☆ Official Luigi Match-Up Thread! ☆

DerpDaBerp · Mar 29, 2010

Assuming you stay Luigi against him, where should one CP DDD?

ScAtt77 · Mar 30, 2010

On paper, Brinstar looks like it could be a good cp against D3. The low ceiling allows you to kill him a bit earlier and the lava could save you from potential gimps.

HyL! · Mar 30, 2010

i usually take d3 to rc or bf, but that's just me

Chaosgriffin · Mar 31, 2010

I like PS1 for D3, the only bad thing is you have watch out for wall infinites

DerpDaBerp · Mar 31, 2010

Brinstar sounds pretty good actually. I can't see a chain grab going on for very long on any surface there, right?

Rising-Tide · Mar 31, 2010

yeah i'd prolly do brinstar on dedede.

btw, i f*cking hate lucario. any tips? stage choices?

yoshq · Mar 31, 2010

jab upb, and don't pick yi

HyL! · Mar 31, 2010

i take lucario to bf if i can, usually most of them are very predictable with the aura sphere, or rollcario, and don't take platforms well. but that's just me

TreK · Mar 31, 2010

Vs DeDeDe I cp Halberd cus I suck on Brinstar. I still think Brinstar>Halberd against him.

Vs Lucario, I want to know too =@
Lylat used to work for me, but I didn't fight any lucario for months...

yoshq · Mar 31, 2010

Teneban said:
Vs DeDeDe I cp Halberd cus I suck on Brinstar. I still think Brinstar>Halberd against him.

Vs Lucario, I want to know too =@
Lylat used to work for me, but I didn't fight any lucario for months...

halberd is terrible against d3. that's what they cp against us.

Chaosgriffin · Apr 1, 2010

yoshq said:
halberd is terrible against d3. that's what they cp against us.

On the ship, Halberd is huge, and he can chaingrab you all the way across the stage. So get ready to eat 30-40% maybe more, depending on where the D3 started the CG.

yoshq · Apr 1, 2010

Chaosgriffin said:
On the ship, Halberd is huge, and he can chaingrab you all the way across the stage. So get ready to eat 30-40% maybe more, depending on where the D3 started the CG.

no, d3 can't cg luigi, but there is the edge of the ship or something where it counts as a wall and, and he can hit you through the stage.

DerpDaBerp · Apr 1, 2010

I played Bloodhawk's Lucario recently and lost on Brinstar (for whatever that's worth :/ ).

They've got pretty hardcore lock-down in the air. The only one I found relatively reliable was our Bair.

It's the general consensus among Lucario players to not use double team so:
1. If they do, it has to be timed really well, you pretty much have to be extremely predictable or they'll just be purely lucky. Not to mention how it isn;t even gauranteed to hit since you can put up a shield.
2. just don't worry about falling into it, one less factor to consider.

A fully charged Aura Sphere has noticably more priority than baby aura spheres, despite the Lucario's Aura effect.

While I may not have the best idea as to how to kill, it should be said that knowing the percentages he can die at are extremely important (I mean like, especially for Lucario, since that should be a general tip for anyone) so you can focus on getting him out of there before he can wreck ****. Don't forget that the Aura effect also applies with the number of stocks they are up or down by.

Hope this helps and isn't already kinda self-evident

BigLøu · Apr 1, 2010

yoshq said:
no, d3 can't cg luigi, but there is the edge of the ship or something where it counts as a wall and, and he can hit you through the stage.

D3 can cg luigi, he just needs to buffer a shiled grab after dashing, as it gives him a slightly larger range for grabbing.

The timing is really strict though.

Chaosgriffin · Apr 1, 2010

BigLøu said:
D3 can cg luigi, he just needs to buffer a shiled grab after dashing, as it gives him a slightly larger range for grabbing.

The timing is really strict though.

Yeah it is possible its just hard to do without practice. If the D3 has not practiced the timing for it then he will most likely not be able to do it. But good D3's will have it down.

ScAtt77 · Apr 1, 2010

I'm still not too sure about D3s cg being viable even with practice. IIRC, they only have like 1 frame to grab Luigi with before he just slides away.

HyL! · Apr 2, 2010

doesn't d3 have an infinite on luigi?

Chaosgriffin · Apr 2, 2010

DScaleb said:
doesn't d3 have an infinite on luigi?

Yes he does. However, most tourneys now ban it.

Technodeath · Apr 2, 2010

the ones i attend dont ban the infinite, however, i dont think any of the D3's where i live are good enough to pull it off.

TheMike · Apr 2, 2010

The tournaments I attend don't ban it, too. However, the DDD players which I play against do it. Not only on tournaments, but also on meetings.

Chaosgriffin · Apr 4, 2010

Well maybe its just the tourneys in texas then

TreK · Apr 4, 2010

my crew's DDD is able to chain grab Luigi and his tech skill is like... Near casual.
It's not that hard.

Infinites are banned in France too.

Knubs. · Apr 6, 2010

The fact that Luigi can get easily Shield Grabbed by Dedede doesn't help when the infinite is allowed either.

$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$ · Apr 7, 2010

Standing infinite is such a b***h.....

BSP · Apr 9, 2010

I usually don't have trouble with the infinite, but D3'S grab range and throws alone give me enough problems.

Cable · Apr 9, 2010

Whats up Luigi mainers can i get some advice how is falco vs Luigi any good??? let me kno

yoshq · Apr 9, 2010

yoshq said:
i'll Just Say Right Off The Bat That I Lose To Falcos Sometimes, But I'll Try To Help Anyway.
If All He's Doing Is Running Around And Shielding At The Beginning Of The Stock Looking For The Grab, Then If You Feel Confident That You Will Land The Grab When You Try It And He's Not Spot Dodging Too Much, Do It. Then If He's In Said Mindset, He Will Almost Surely Air Dodge After You Dthrow, So You Can Get Another Grab. Then You Can Do W/e Mixups And Stuff.

If You're Not Confident You Can Get The Grab And He's Spotdodging Too Much, Utilts Are Your Friend. Usually After He Gets That Chaingrab To Spike, He Changes, So Read His Playstyle.

If He's Zooming Back And Forth And Lasering, Crawl, Nado, And Roll Utilt. If He's Basing The Playstyle On Random Air Moves, You Can Shield Or Spotdodge And Just Trade Some Random Hits (or Maybe Something Else Since I'm Not Good Against This Playstyle).

As For The Kill Game, You Can Always Spot Dodge Him When He Runs Up For An Upsmash And Upb Him. As For The Fsmash, Just Be Patient And Don't Always Try To Punish It.

To Punish The Phantasm, The Green Missile Always Hits Him Out Of It As Long As He's Not Above You. The Nair Is Good Too, As Long As You're A Bit Above Him And He Can't Hit Your Upper Body.

Get Some Other Input On This Because I'm Not Particularly Good At This Mu.

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Suspect · Apr 9, 2010

Let's Discuss Luigi vs Marth (please) and Luigi vs (Sonic)

DerpDaBerp · Apr 10, 2010

lol, marth

Powershield it.

BigLøu · Apr 11, 2010

Cable said:
Whats up Luigi mainers can i get some advice how is falco vs Luigi any good??? let me kno

I think falco is like, really hard. The main thing about falco that corrupts Luigi's game play is that he rivals Luigi in the air, and straight up beats him on the ground. A good bit of Luigi's game revolves around him getting a jab to (insert either grab, d smash, up b. You get the drift) then following up with reads in the air.

Falco can shut this down easily because first off, he is quite unpredictable in the air. It's hard to bait and punish falco when he can phantasm away safely.

2nd, falco's jab is absolutely absurd. He can jab Luigi out of anything that he does except for a full 3 hit jab combo. Lasers can be a hassle as well, but I think the main thing that shuts down Luigi in this match-up is falco's jab and its quick startup and safe end.

$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$ · Apr 11, 2010

Don't pick FD and SV on Falco players.

DerpDaBerp · Apr 11, 2010

Luigi is typically able to crawl under Falco's SH lasers (unless they manage to silent laser)

SSSnake · Apr 17, 2010

to FD!

luigi aint goin to fd for falco, unless you want to do us a favor :shyguy:

KoRoBeNiKi · Apr 17, 2010

ATTENTION EVERYONE, THE LUIGI-MARTH MATCHUP IS 70-30 LUIGI

BigLou beat MikeHaze

DTP · Apr 17, 2010

Hot .

yoshq · Apr 20, 2010

no

wrong

he beat mikehaze ****ing twice. and atomsk's mk.

Knubs. · Apr 20, 2010

yoshq said:
no

wrong

he beat mikehaze ****ing twice. and atomsk's mk.

This is why there was no livestream. Censor this **** from the public.

ThunderSt0rm · Apr 20, 2010

best way to momentum cancel with Luigi?

$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$ · Apr 24, 2010

Shadowfirex100 said:
This is why there was no livestream. Censor this **** from the public.

LOL, I know rite.

AxelPurpleMissle · Apr 26, 2010

$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$ said:
LOL, I know rite.

Shadowfirex100 said:
This is why there was no livestream. Censor this **** from the public.

LOLOL
I would of loved,... to see the match up match.

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