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Official 4BR Tier List v1.0 - Competitive Impressions

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KuroganeHammer

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I actually think Robin is a really good character who's kinda like Bowser in that he's held back by a few top tier matchups.
 

Kofu

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You only get seven uses of the Levin Sword at a time. There's a reason for that.
Doesn't mean it's not a brilliant tool anyway.

Robin's... decently balanced as he is. Not great but he's solid. Slight mobility buffs are probably all he needs (not that I think he'll get them lol).
 

ARGHETH

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You only get seven uses of the Levin Sword at a time. There's a reason for that.
*eight.
Yeah, and it leaves you with bronze aerials for six seconds. It's rather easy to keep people out for that time, though.
 

Man Li Gi

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I'm out here like

Seriously, I can't understand why even MODERATORS or VETERANS of this thread are going crazy. It's still beyond funny.

I'm ready for a spam warning though.
 

valakmtnsmash4

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I swear the thread is like this right now for no 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I'm out here like

Seriously, I can't understand why even MODERATORS or VETERANS of this thread are going crazy. It's still beyond funny.

I'm ready for a spam warning though.
Lmao you took the words right out of my mouth.
I was hesitating to post in the m2 debate because I know things get a bit weird here during patches.
It will be back to normal soon
 

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I'm not going to touch the subject of whether or not Mewtwo is too good - jeez that's a sore subject around here - but I do think that a lot of people are misinterpreting what game balance is supposed to achieve. -snip-
I get your point, but It just bothers me that Mewtwo is getting so much attention when Bayonetta, Cloud, Diddy, Sheik, Rosalina, and several other characters would have to be toned down before, AND to a greater degree than Mewtwo. It's just mind boggling.
 
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I get your point, but It just bothers me that Mewtwo is getting so much attention when Bayonetta, Cloud, Diddy, Sheik, Rosalina, and several other characters would have to be toned down before, AND to a greater degree than Mewtwo. It's just mind boggling.
Mewtwo is the ***** of the week.
 

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I mean, it's just like:

"A big patch is coming. This is especially significant in light of all the recent controversy surrounding not just Bayonetta and Cloud, but also several key characters at the lower end of the roster."

"Totally. Hey, you know who we should talk about that isn't related to any of that? Mewtwo."

"MOTHER****** I WILL FIGHT YOU ABOUT MEWTWO."

Tune in next time, when the thread loses their minds about R.O.B. and Wii Fit Trainer.
 

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I mean, it's just like:

"A big patch is coming. This is especially significant in light of all the recent controversy surrounding not just Bayonetta and Cloud, but also several key characters at the lower end of the roster."

"Totally. Hey, you know who we should talk about that isn't related to any of that? Mewtwo."

"MOTHER****** I WILL FIGHT YOU ABOUT MEWTWO."

Tune in next time, when the thread loses their minds about R.O.B. and Wii Fit Trainer.
I could totally see this thread be a sitcom
I have never wanted anything more in my life
Anyway let's talk about characters that actually could be changed, like cloud or bayonetta.
 

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I could totally see this thread be a sitcom
I have never wanted anything more in my life
Anyway let's talk about characters that actually could be changed, like cloud or bayonetta.
Again? We already talk about them every other day or so.
 

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Again? We already talk about them every other day or so.
Well that's what I get for not being on this place often lol, I thought that some cloud discussion would change the discussion, especially seeing the rise of LCS instead of finishing touch due to patch 1.1.5
 
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I mean, it's just like:

"A big patch is coming. This is especially significant in light of all the recent controversy surrounding not just Bayonetta and Cloud, but also several key characters at the lower end of the roster."

"Totally. Hey, you know who we should talk about that isn't related to any of that? Mewtwo."

"MOTHER****** I WILL FIGHT YOU ABOUT MEWTWO."

Tune in next time, when the thread loses their minds about R.O.B. and Wii Fit Trainer.
I'm predicting Peach and Duck Hunt.
 

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I predict Zard will get some random adjustment to u-smash. He always gets one of those after a good set of buffs.
Also i think Pac-man's grab will be fixed, his grab is one of the few janky ones left.
 
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I think that Robin is a pretty great design. Clear strengths and weaknesses (zoning, confirms from projectiles vs his speed and recovery) and a unique mechanic that doesn't entirely hinder or elevate him. He got a good buff (Checkmate) that helps him keep up with the meta but isn't crazy because his grab is mediocre. He makes relative sense and stands out because of his tools and how he operates. Of course that leaves him with a number of bad matchups but them's the ropes.

Sheik is also a pretty cool design. She's based around safety and quickness in exchange for lacking kill power and being pretty easy to kill herself. Of course, her two strengths happen to be arguably the most powerful things to have in the game, but again that's just how things go. You definitely get the sense that those who succeed with her are very intelligent players who follow her philosophy.

I hope to perhaps find a character whose philosophy I can subscribe to.
 

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With the way the thread is going, Mewtwo and Greninja talk will be banned here.

I officially have no purpose anymore. It's like this thread doesn't want me to be happy ; - ;

:150:
 

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Odds of changes to Pac-man's grab: 5%

Odds of people thinking there are (and reporting) changes to Pac-man's grab: 100%.


I still remember when people swore Falco's run speed increased for 1.1.5. It got me really hyped. Placebo is the worst part of every patch. :mad:
 

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I mean, it's just like:

"A big patch is coming. This is especially significant in light of all the recent controversy surrounding not just Bayonetta and Cloud, but also several key characters at the lower end of the roster."

"Totally. Hey, you know who we should talk about that isn't related to any of that? Mewtwo."

"MOTHER****** I WILL FIGHT YOU ABOUT MEWTWO."

Tune in next time, when the thread loses their minds about R.O.B. and Wii Fit Trainer.
Well

We could talk about Greninja instead. :bee:
 

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For reals tho, I could totally make a webcomic out of the CCI once my Drawing Tablet is fixed.
:196:


Also this:
 
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I mean, it's just like:

"A big patch is coming. This is especially significant in light of all the recent controversy surrounding not just Bayonetta and Cloud, but also several key characters at the lower end of the roster."

"Totally. Hey, you know who we should talk about that isn't related to any of that? Mewtwo."

"MOTHER****** I WILL FIGHT YOU ABOUT MEWTWO."

Tune in next time, when the thread loses their minds about R.O.B. and Wii Fit Trainer.
At the rate we are going we will be complaining about Lucina's Side Smash very soon...
 
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I really do enjoy that a character can go from never/hardly/barely mentioned for 100 pages, then can go to, "Omg this is stupid nerf it" tier levels of discussion after 1 notable win. Has happened in literally every version of this thread at least once. You'd think people would have a better filter for their kneejerk by now.

I mean Falcon learned: He knees, he takes a year and thinks about what he just did. 19 frames in Melee (no L-Cancel) to 30 in Smash 4. Let's take after Falcon, please?
 
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Well

We could talk about Greninja instead. :bee:
On a serious note, is there a reason for his lackluster results? Is it him being too technical? If so, why do we see Peach doing as well as she's done recently? Is he a part of an archetype that another high-tier character fills better? Is he "too honest", ala Pit?
 

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On a serious note, is there a reason for his lackluster results? Is it him being too technical? If so, why do we see Peach doing as well as she's done recently? Is he a part of an archetype that another high-tier character fills better? Is he "too honest", ala Pit?
I think it's mostly representation. The US has a couple upper mid - high level Greninja players (Gibus, Techei, Venia come to mind) but no top level ones unless I'm forgetting something big/underestimating someone. Japan has Some but has he been to anything lately? aMSa is another fair weather friend of the frog. Europe has the best Greninja results. I think strictly speaking, Europe has fewer large-scale high profile events, so less relevant results. I could be wrong, just my thoughts.

Also he's kinda hard.
 

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For reals tho, I could totally make a webcomic out of the CCI once my Drawing Tablet is fixed.
:196:


Also this:
'No order don't complain' XD

Ike, Roy and Lucario's placements tho
 
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On a serious note, is there a reason for his lackluster results? Is it him being too technical? If so, why do we see Peach doing as well as she's done recently? Is he a part of an archetype that another high-tier character fills better? Is he "too honest", ala Pit?
:4peach: is a (perfect) waifu and therefore has great players playing her.

No SlayerZ or Umeki doing the same in the States for :4greninja:.

Recent results are from SlayerZ and Umeki going to more.
 

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On a serious note, is there a reason for his lackluster results? Is it him being too technical? If so, why do we see Peach doing as well as she's done recently? Is he a part of an archetype that another high-tier character fills better? Is he "too honest", ala Pit?
A lot of it seems to have to do with a small playerbase at least at top level. We have iStudying who does perform well consistently but he's still one person and for the most part he's in Europe (although him coming to GOML might help) and we have Some in Japan who has been pretty inactive for a while. There's others like Venia that are limited to local level tournaments as well.

For what it's worth I also tend to place well in Brazil although the largest tournament we've had so far in my state had 72 entrants (and at the 28th we're gonna have one that might reach 80 participants but who knows)

The reason we're seeing Peach doing as well as she is now is because her best players are showing up for stuff more often, for the most part.

Greninja tends to perform decently at least when one of the notable frogs does show up even if they might not win the event itself. iStudy getting 25th at Pound was disappointing but still not a bad result considering how stacked the tournament was.
 

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On a serious note, is there a reason for his lackluster results? Is it him being too technical? If so, why do we see Peach doing as well as she's done recently? Is he a part of an archetype that another high-tier character fills better? Is he "too honest", ala Pit?
Shiki and a bunch of other Gekkouga mains will be going to Umebura 23 (RIP SOME)

Venia is officially coming out of retirement and will attend the last KTAR

Istudying, darkaura, and JW will attend GOML

Istudying, Venia, and other american greninja's will be attending smash con

by the end of the summer his results will be better, give us some time fam.

:150:
 
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Shiki, Some, and a bunch of other Gekkouga mains will be going to Umebura 23

Venia is officially coming out of retirement and will attend the last KTAR

Istudying, darkaura, and JW will attend GOML

Istudying, Venia, and other american greninja's will be attending smash con

by the end of the summer his results will be better, give us some time fam.

:150:
Some cancelled his Umebura registration, a real shame:(
 

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So what hitboxes just don't functionally seem to work properly? I know I already mentioned Link's grounded Up-B, and someone else mentioned one of Little Mac's hitboxes (I forget which?), but are there other hitboxes that just seem to not work properly? I've also heard DHD's smashes in the thread.
 

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I mean, it's just like:

"A big patch is coming. This is especially significant in light of all the recent controversy surrounding not just Bayonetta and Cloud, but also several key characters at the lower end of the roster."

"Totally. Hey, you know who we should talk about that isn't related to any of that? Mewtwo."

"MOTHER****** I WILL FIGHT YOU ABOUT MEWTWO."

Tune in next time, when the thread loses their minds about R.O.B. and Wii Fit Trainer.
I was under the impression that patch related discussion is more suited to other threads, no?

Or so we were told earlier today by IsmaR.

So what hitboxes just don't functionally seem to work properly? I know I already mentioned Link's grounded Up-B, and someone else mentioned one of Little Mac's hitboxes (I forget which?), but are there other hitboxes that just seem to not work properly? I've also heard DHD's smashes in the thread.
Mac's ftilt doesn't work sometimes.
 
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I was under the impression that patch related discussion is more suited to other threads, no?

Or so we were told earlier today by IsmaR.


Mac's ftilt doesn't work sometimes.
Patch discussion thread is locked and presumably will only open once the patch comes out. So, in the meantime, the stuff goes here.
 

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For reals tho, I could totally make a webcomic out of the CCI once my Drawing Tablet is fixed.
:196:


Also this:
Well, we can see that Abadango knows nothing about making a correct tier list.
Even my sub-par tier lists are better than THAT mess.
Seriously Abadango, you HAVE to make a tier list for bait?
 
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