(」・ω・)」 MARS la Marf in Smash 4 (／・ω・)／

[B.A.M.]

Do we have any data on throw frame advantages? I want to start writing about Throw frame traps in the compendium. Also, any marth try out the up B OoS^Roll OS or the Usmash OoS^Roll OS? Any thoughts?



EDIT: LOL THE FUTURE IS NAOW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl7qXT29taU

 

[C.J.]

Do we have any data on throw frame advantages? I want to start writing about Throw frame traps in the compendium. Also, any marth try out the up B OoS^Roll OS or the Usmash OoS^Roll OS? Any thoughts?



EDIT: LOL THE FUTURE IS NAOW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl7qXT29taU

I know at one point Shaya or someone posted frame advantage on every character from fthrow at 0%

Also old grab release is old. It's so impractical to grab wario at the ledge like that. Onstage wario will tech to gayness so whatever (would be less important if you can FH dair but that wasn't shown). Additionally, usmash does a lot more damage.

 

[Reizilla]

FH dair works. If you dair onstage before 11%, Wario can't tech. Fast fall mix up if you time it right. Regrab > up smash if they get caught off guard.

 

[C.J.]

Yeah... I'll take my guaranteed damage and not deal with hoping they're bad, lol.

 

[∫unk]

yeah if you somehow grab a wario you don't want to be wasting it on stuff like that

 

[KillLock]

Do we have any data on throw frame advantages? I want to start writing about Throw frame traps in the compendium. Also, any marth try out the up B OoS^Roll OS or the Usmash OoS^Roll OS? Any thoughts?



EDIT: LOL THE FUTURE IS NAOW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl7qXT29taU

Awww ****, an influx of white marths are on my doorstep, wut do.

 

[Reizilla]

Combo video tho

 

[Zano]

how do fight wolf

 

[MintyFlesh]

^

carefully

 

[Zano]

oddly, that answers my question

 

[Reizilla]

Just camp him. His projectile sucks.

 

[Raziek]

^

carefully

Quoted for truth.

 

[BladeWise]

I'll be making a combo video sometime in the near-ish future.
I need help with a good title.

 

[Player-3]

name it

you can't spell rap3 without p3

 

[PEACE7]

I'll be making a combo video sometime in the near-ish future.
I need help with a good title.

Is it a Marth combo video? Or other characters as well?

 

[BladeWise]

Marth combo video

 

[PEACE7]

nevermind this lol.

 

[Anthon1996]

I'll be making a combo video sometime in the near-ish future.
I need help with a good title.

I think I got a title.

The Tip is the Most Sensitive Part

 

[∫unk]

junk getting ***** T-T

 

[Player-1]

Hey guys, I made a video showing release/a bit of chaingrab stuff for a friend of mine trying to get into competitive smash and is using Marth, but if you wanted to use it for future references here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apvI4v6rGRg

 

[Reizilla]

You banned MK tho

and some people find it easier to fsmash tip Wario if you stutter step forward and fsmash back.

 

[C.J.]

You forgot:
GR-> Stutterstep Fsmash on squirtle.
Fthrowx3->fsmash doesn't work on fox if he just hold up (well, it does but it won't tipper)
If you can do it to fox/falco, you can do it to sheik
Fthrow-> dair works on pretty much everyone @ 0%
GR->Dash attack/fair works on DDD and Snake if they struggle out (air release ofc)
GR->fair also works on Diddy
The plethora of fthrow->fsmashes, but I don't blame you for leaving those out

Also GR->uair is really hard on MK ._.

Good video though, could definitely see that being useful for your friend

 

[Player-1]

*posted on youtube cuz I saw it first*

yeah I was just helping my friend get a basic idea of what can be done, not trying to show every little thing that can be done.


edit: and I got GR>fair on diddy btw 0_o

 

[C.J.]

*posted on youtube cuz I saw it first*

yeah I was just helping my friend get a basic idea of what can be done, not trying to show every little thing that can be done.


edit: and I got GR>fair on diddy btw 0_o

Huh, how'd I miss that one. My bad!

 

[ScareMl]

nothing works on lucario, not even f-throw f-smash D:

 

[C.J.]

Dthrow might, idk.

Either way, fthrow->fair or fthrow->DB

 

[BladeWise]

I've gotten Fthrow -> stutter Fsmash on Lucario plenty of times, but the timing is incredibly strict.

 

[Raziek]

If memory serves, you have to read their DI for Lucario. If they DI properly you shouldn't hit them with either, but either F-throw or D-throw works if they DI wrong. Someone correct me if that's not accurate.

 

[Shaya]

There is no DI.
He's in hit stun well before tumble comes along.

properly executed stutter steps is a guaranteed tipper.

 

[Raziek]

Thanks for that, Shaya. Memory did not serve, it seems. ._.

Is that with F-throw, D-throw or both?

 

[Shaya]

Most characters above Mario weight (hell its probably lower) can't be dthrown tippered :o

 

[Reizilla]

I think you got that from the old guide, Raz. I remember that too.

 

[Raziek]

I think you got that from the old guy, Raz. I remember that too.

Yeah, that was where I remembered it from.

 

[PEACE7]

Also FOW using marth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t2Xzr3L4rU

 

[Raziek]

OH GOD WHY DID THAT MK FAIR HIS SHIELD AT THE LEDGE.

He deserved to die at 91.

 

[PEACE7]

That mk seemed soooo nervous imo.

 

[Raziek]

It's depressing that the MK was that garbage and still almost won Game 1 against a clearly more skilled player.

Like really, what is this bair on shield ****?

 

[PEACE7]

LOL yea just wait, game 2 is funny.

 

[Raziek]

Wow. Just wow..... that MK is awful. It's like he doesn't understand what DI is, or even remotely how you should be DI'ing against Marth.

And 2 SDs on your own CP? Goddamn.

 

[Nike.]

Ehh.
His marth is pretty good, obv makes some of the non-marth-main mistakes.
It did look more like a psychological advantage, though. MK looked pretty nervous.