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Noa.

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Instant return is also situational, but not as much as platform canceling. :p

But yeah platform canceling, jump canceled usmash oos, instant return, reverse usmash and the pikmin shuffling tech.
 

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can someone (hilt, *wink wink*) make a thread with simple explanations of how to do all of olimar's ATs for quick and easy reference?

DACUS

boost pivot grab

stutter step fsmash (even though it is almost useless for olimar, might as well mention it)

platform canceling

tether canceling

pikmin shuffling

upsmash OOS

sliding upsmash OOS

JC upsmash OOS

instant return

reverse upsmash

whistle momentum reversal

pluck cancel

buffering

anything else i'm missing?
 

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can someone (hilt, *wink wink*) make a thread with simple explanations of how to do all of olimar's ATs for quick and easy reference?

DACUS

boost pivot grab

stutter step fsmash (even though it is almost useless for olimar, might as well mention it)

platform canceling

tether canceling

pikmin shuffling

upsmash OOS

sliding upsmash OOS

JC upsmash OOS

instant return

reverse upsmash

whistle momentum reversal

pluck cancel

buffering

anything else i'm missing?
You forgot RP.


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****it, screw you Hilt and your ninja speed...
 

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can someone (hilt, *wink wink*) make a thread with simple explanations of how to do all of olimar's ATs for quick and easy reference?

DACUS

boost pivot grab

stutter step fsmash (even though it is almost useless for olimar, might as well mention it)

platform canceling

tether canceling

pikmin shuffling

upsmash OOS

sliding upsmash OOS

JC upsmash OOS

instant return

reverse upsmash

whistle momentum reversal

pluck cancel

buffering

anything else i'm missing?
What's tether canceling? And there are three usmashes OoS on that list. I know the jump canceled one is important, but is "usmash OoS" just referring to doing usmash oos with tap jump on and just pressing upA? And what's sliding usmash oos?

Seems good though.
 

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So in light of everyone talking about every little thing, what are the ATs that people are bringing up as important? We really need to keep track of this.

Usmash OoS, jumpcanceled if you have tap jump off

Instant Return

Reverse JC Usmash

That Weruop Tech that Shuffles pikmin to the end of the line

Am I missing anything else.

Oh and what Fino was talking about the other day in the chat. He said that if your opponent shields usmash you have a guranteed dsmash. That is so legit and I used it on everyone on Saturday. Got a lot of kills from people dropping their shields early. It's so good.
oh yeah i forgot about that tech thing i found/brought up xD

after watching brood play and realizing that i need to pay more attention to myline, iam definitely going to be looking to use this more often. i wonder if sh up air FF > 'my' little tech is the fastest way to shuffle pikmin :o. its either that or d smash

also,another little At is setting ur whistle after Kills. Setting to yellow is the best imo :o and then shuffling to purple if u can.
 

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btw Weruop, we renamed that AT Rosa Parks because it sends the Pikmin to the back of the bus but that ***** keeps commin back to the front

(I'm black so this isn't racist)
 

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i was acctuly thinking of reseting my whistle after kills not to long ago but havent been able to use it yet. and is werops tech thingy RP? or something else? And i havent heard of sliding usmashoos >.> (hilt make a thread lol)
 

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btw Weruop, we renamed that AT Rosa Parks because it sends the Pikmin to the back of the bus but that ***** keeps commin back to the front

(I'm black so this isn't racist)
LMAO I love the disclaimer XD

And I've been resetting my whistle since forever but Blood's method seems a lot more useful, gotta start learnin how to arrange better now
 

Noa.

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Pikmin shuffle is when you input an aerial right before you land on the ground. You have no landing lag, but the pikmin in front of your line goes to the back of it. Though I suppose we now call it Rosa Parks now lol.

And what's pikmin attack cancel?
 

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Pikmin shuffle is when you input an aerial right before you land on the ground. You have no landing lag, but the pikmin in front of your line goes to the back of it. Though I suppose we now call it Rosa Parks now lol.

And what's pikmin attack cancel?
what? i thought pikmin shuffling was when u input a smash atk or upair to send the pikmin to the back WITH lag, and that Rosa Parks is when u input an aerial RIGHT before landing o_O
 

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Yeah, to RP you have to land within frames 2 and 5 of the attack or you have lag. I don't know about "Pikmin Shuffling" and whether it's referring to this or just using attacks to shuffle through Pikmin. Which isn't really an AT.
 

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I JUST learned this the other day, and there are actually two techs that go by this name (though the second may have a dif name)

1) While rising through a moving platform, smash down just as you pass through it to land on the platform without having to finish the rise of your jump. You can do this on SV, Lylat, YI, and I think RC.

2) While dashing on a platform, hit down to initiate a drop down and then hit shield to cancel the drop and remain on the platform. This allows you to quickly transition from dashing into an Fsmash, for instance. (It may also work with other things besides dashing, and you also pick up items if they're on the ground when you do it.)

edit: And yes, I think that's a good list. The other big thing is pikmin management, but that's not really a tech. Is anyone ever going to make that usoos thread? It really needs to be done. Like I said before, if no one else feels like running it, I can set up the thread and just update with new results
Yeah I always do #2 with ROB BY ACCIDENT @_@ when I try to drop thru a platform & laser, but I down B and lanf back on the plat instead =/

Alright guys we get it - everything's situational, none of it's useful, all of it's useful, situational is just a state of mind, and Bob Saget is secretly the best Olimar in the universe :)
:joyful:

Yeah, to RP you have to land within frames 2 and 5 of the attack or you have lag. I don't know about "Pikmin Shuffling" and whether it's referring to this or just using attacks to shuffle through Pikmin. Which isn't really an AT.
So much for keeping it a secret...
 

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Using RP to shuffle your Pikmin was never suppose to be kept a secret, that would be dumb. Something else may have been, though.
 

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Pikmin attack cancel is the same than pikmin shuffle or RP then XD

platform cancel with olimars desynchs ur pikmins so u cant follow it with a pikmin attack, at least that's what zulu told me. we can follow up with dtilt though
 

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Pikmin attack cancel is the same than pikmin shuffle or RP then XD

platform cancel with olimars desynchs ur pikmins so u cant follow it with a pikmin attack, at least that's what zulu told me. we can follow up with dtilt though
And I thought it was situational beforehand. ha ha ha ha :embarrass
 

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BTW we gotta start double usmashing at low percents more often like brood. It looks really useful.
 

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Pikmin attack cancel is the same than pikmin shuffle or RP then XD

platform cancel with olimars desynchs ur pikmins so u cant follow it with a pikmin attack, at least that's what zulu told me. we can follow up with dtilt though

can you only follow up with attacks that involve pressing down on the control stick, or would jab, Utilt, etc work?
 

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platform cancel with olimars desynchs ur pikmins so u cant follow it with a pikmin attack, at least that's what zulu told me. we can follow up with dtilt though
I've never had it happen before. What is he doing to platform cancel?

I got my first platform cancel > dashing usmash kill today =] Everyone is programed to think that when they're in the air against olimar and he jumps he's going to upB.

I love baiting those aerial dodges :3
 

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Hey with the platform cancel stuff just jump and grab them, someone mentioned it already but no one said anything about it. Considering our grab can kill, especially if their DI is off by a little, it's good to keep in mind.

Also, we should all be dashing-shielding-grabbing instead of dashgrabbing. I finally broke that habit about 2 weeks ago, and it's helped me soooo much

Still trying to make my usmashOoS feel more natural >.<

I gotta start charging **** randomly more, in one game against SK92 I charged a purple usmash for absolutely no reason, he got hit by it somehow at 55 or so and died XD

SideB-di back-grab is a great mixup

I beat chibo in a 5 dollar MM at Columbus, though it went to game 3 with each game last hit

Maybe if we scare them with usmashOoS, and the shield is up, and it's like a magnet, and then we Uair them, or jump to bait something, uair moves sorta quick if done right, uair-fair stuffs. Instead of shielding, usmash, other stuff, take action

(That last paragraph is just me brainstorming to myself, ignore it lol)
 

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Most def gotta stop dashgrabbing... such a nasty habit

Randomly charged stuffz is too good. I really wanna learn to dacus consistently. Purple dacus is seriously ****, even if we only get a little slide
 

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can someone (hilt, *wink wink*) make a thread with simple explanations of how to do all of olimar's ATs for quick and easy reference?

DACUS

boost pivot grab

stutter step fsmash (even though it is almost useless for olimar, might as well mention it)

platform canceling

tether canceling

pikmin shuffling

upsmash OOS

sliding upsmash OOS

JC upsmash OOS

instant return

reverse upsmash

whistle momentum reversal

pluck cancel

buffering

anything else i'm missing?
You're forgetting:

- whatever the hell the OTHER pluck cancel is called (this thread would REALLY help with definitions)

- ledge plucking

- pivot walking (lol)

- attacking while holding an item (aerial and ground).

If any of these don't count as ATs or are covered by other AT explanations, please ignore them.
 

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Alright, I'll get working on a thread soon.

Edit: Dabuz, what do you mean by "Sliding Upsmash Out of Shield"? Do you only mean when you're attacked in your shield and hit the opponent with a Desync'd Pikmin? Is are you talking about something that's performed in a different way than a normal Up Smash OOS?

Also, I'm not going to list buffering in the thread, as it is not an AT.

Edit Again: Actually **** it, I don't have the time right now. I'll worry about it later.
 

Noa.

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Maybe if one of you guys did one of the threads it wouldn't be so much of a problem.

That said I'm kind of a hypocrite since I'm too busy to take on any other threads.
 

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Maybe if one of you guys did one of the threads it wouldn't be so much of a problem.

That said I'm kind of a hypocrite since I'm too busy to take on any other threads.
I'd definitely do a thread if only I knew what to do :/

HILT, DESIGNATE SOMETHING TO MEH!
 
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