dec 31 2009
RIP CG

 

[Viperdev]

he lost his chain grab
sadly it expired Dec 31 2009
RIP CG

yep..

unfortunately it's diddys turn to have the change grab now :/

 

[dainbramage]

But we can shine ladder again, so it's all good.

 

[D1]

^^^

Jokes?

My copy of Brawl says otherwise.

 

[Ambient_Horizon]

Nah no more CG. If you get caught using it pasts its expiration day you'll get fined.

Okay anyway are there any other characters besides Peach in which a buffered Boost Grab CG would be beneficial? I was practicing it against a Peach and it worked but the timing has to be spot on or you'll just whiff the grab and probably eat an aerial. Its nothing impossible to do though.

 

[Jon?]

I CGed last week during several matches at a tourny. I'm in some serious trouble.

 

[BluB]

Okay anyway are there any other characters besides Peach in which a buffered Boost Grab CG would be beneficial?

Marth.
10char

 

[BetaZealot]

Wait.

We seriously don't have a CG anymore?

fffffff

I have so much of it in my freezer, now I can't use it?

 

[Ambient_Horizon]

So BluB how long can I do this on Marth before eating a Dolphin Slash?

Also I need to learn that BDacus shenanigan. Problem is the timing on trying to buffer the dash is what's killing me here. Maybe I should start from a D-Throw since buffering a dash from there is pretty basic.

 

[BluB]

I think till ~ 30% iirc.

 

[MetalMusicMan]

Yeah, I also need to practice this buffered running CG nonsense on Marth and whoever else... any tips on timing it / practicing it?

We should probably have a whole thread on the new-ish buffered CG stuff since it's pretty important.

Same goes for the BDacus. I feel way too uninformed on both topics, personally.

 

[Ambient_Horizon]

I agree with that. I think mastering the BDacus will give us more options for killing and combos. Hopefully killing. Like Silent Laser to BDacus could be SEXY.

And yeah that Buffered Boost Grab CG is helpful as well. All I can say is Dash + C-stick down + R. Its one fluid motion when I press all the buttons together and it seems to work.

Someone make thread nao XD

 

[MetalMusicMan]

Oh I can boost pivot grab just fine, I'm just not sure on the new buffering stuff or w/e. Like chain grabbing marth without him Up-B'ing.

 

[BluB]

Isn't that buffered boost grab really old? :b I think I've seen it here on the Falco Boards like more than one year before.

 

[Ambient_Horizon]

Oh I can boost pivot grab just fine, I'm just not sure on the new buffering stuff or w/e. Like chain grabbing marth without him Up-B'ing.

Same for me. I just never knew the full info on the buffered grabs. In my defense, I only recently switched to Falco from Snake.

And Boost Grabbing isn't new but never seen anyone really discuss it in depth or use it for Falco anyway. I think its an under developed part of Falco's game.

 

[dainbramage]

A BBPG should be 2 frames faster than a buffered boost grab yeah? What window of escape does marth have after 25% to upB? If it's less than 2 frames, a BBPG will let us CG him higher.

 

[gunterrsmash01]

Unrelated, but regular pivot grab has more range than boost pivot grab

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Boost grabbing gives no boost, you can CG those characters with a normal buffered CG too.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

People have been doing a dash upsmash with falco forever. People have been punishing snake's mortar slide forever. Falco being able to upsmash almost the distance of a mortar slide won't change much.

 

[J4pu]

who the hell are you replying to?

 

[BluB]

Boost grabbing gives no boost

It gives a little boost.

 

[Denzi]

Just throwing this out there:


We can actually CG marth till ~40%. The timing just changes a bit after three grabs.

 

[MetalMusicMan]

Just throwing this out there:


We can actually CG marth till ~40%. The timing just changes a bit after three grabs.

This is the kind of stuff we should have a video / thread for. There seems to have been some new information about the way the CG works on certain characters, but we aren't doing anything to spread the knowledge.

 

[Ambient_Horizon]

I totally agree. Every little bit helps.

And our metagame isn't really progressing at all. With the new tier list we really need to start developing our game more. Diddys aimed for it and it got them 3rd on the tier list. Exactly what ADHD and AlphaZealot claimed they'd do.

 

[Denzi]

We infinite Diddy. People need to learn that and use it, because Diddy is one of the few characters that we have a guaranteed setup for it on.

It should be 1 grab on a platform = dead monkey. I want to see it happen.

(it's funny because that's probably another one of the things that few people know about xD)

 

[Ambient_Horizon]

I would like to request a thread made by one of the Falco boards established members.

A "Little Known Useful Facts" thread or something like that to help develop our metagame.

Plus I too want to see dead monkeys.

Let's make it happen.

 

[J4pu]

these things (and how to execute them, and video example) need to go into the miscellaneous section in a falco guide somewhere

 

[Denzi]

I'm starting to work on some sort of ATs/Tricks thread.

 

[Jon?]

What's the infinite on Diddy? I don't remember anyone talking about it. A video, if possible, would be perfect.

 

[M@v]

So yeah, how do you deal with a really good DDD tech chaser? Hbox keeps kicking my *** with it.

-I've tried teching
-I've tried rolling both ways
-I've tried get up attacks
-I've tried laying down for a bit

 

[Hanzhou]

Any more applications for falco's BDacus? So far I have Rapid A to Bdacus, Grab (missed grab to Bdacus not much use), Dthrow to bdacus, and shine to Bdacus. Also I want to know if shine to (full lenght) Bdacus is a true setup (trip or no trip)

 

[Denzi]

So yeah, how do you deal with a really good DDD tech chaser? Hbox keeps kicking my *** with it.

-I've tried teching
-I've tried rolling both ways
-I've tried get up attacks
-I've tried laying down for a bit

Don't get grabbed.

But really, either techroll away, Buffer roll away, or DI up and laser/nair/AD.

Here's the Diddy infinite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PqKGFcZfhY

 

[J4pu]

Also I want to know if shine to (full lenght) Bdacus is a true setup (trip or no trip)

lol, not even close