Hmm...
MK is not banned... what do you guys think?
Honestly?
It's a pile of bull.
It's obvious that the SBR doesn't want MK banned, so they made it so he couldn't be banned outside of a sudden huge shift in the public opinion by picking such a large number that pro-ban needed when it's obvious that the SBR isn't divided evenly. The poll was a shame at best.
The four polls have show that constantly the public wants MK banned by roughly a 55/45 split. I'm sorry, a clear majority is a clear majority. If it was "evenly split" as some people claim, the polls would have bounced back and forth with who was winning. It would
not have stayed 55/45 for all four polls. I can understand some amount of hesitation if it had been only one poll, but
four. No, I'm sorry but the results are clear now. The majority of the public wants a ban. It should not be a majority of the SBR.
Lets go onto the SBR and the staff shall we? It's plainly obvious they were supporting Anti-ban for the most part. Just take a look at how long it took Inui and RBK (or who ever that guy was. The guy with three letters, red letters in his name and a monkey avi) to get banned. There were other trolls, but those were the two I remember the best They were
plainly trolling in the topic, despite the big letter posted warning. And they were allowed to for a long time. Both of them should have been ban hammered the first post either of them made. Why? They weren't even debating, they were just plain old flaming and trolling, in a topic
specifically warning against somethings. RBK/whatever initials they were should be permaban. He came into the topic solely to flame and troll, and admitted he didn't even like Brawl and much preferred Melee. Inui shouldn't be staff or in the SBR. I'm surprised he has lasted as long as he has with all of his
unashamed trolling through-out the whole board. Heck, why else did everyone in the WHOBO topic laugh at him when Ruddy told his story about beating him with Fox after Inui trashed talked him? He's a complete and utter joke of a SBRer. It should be simple: you can't follow the rules, you get booted. He can't follow the rules, he should be gone. Heck, those two are the reasons why I barely posted in that topic. I wanted to debate, not sit there and watch two obvious trolls get away with trolling for who knows what long, only to finally get a small slap on the wrist.
And the criteria the SBR put up for MK being banned: complete and utter bull. 2/3 majority, in a place were the majority of the members use MK? What a
joke. That's not how you decide things if you are going to use public opinion at all. The moment you use public opinion to decide things, groups like SBR don't get a say besides their own vote in the big poll. You have an even number of supports for both sides of the poll that are in the SBR say their thoughts in the OP of the poll topic,
and thats it. You don't go "Yes, the public's vote effects the poll, but our few opinions decide if he's banned or not unless there is a complete and utter outcry for him to be banned." Imagine if voting for the President or Prime Minister worked that way? (Yes, I know in the US you are actually voting for electorals(sp?) who then cast their vote for President, and can technically vote either way but lets be honest, they vote for what the public said and the party they are a part of. Thats why I added in the PM, cause in Canada there are no electorals(sp?)) You would never get a new party in. It would be "Yes, I know that the country as a whole voted 55/45 for the Republicans/Conservatives to be in, but we in Congress had our own vote. As the Democrats/Liberals had a 6/4 lead in seats within the Congress, Democrats/Liberals actually won 59/41, as the Congress vote counts for more then the public vote."
You see how
insane that looks? Same thing applies here. If the public is going to be involved, the public gets the final say. No whishy-washy "Yes, you get a part, but a very tiny part to make you feel better." It's all, or nothing.
"But what about the idiots who are obviously clueless about the competitive scene and shouldn't be allowed to vote?" Guess what? Idiots get to vote for the leader of the country. Idiots get to vote for character bans as well. "But they don't know what they are talking about!" So? They are still a part of the community. You don't get to decide who's "smart enough" to decide something like a ban. Public opinion is public opinion, idiots are a part of the public
wether you like it or not. And honestly, the Elitists keep acting like they only exist on one side of the poll. Newsflash for ya: they exist on both sides of the poll. "Lulz, I want MK banned because I don't like him." VS "Lulz, I don't MK banned, because I like using him to beat up my little brother and he has a cool cape." Which one is more stupid? Neither.
"What about alt accounts made to change the poll results?" Guess what, that sort of stuff happens in real life as well. One political party will go and bribe those who didn't plan on voting to vote for their party (Free limo ride to vote for you guys? Sweet.), the other party will go through the list of people who are allowed to vote, look for those who are dead but haven't been removed from the list yet, and hire people to act like said person complete with fake ID. And you know what?
They generally speaking cancel out each other. Obviously, if you see something like "JimBobTheGreat" and "JimBobTheGreat2" you can catch the guy using alts to affect the vote and veto his votes, and maybe run an IP check on all of the votes looking for alts but otherwise
who really cares? People from
both sides are going to do that, and quite frankly they will cancel each other out within a few votes.
"The SBR decides things all of the time! We should have just let them have the say on if MK is banned or not!" Yes they do make decisions all of the time. They decide on
smaller details. Yes, stage legality is a small detail, as is the tier list. TO will still have what ever stages they want legal (as seen by the NE's silly decision to have perfectly legal stages like Pirate Ship banned, but thats a different argument), and people will still have their own opinion where character so and so should be. Having a character banned? Thats a
big issue, one that
requires public opinion. "TOs don't listen to the SBR all of the time, just look at the different stage lists! This wouldn't change anything if MK is banned or not!" Wrong. A vast majority of TOs closely follow what the SBR recommends closely. It does play a huge factor, which is a shame seeing how bias this decision was. Smart TOs would look at the SBR's decision, look at what the general public thinks, ask their local area what they want, and act accordingly. Local area should come first for TOs, but they should be aware of what most TOs are doing. Xyro did this in Houston, and his MK banned tournaments are a huge success. He had people fly down to play in his first MK banned tournament. Such a huge success other Texas cities may end up following his/NM's footsteps I doubt the same would occur in the NE area, which is an MK orgy basically. The tournament would probably get half as many people at best.
For the big tournaments (APEX, etc), TOs should pay more attention to the wide public opinion rather then their local area. If that means so and so won't show and has a hissy fit in the discussion topic
so be it. If ten guys, or twenty guys do that
who cares? They are but a handful of hundreds of people showing up. It'll cost the winner ten bucks out of several grand, I doubt they are going to miss those people's money at all.
"But so and so he/she would quit brawl if MK is banned/legal." You know what I say to that?
GOOD.. Let the whiners go. In fact, they should leave right now if they can't adapt to changes in the Brawl scene. Frankly, they don't matter. I don't care who said it, if it was M2K, or my little sister. If you can't take it,
leave. Stuff changes, deal if it or cry that life isn't fair and quit. If you can't take it the sooner you're gone the better. "But they said they would leave because it means the SBR is stupid!" If thats the case, it's even
better if they leave.
"You yourself are bias! You are obviously pro-ban!" Clean out the mud from your eyes. Everyone is going to have at least a small bias, otherwise they wouldn't be able to vote in the poll. And yes, I was pro-ban.
However, if the public opinion had been in favor of anti-ban, I wouldn't be making this post. My points are still valid. "You don't even place in tournaments, you've finished dead last twice, and only beat one person in the other tournaments! And your main is Ike, who sucks against MK!" Yes, I know I suck. I never said I was good at Brawl. As for my main, I have yet to faced an MK in a tournament (Yes, they were MK legal tournaments. Texas happens to like using more then three characters though.). And before you open your mouth with another accusation about my credibility,
my ability at Brawl does not change the facts about this poll and decision making process.
Honestly, this whole thing sickens me with the amount of pure bias in the decision making process. He's the facts kids:
1) Public voted in favor of a ban.
2) Public did so four times in a row at roughly the same ratio. It's not random chance or evenly split: it's a clear majority. Stop beating around the bush and accept it. And for crying out loud stop making up weak excuses like "Thats because pro-ban had more idiots." You're just hurting your side more.
3) You let the Public have a say, and as such they should have the final say. That's how it works in the world, there is no reason it should be different here.
4) SBR never intended to ban MK, unless there was a HUGE shift in public opinion. Like, 8/2 in favor of the ban.
5) The modding of the topic, poll and decision making process was heavily in favor of anti-ban.
6) TOs should throw the recommendation out the window and ask their city what they want to do, except for the huge, multi-state tournaments which should be MK banned
as thats what the public wants by a 55/45 split.
if anything, you should be using walk-off f airs or even a back air if your opponent has no way of retaliating. Spikes are unconventional but they're always nice =D As for onstage areials, you should short hop them like, 80% of the time.
