ZSS General Discussion

[BioDG]

Uh, what are your skype names? >_> Mine is Fiskido, so yeah add me I guess.

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[#HBC | ZoZo]

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[Zanx8]

Okay, added both of you now.

 

[ぱみゅ]

You can't camp DDD. Our camping game sucks.

But ZSS' camping is batter than DDD's approach/poke... That's why it somehow works.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Mine is

<---- right under there.


And i can tell by how big and unorganized your signature is.

Papa Mink knows all.

 

[NickRiddle]

But ZSS' camping is batter than DDD's approach/poke... That's why it somehow works.

No it isn't.
That's why it works if the DDD is bad.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I was playing a bad DDD

I was using Neut B to stop the waddles.
Then i was charging one, gordo came out, i was too close and stuck in Neut B lag.

Sucked *** and rage CPd ICs

 

[NickRiddle]

Just PS Waddles if you're scared of Gordo.
Then d-smash them.
The Waddles are stuck, and you refresh the moves you care about.

 

[ぱみゅ]

Then I guess I'm just bad at this game..

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I'm terribad.

 

[Zanx8]

Sooner or later I'll be kicking *** in this game.

 

[infiniteV115]

Is it really worth it to dsmash the waddles?
I like being able to dsmash lock and to dsmash x3-->uair, but if it's too stale then it isn't guaranteed. :\
Isn't it better to just jab cancel them?

 

[BioDG]

Why would you dsmashx3-->uair waddle-dees?

 

[infiniteV115]

No no no
If you stale your dsmash on the waddle dees, then when you try to use dsmash x3 --> uair on DDD, the dsmash is too stale = not enough stun = uair is not guaranteed
And I'm pretty sure you can also dsmash chain DDD at low percents because he's the fastest faller in the game XD

 

[NickRiddle]

Fresh moves are good. Plus, it forced DDD to approach.

 

[Dakpo]

why does down smashing waddle force him to?

 

[infiniteV115]

Because if you keep dsmashing it then the waddle is stuck there forever, and if you do it to 2 of them he can't pull out any more = he can't camp, so assuming you have the lead, DDD has to approach.

 

[Tesh]

When you stun waddles, he can't throw more of them.

 

[Dakpo]

lol A funny Idea, I didn't think they were that big of a deal

 

[Zanx8]

Well, I might as well start doing that so I can go refresh everything...

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I wish i saved my replays.

If anyone feels like critiquing, http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/23833348
I go on at 1:56:00.


In the video to the right that's 130 minutes.

 

[infiniteV115]

Wtf..
I wrote a rather long detailed critique but when I clicked Submit it didn't go through because I was apparently not logged in.

To give you the gist of it, improve your DI and SDI. Idk how much you play, but you don't seem completely familiar with the spacing and timing on ZSS' moves so I suggest that you play more. You have a habit of frolling OoS, especially when you whiff an attack/hit the opponent's shield, and you tend to dtilt out of your frolls. And lastly, try to focus more on analyzing your opponent's habits and decisions in certain situations, rather than simply waiting for an opening to attack.

Edit: Oh...stop catching items with L/R cause you keep airdodging, use Z instead.
If you're using Z and still airdodging then you're pressing Z for too long, just tap it.
And don't get hit by Snake fairs

 

[BioDG]

You guys should use the proper threads lol (myself included).

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Haha. I jumped and tried to Uair, but i guess it didn't come out. I was having alot of technical errors as you could see (LOL at OoS UpB out of shield). I was really hot and uncomfortable. Those are not by far my best videos as i was mad stressed out and had alot of errors. I appreciate the critiques. I do have a bad Froll habit. I'm pretty sure at the start of match one i even hit grab for some reason.

I was getting so angry. None of my OoS options were working and i was misinputting left and right. I think it was lack of food. Either way. I'll try to get my other replays up.

 

[Zanx8]

I wish I had some way to record matches of me that aren't in terrible quality :I I'm going to be working on doubles a lot more only because sometimes singles frustrates me.

 

[PEACE7]

There is a thread on here where you can get your clips recorded.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=233863

 

[Zanx8]

Thank you Peace! You're a live saver. xD

 

[PEACE7]

Lolol no problem man

 

[Zanx8]

So, SOMEONE HELP ME WITH THE MARTH MU!!!!!! I CANNOT PLAY IT TO SAVE MY LIFE!
Edit: I checked the MU thread oops xD

 

[Coolwhip]

Wassup y'all. I'm here to learn & pickup zss. Can't stop thinking about using the damn character tbh. lol
watching videos & reading guides has been a help so far, so you guys will be seeing me around here.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Welcome, friend.

 

[Coolwhip]

Thanks, mink.

I wanna start learning the basic strategy before going advanced. one step at a time.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Up air is good.

 

[infiniteV115]

The guide is good. Read that.
Then read this, it corrects some mistakes in the guide.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=305323
#1 and #4 are the only important ones, imo.

Edit: If you have any questions, feel free to ask, preferably in the Q&A thread/MU thread.

 

[Zanx8]

^ Up air is good. Welcome to the world of using Zero Suit Samus. It's definitely something worth getting into. So have fun with her.
Edit: Ninja'd, well I meant @ Mink. xD

 

[Exceladon City]

Sup Barbie Girls.

I'll be lurking around here. I'm picking up Zoot Suit and I figured it would be a good idea to get comfy with the community.

Sup Mink.

 

[Zanx8]

Oh, I guess people are starting picking up Zero Suit then....

 

[Exceladon City]

Oh, I guess people are starting picking up Zero Suit then....

I got stoned one day and watched the IMPULSE stream. I guess you could say I'm maining her on impulse. *ba-dum tch*

But seriously, I had a nagging urge to play her and after spending like 2 hours in training mode, things felt pretty smooth.

/Vmeatride

 

[Coolwhip]

Oh, I guess people are starting picking up Zero Suit then....

You should thank salem for that, cuz he took that character to a whole new level. hehe

@ Mink: I'm already aware of zamus's kill moves, u-air being one of them.
I just like her speed, range and killing ability she has.

 

[ぱみゅ]

Excel, you have Wallace ****ing Wells everywhere in your posts.
I like that.
No homo.

Actually, I don't think there is no way to like Wallace and be no-homo... but w/e