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A question about nervousness.

Get Low

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I've attended two Melee tournaments thus far, and I've had a bit of a problem at both. Whenever I play someone that I've never met, even if it's just friendlies, I get incredibly nervous because I'm afraid I'll do bad and look like a total noob. But as you may have guessed, the nervousness ends up becoming the key factor in me playing poorly, as my tech skill greatly decreases when I'm nervous.

So my question is, will this nervousness start to go away as I attend more tournaments and play more people, or is it just something that you're supposed to learn to work around?
 

Zivilyn Bane

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To answer the question though, yeah it will go away. Maybe five or so tournaments in you'll start to relax and have fun, and not get so nervous.
 

Pogogo

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My bigger concern when playing friendlies with someone who is better than me that it is boring for them. This happens a lot
 

Pogogo

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Thats so condescending and only seeks to establish the point but ok.
 

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Dont care what other people think.
Dont let people define how good you are.
Play as many friendlies as possible, get to know everyone, everyone is there to have a good time.
Dont go into a match thinking you are gona lose, no one you will play is perfect, trust in your own skills.
 

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oh man, I despise that feeling so much. what you can try and do, is take a breather, and just focus on the match, not the person you're playing, not the people talking in the background, just. the. game. Use calm mind if you have to. imo, doing good in the first match is always important because it gives you that confidence boost "hey, that wasn't so bad, I'm having fun!" to go on.

I invited someone from my region I met on smashboards to my house to help me train, I was nervous through the roof.
 

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Even now I still get really nervous whenever I play someone new (or someone who I know is really good). But I don't get nearly as nervous as I used to. I would say that feeling of being nervous gets better the more tournaments you go to. I know it's really hard to perform at your best when you're nervous. Try your best to stay calm.
 

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Well, no one ever STOPS being nervous usually lol, you just learn to channel the nervous energy into focus or you find a way to ignore it(I mean, tension heightens your senses and awareness anyway, so it's not like you want to totally get rid of it haha).

The nervousness you have is definitely something a loooot of people experience early in their gaming careers though, and I was definitely no exception lol. Don't let the issue get to you, because if you dwell on it then you'll only prolong your nerve problems haha. Just focus on playing and learning/winning and you'll be too focused on that to be distracted by nerves once you get used to being in a flow after so long. =)
 

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My bigger concern when playing friendlies with someone who is better than me that it is boring for them. This happens a lot
I'm really not a particularly good player but I have been on the other side of this exchange a few times, playing friendlies with people noticeably worse than I am. In all honesty I would -rather- be playing someone known/better than me to get the experience, but if I'm still sitting at the TV, then it means that I still find it worthwhile to be there. It's fun getting to try out new things without the pressure of "This is a known player who is better than me, I need to try my best to make sure I perform well enough to satisfy me."

Probably the most fun thing for me to do in that situation is to talk with whoever I'm playing, regardless of what it's about. If I feel like I can give advice, and they ask, I'll give it. It's particularly fun talking about my own thought process and comparing that to others'.

So basically what I'm saying is if you think you look like a total noob or are worried about boring your opponent, don't be. They'll let you know if they're bored by leaving the TV, and if you're not a known player, you've got no reputation to keep so looking like a noob doesn't mean anything, haha. Instead, ask for advice! If there's something that you can't figure out or you're having trouble with something specific, ask about it. At least in my case, getting to act all knowledgeable and cool to people is pretty damn fun and ego-stroking.

There are some unfortunate situations though. At Pound 5 I was playing someone who, after a few games, said that I was too far beyond his level for him to learn anything and left the TV. If you read this, sorry about that! I just try not to sandbag in friendlies against people I don't know, to show that I respect them as competitors and players. On the other end, I try to avoid TVs with two or more known players on them since they're usually practicing hard for bracket, or all know each other by virtue of being good at the game and at most nationals, and I'd rather not get in the way of that.

As for nervousness, I feel like I'm pretty lucky in that regard. When I play tournament matches, it seems like I just automatically pull away from the pressure on me and focus entirely on the game. For example, I was playing D1 in my pool at Pound 5 (can't remember if it was first or second round) and we were tied 1-1. I was up three stocks to one in game three. He adapted to me and started playing defensively in a way I couldn't figure out and ended up coming back to win, but at no point in the match did I ever think about possibly losing to that comeback. Losing my second and third stock didn't have any effect on my ability to play, they were just lost stocks and losing two stocks without taking one didn't register as being embarrassing or worthy of nervousness. It wasn't until a little while after the game that I realized I lost three stocks without taking one of his, and how embarrassing that could be.

I remember I wasn't nervous at my first two tournaments either, those being RoM2 and Pound 4, since I was terrible at the game and knew it, so I didn't have any expectations of myself to meet. The first tournament where I was ever really nervous was actually a tournament at my university--since at that point I was among the best players there, I had expectations that I had to hold up to, and that nervousness caused me to fail to do that. This persisted through two or three more tournaments like that, but ever since then I've gotten used to it and just sort of pull away from nervousness automatically.

edit: I do feel bad playing people when they ask for my name though. Everyone hears "Cobalt" as "Col Bol" the first time, and then I have to disappoint them if they don't already know what Col Bol looks like and thus know that I'm not him :(
 

Dimitris

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I'm really not a particularly good player but I have been on the other side of this exchange a few times, playing friendlies with people noticeably worse than I am. In all honesty I would -rather- be playing someone known/better than me to get the experience, but if I'm still sitting at the TV, then it means that I still find it worthwhile to be there. It's fun getting to try out new things without the pressure of "This is a known player who is better than me, I need to try my best to make sure I perform well enough to satisfy me."
Well that helps, never looked at it that way. I hope other good players see it like that. I always thing I'm boring everyone to death.
 

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Hey Get Low, I played you in Michigan.

Something else I used to do when I play someone new is to have a short chat with them beforehand. Ask them where they're from, how long they're playing, or something like that. Put a smile on your face and they'll probably do the same. A friendly atmosphere plus a few laughs will make you a lot less nervous. Now that my nerves are under control I still chat a bit before matches because it's fun. lol
 

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Well, no one ever STOPS being nervous usually lol, you just learn to channel the nervous energy into focus
yes yes yes yes yes yes x1000



turn your nervousness into focus and control. focus on the game and only on the game.

nervousness is natural, but it becomes really dangerous when you lose your confidence and start distracting yourself from the match.

like when those voices come into your head "omg i can't believe i'm gonna lose to this ******, i wonder who im gonna have to fight in loser's, i wonder what the youtube comments are gonna be after they see that amazing combo he did on me, i really wish i didn't miss that shinespike now i can't win"

all those thoughts outside the game will **** you, turn it all into supreme focus and try your hardest to do better inside the game and inside the game only.
 

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Some people have it easier than others. Mainly, you don't want to GET RID of your nerves, but as said above, channel it into greater focus and precision.
 

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yes yes yes yes yes yes x1000



turn your nervousness into focus and control. focus on the game and only on the game.

nervousness is natural, but it becomes really dangerous when you lose your confidence and start distracting yourself from the match.

like when those voices come into your head "omg i can't believe i'm gonna lose to this ******, i wonder who im gonna have to fight in loser's, i wonder what the youtube comments are gonna be after they see that amazing combo he did on me, i really wish i didn't miss that shinespike now i can't win"

all those thoughts outside the game will **** you, turn it all into supreme focus and try your hardest to do better inside the game and inside the game only.
This. I sometimes psych myself out by thinking stuff like "OK, now don't **** up."

I think if you thoroughly enjoy the experience you're likely to do better, but maybe that's just me.
 

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It's been such a challenge to get over being nervous... but I think it's more of an anxiety issue for me personally. I lose focus when I feel this way and then I doubt myself. It's progressively gotten better over time (recently) but I still get that way at times, but I think it has more to do with my personality more than anything (maybe). Who knows... but I try to tell myself before matches that I gotta focus, and there's not reason to be nervous and it does help. Some good suggestions in this thread though!
 

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Hey we also played this weekend!
Our first game was close, I think you were even leading it most of the time, but I got kinda lucky with some stuff and came back and won, game 2 i felt that you were trying too hard to force the issue of killing me or getting the first hit, while in the first game you were patient and baited me into more stuff. Don't let losses get to your head, stick to your game plan, and like PP and Lovage said, channel that nervousness into focus.
 

Get Low

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Hey we also played this weekend!
Our first game was close, I think you were even leading it most of the time, but I got kinda lucky with some stuff and came back and won, game 2 i felt that you were trying too hard to force the issue of killing me or getting the first hit, while in the first game you were patient and baited me into more stuff. Don't let losses get to your head, stick to your game plan, and like PP and Lovage said, channel that nervousness into focus.
Thanks for the bit of insight and the advice, Jungle. It helps. :)
 

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So basically what I'm saying is if you think you look like a total noob or are worried about boring your opponent, don't be. They'll let you know if they're bored by leaving the TV, and if you're not a known player, you've got no reputation to keep so looking like a noob doesn't mean anything, haha. Instead, ask for advice! If there's something that you can't figure out or you're having trouble with something specific, ask about it. At least in my case, getting to act all knowledgeable and cool to people is pretty damn fun and ego-stroking.
This is good advice.
 

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yup

it's like this

i knew how good you are when we played, no reason to be stubborn and not ask for advice. if you ask for advice it lets me know that you're actually interested in this game and wanna get better. in fact it'll make me think a lot higher of you than if you just got ***** and tried to act like you didn't care anyways.
 

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MANY people simply just give up when they get nervous in any video game.

if you stick with it you'll only be improving, practice on friends with even skill a bunch, and sometimes you need to get ***** to see where you're at curently.
 

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Its not really the nerves that **** me, but I usually start thinking very consciously about stuff that doesnt even matter, and then im conscious of my thinking during the game and tell myself to stop it, but theres no point in telling yourself because you will just remind yourself of it. I can't keep my focus/head in the game :\
 
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**** your opponent so hard that you feel comfortable and make them feel nervous instead

feels great when you know someone can give you trouble but they are so flustered that they mess up half their stuff

but when you fight close to your level, you just need to learn to play while nervous so you can play as close as possible to your best. no other way around it

ALWAYS ASK BETTER PLAYERS TO PLAY and ask for advice too if you really want to get better quick. most decent/great smashers are always down to help and simply showing that you want to get better will make everyone want to make you ****
 

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Its not really the nerves that **** me, but I usually start thinking very consciously about stuff that doesnt even matter, and then im conscious of my thinking during the game and tell myself to stop it, but theres no point in telling yourself because you will just remind yourself of it. I can't keep my focus/head in the game :\
Play while sleep deprived then. Your technical skill will actually improve, and you won't actively think about things that are irrelevant.

When you're tired, you don't think as much, making you rely more on muscle memory. This makes things you've practiced in the past much easier to execute since you're not second-guessing yourself. This is also helpful with things such as edge guarding.

You also benefit from not losing your reaction time if you were to play intoxicated.

People REALLY underestimate going to a smash tournament without any sleep. Personally most of my best performances have been 100% without sleep.
 

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Well if being sleep deprived helps you then by all means.. but it is definitely not something that is true for everyone. What is true for everyone is that everyone gets nervous and eventually you find ways to deal with it.
 

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Nervousness will lessen with time. You can never get rid of it completely, but as you attend more tournaments, you will be able to retain close to your full skill even while nervous.
 

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You have to let go of the outcome. You have to not think about losing or winning but instead doing your best at all times and really focusing on the game. Don't get stuck in your head and don't listen to the crowd and don't think about what other people might be thinking of your performance and all those things. Just focus. Easier said than done, but that's it.
 

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I remember at Pound 4 I didn't win a single round in my pool and I was so determined on playing strictly good characters like Sheik and Samus. But at Pound 5 I just had the mindset as "so everyone I exist and play as many people I can". So I decided not to care and just play Young Link throughout it all.

It turned out pretty well and it was actually my first time making it out of 1st round pools in any tourney I attended.

Moral of the story. Play for fun and not care what others may think.
 
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