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Ally Is Inhuman. Updated 1/10: New vids vs M2k!!!!! Anther

misterpimp5757

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im with the ally lovers.

hes probably the next dsf since he betrayed us to mk.

plus u gotta love how he works with his grabs.

the only thing tht im not too much of him is tht he shields too much.
 

CaliburChamp

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He plays Snake at his full potential, he doesn't only spam the same moves but he mixes his strategy up making him unpredictable. Not many people can beat the best character in the game played by a top notch player, so of course he is good.
 

Timbers

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I was disappointed with the finals for that reason. I was really excited to see them initially because I had thought Ally would be 3-stocking Ace's MK. What was Ace thinking using those other characters?
Either he knew he'd lose to Ally anyways or Ally and Ace agreed to split 50/50 before the set. The latter being highly unlikely unless Ally was a super nice guy because he had a pretty sure win on Ace regardless.
 

IxxI

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ally is definitely really good i like his snake the most out of all the snakes i've seen so far i think because he uses snakes whole move set where as alot of others that i have seen that are good don't really utilize everything.

Did you know that Snake has a side b?
 

Master Raven

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Pretty tight to 3-stock twice in the Finals though lol.
I didn't really find the 3-stocks impressive given that Ace's secondaries, from what I can tell, look like ***. It reminds of when HRNut randomly brought out his 1-week old Falco against Afro Thundah a couple months ago at Gigabits. >_>
 

OverLade

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it's actually a fun tool if you know how to guide it perfectly or punish random rolling, making them get hit once it pops out.
I noticed this.

I've seen snake players reverse short hop them and immediately drop it for weird mindgames at close range.

Snake has that WTF potential hardcore.
 

KC18

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ally is sick, he's a very good player. (cyborg lol), and king ace is most definately a good player as well, i think he just had an off game at the finals that's all. lol and for the people who think ally or king ace isn't good...you guys are crazy lol.
 

CO18

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i cant tell how good ally is because the other player wasn't that good
Kinagce is good just his 2ndaires. Hes not master of everyone like you. ;)

But yeah im pretty sure Kingace beat Seibrik in a mm at ch4 if u were wondering. That was his mk though(which is the good char) of his/only nadoes.
 

JesiahTEG

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How can you not tell how good Ally is? I can name like 5 things in each match he does that are impressive and require prediction and knowledge of the matchup. This isn't like Melee where you need a good opponent to be able to see from videos.
 

CO18

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How can you not tell how good Ally is? I can name like 5 things in each match he does that are impressive and require prediction and knowledge of the matchup. This isn't like Melee where you need a good opponent to be able to see from videos.
They can they just dont want to admit it for w/e reasons. /haters
 

napZzz

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They can they just dont want to admit it for w/e reasons. /haters
<3

just go watch the other vids if you guys hate on this set so much. He does lots of cool stuff I dont see other snakes do, like tech chase from the dthrow with dair for a kill ._.
 

SuSa

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I learned a lot from his snake xD the tech-chasing from dthrow is awesome, and the first time I've seen that happen.... lol (needs to watch more snake stuff :3)

Man I love maining random..... >.> (and getting cypher KO's. :D)
 

JesiahTEG

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Whats most important to watch are Ally's smart, spacing traps, not his Dthrow combos.

I saw a vid one time of him staying at perfect Ftilt range,pressuring their shield, then when they rolled behind him he Dair'd them. It was really impressive, considering I normally just turn and grab or turn and Ftilt, while other people dodge and roll away.
 

KingAce

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lool i find this so funny haha bcuz a lot of ppl who talk **** that say im bad didnt get to see ally 3 stock sliqs bowser and jv 3 stock JLs Wario

ill mm ANYone that thinks i suck n i probably would win too. i went marth and ddd in a lot of my pool matches too and i won most of them so obv my secondaries dont suck that much its just ally that ***** other people lool

but yeah my challenge still goes out ill mm anyone for any amount of money unless your m2k/ally :)

edit: im not tryin to sound cocky or anything like that but it just pisses me off when ppl think or region sux cuz i can get away with spamming and placing high... u think everyone from canada is stupid?:S thats how buffalo was too when jl/ambrose basically spammed and won doubles and canada still placed like wat 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th at that tourny?

then ch4 came around and even tho the turnout wasnt great the best still came out and i got 5th with ambrose comin 7th percon 9th and jl 13th... people who go by videos to judge someones skill are morons
 

OverLade

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It seems obvious to me that Ally is good from all the manuevers he's does against King Ace. Maybe your just stupid?
Hrnut is so good that he isn't impressed by even Ally.

The exception, not the rule. :p

I saw a vid one time of him staying at perfect Ftilt range,pressuring their shield, then when they rolled behind him he Dair'd them. It was really impressive, considering I normally just turn and grab or turn and Ftilt, while other people dodge and roll away.
It's these kind of things that make Ally genious.

Another trap he has, he lays down a grenade, at close range, then predicts you to roll around it, and has his way with you (Ftilt, Dair, grab).

Ally is good at making people do things he can easily punish (a lot of tech chasing, and pressuring).
 

Nic64

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I've seen snake players reverse short hop them and immediately drop it for weird mindgames at close range.

Snake has that WTF potential hardcore.
drunken snake ftw :)
 

g-regulate

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kingace i wouldnt worry about it, 95% of the character forums arent good at brawl, and 90% are just idiots who like to put down good players who actually place and get money for playing brawl, while they dont enter tourneys and play online a lot. you dont have anything to prove to these people.

im often told im a pretty mediocre snake, but tourney winnings in a competitive region pays the price of entry fee, so no complaints here.
 

Ulevo

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I played Ally, and watched most of his matches that day. It doesn't matter how good or bad Ace is, Ally's skill is undeniable. The only reason Ace went Wario/Falco was because he was intimidated about Snake having the edge on Meta Knight. It still wasn't the best decision. Regardless, Ally is a fantastic player, and I doubt anyone less than M2K could compete with him.

Criticize all you want, but Canada was there, watching the **** unfold.
 

"C"let

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the funny thing is we all said the same thing when ally first said he was coming to the montreal tournament and that his snake doesn't look anything impressive in the videos. the thing is with brawl is you can't tell the exact level of a player by watching his videos, but I assure you all that ally and kingace are better than most of you guys here. I heard it from the canadians that played m2k and azen that ally is at their level and he has a chance of winning. so I don't know why all this hate on ally when most of you guys never played him maybe because people in the states are used to underrate canada
 

Ayaz18

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I actually think that ace CAN be good, but the MK spam gives the message that he sucks.

I will cut you some slack cause it's Ally

but don't you deny it man, you Vs. Sliq is a prime example of spam that leads to victory
 

KingAce

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yea greg ur right its pointless to get mad lol
ayaz its abusable thats y i used it but i couldnt really spam nado against GaW or other mks but i still did fine so i can still do without it but why not abuse nado on bowser if its possible :S
ally... goto ch4.5 gtan is probably goin :p
 

Ayaz18

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man relying on spam isn't the "nobel" route. And I watched one match when you were in doubles, it wasn't that bad (you were fighting G&W) but the spam was focused using Nair and shuttle loop.

but that's why Brawl is gay, it allows spam

ohh well play to win right?
 

PND

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To everyone who says KingAce sucks / is a scrub:

Critical Hit 4 (top 16)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1: Azen Zagenite (Lucario/MetaKnight)
2: Mew2King (MetaKnight)
3: Seibrik/Snakekiller3000 (King Dedede)
4: G-regulate (Snake)
5: Chillindude829 (Metaknight/Falco)
5: KingAce (MetaKnight)
7: Ninjalink (Diddy Kong)
7: Ambrose (Ice Climbers)
9: Forte (MetaKnight)
9: Percon (Snake)
9: Plank (MetaKnight)
9: Snakeee (Zero Suit Samus)
13: Korn (King Dedede)
13: Atomsk (King Dedede)
13: Neo (Marth)
13: Chu Dat (Kirby)

Do you see those big names? 'Cuz I certainly do. Obviously placing 5th amongst all those great players was totally luck based :rolleyes: They must have been sandbagging or something, because there's no way that, you know, Canada can actually have good players at this game. [/sarcasm]

Carry on with the debate / praise / whatever, but stop the blind hating on KingAce. He def doesn't suck, and he's def not a scrub.

Praise time:
Awesome Ally is Awesome.
 

OverLade

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To everyone who says KingAce sucks / is a scrub:

Critical Hit 4 (top 16)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1: Azen Zagenite (Lucario/MetaKnight)
2: Mew2King (MetaKnight)
3: Seibrik/Snakekiller3000 (King Dedede)
4: G-regulate (Snake)
5: Chillindude829 (Metaknight/Falco)
5: KingAce (MetaKnight)
7: Ninjalink (Diddy Kong)
7: Ambrose (Ice Climbers)
9: Forte (MetaKnight)
9: Percon (Snake)
9: Plank (MetaKnight)
9: Snakeee (Zero Suit Samus)
13: Korn (King Dedede)
13: Atomsk (King Dedede)
13: Neo (Marth)
13: Chu Dat (Kirby)

Do you see those big names? 'Cuz I certainly do. Obviously placing 5th amongst all those great players was totally luck based :rolleyes: They must have been sandbagging or something, because there's no way that, you know, Canada can actually have good players at this game. [/sarcasm]

Carry on with the debate / praise / whatever, but stop the blind hating on KingAce. He def doesn't suck, and he's def not a scrub.

Praise time:
Awesome Ally is Awesome.
If Kingace simply relied on spam, then there's no way he would've beaten some of those players. Point prove.

Still, nadospam is a crutch you shouldn't have to rely on, because as soon as you fight someone who can counter it, you'll have to fight without any sense of security. Sliq had options against nado he simply didn't use (no Up B OSS?) and with them he probably would've won.
 
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