ZSS General Discussion

[LoliLovesRain]

your head still looks tiny tho =/

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

YOU are tiny.

Loli.

 

[LoliLovesRain]

my head is tiny? O_O WAHT?!?! i have a HUGE head it takes up the whole camera

 

[solecalibur]

So other then will smith taking YBM's spot on the left who is who from left to right

 

[LoliLovesRain]

Will smith, Nick Riddle and then SNAKEEE xD im behind the films but i didnt take the picture :D

 

[Sovereign]

Only 3 ZSS mains? I'll be in the next picture, then.

MLG Columbus, a ZSS main is takin' 1st. Y.b.M, sorry bro, but I got this.

 

[#HBC | J]

Okay so i've got a tournament this weekend and I am gonna try and go all ZSS. (Well not for Falco or Diddy because i am not confident in those two yet.)

Any advice?

 

[Y.b.M.]

Only 3 ZSS mains? I'll be in the next picture, then.

MLG Columbus, a ZSS main is takin' 1st. Y.b.M, sorry bro, but I got this.

If you mean a ZSS main is going to be the FIRST one to take LAST....then your name is written all over that.... I'm coming for that number 1 spot...nothing above it...

 

[Snakeee]

soooo after the tourney I decided to just try reverting to the old gimmicks Nick's been abusing and I was ****** everyone. I guess 95% of people still cannot exploit it well enough. Expect me to place in the money at Columbus, maybe top 3. This is what I feel I learned from Riddle, "it's not about how good you are, it's about how bad everyone else is"

 

[risemix]

ignore post

 

[Nefarious B]

Start of a ZSS pic spree? ohhh snap i think yes

 

[NickRiddle]

Fine, fine, I'll play nice.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Nick I suggest playing Shadow once or twice before commenting in that way. Snakeee is correct in that Shadow punishes half or more of his dsmash/side-bs ON REACTION and not just because they are badly placed. Your playstyle works because PLAYERS (not just your region, no one says that) haven't caught onto it. Frank's fault for not taking full advantage though.

I do agree that his assertion that the moves are "useless" is a little premature, because no one is perfect all the time. It IS a gamble though if the player knows how to exploit said weakness. Do the math, frame data doesn't lie, these moves are easy to PS and easily punished when they are.

 

[NickRiddle]

Nick I suggest playing Shadow once or twice before commenting in that way. Snakeee is correct in that Shadow punishes half or more of his dsmash/side-bs ON REACTION and not just because they are badly placed. Your playstyle works because PLAYERS (not just your region, no one says that) haven't caught onto it. Frank's fault for not taking full advantage though.

I do agree that his assertion that the moves are "useless" is a little premature, because no one is perfect all the time. It IS a gamble though if the player knows how to exploit said weakness. Do the math, frame data doesn't lie, these moves are easy to PS and easily punished when they are.

D-smash having the ability to be charged makes it harder to be PSed.
I wanna play Shadow really badly. I would have, but I wanted to do it in a MM and I was weary of MLG's "NO MM" policy.
If he goes to Columbus, I will MM him there.

 

[wWw Dazwa]

I wanna play Shadow really badly. I would have, but I wanted to do it in a MM and I was weary of MLG's "NO MM" policy.

they didn't say anything about M&M matches

 

[NickRiddle]

they didn't say anything about M&M matches

Go to an MLG event!
I wanna see your ZSS now.

 

[wWw Dazwa]

When I beat Ally this Saturday, I'll arrange my travel plans for Columbus

 

[NickRiddle]

When I beat Ally this Saturday, I'll arrange my travel plans for Columbus

Get to it.
^^

 

[Nefarious B]

As of when I played him (October lawl) he didn't know the matchup at all... You got this

 

[LoliLovesRain]

r u ALL going to MLG???? O_O time to invest in an awesome camera.....expect pictures taken of u ALL annnd...today is my bday :D

 

[Zero]

Happy 15th

 

[Sovereign]

If you mean a ZSS main is going to be the FIRST one to take LAST....then your name is written all over that.... I'm coming for that number 1 spot...nothing above it...

Oh my... GG, I cp your ***-whoopin' at MLG.

Happy Birthday, LLR. So many awesome April birthdays. April FTW!

 

[Snakeee]

Heh, I was half joking on that post, I think you're good but you do rely a lot on that stuff. I suppose if it works then just keep doing it though.

Hey I was thinking me, Nick, hopefully Dazwa, and another ZSS main or two that knows what they're talking about can do like a podcast (series?) about ZSS, Metagame, match ups, and just random ****. I think it'd be really fun to do, and would probably get us to actually advance ZSS' metagame. It'd also probably be pretty funny bc I expect me and Nick to throw subtle trash talk at each other here and there XD

 

[fkacyan]

Heh, I was half joking on that post, I think you're good but you do rely a lot on that stuff. I suppose if it works then just keep doing it though.

Hey I was thinking me, Nick, hopefully Dazwa, and another ZSS main or two that knows what they're talking about can do like a podcast (series?) about ZSS, Metagame, match ups, and just random ****. I think it'd be really fun to do, and would probably get us to actually advance ZSS' metagame. It'd also probably be pretty funny bc I expect me and Nick to throw subtle trash talk at each other here and there XD

I'm working on a large post about armor piece and general projectile abuse. One of the strongest things about ZSS is her armor pieces and even those who have the best piece games could be doing a lot more to abuse them, as I've found out playing against people who gain such experience using Diddy Kong. The armor pieces should be at least like 50-60% if not a stock on most people.

IN SHORT ZCATCHING AND THROWING GUYS

 

[Chronodiver Lokii]

since a bunch of you be going to mlg columbus...since im now almost entirely sure i cant go...come to NEOH to visit/play some smash afterwards? xD

Btw, happy birfday Loli!!!!~ : D

 

[VSC.D-Torr]

happy bday Loli

 

[LoliLovesRain]

thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu :D:D:D

 

[VSC.D-Torr]

Only 3 ZSS mains? I'll be in the next picture, then.

I was at MLG Orlando

it's just that the pic need GOOD ZSS mains in there

i clearly don't qualify

LOL

 

[LoliLovesRain]

i wasnt in the picture either and im clearly the best...........dtorr i took a pic of u behind snakeee sooo its all good xD

 

[VSC.D-Torr]

i wasnt in the picture either and im clearly the best...........dtorr i took a pic of u behind snakeee sooo its all good xD

oh coooooooooooooooooooooooool

 

[wWw Dazwa]

happy b-day loli!

i should crudely photoshop mspaint myself into that ybm/nick/snakeee picture

 

[Snakeee]

Oh and happy b-day Loli ^.^

 

[LoliLovesRain]

thank u snakeee and dawza ^_^ and dawza you should put me in there tooo :D im too good :-p

 

[solecalibur]

We do have a regional/national the week after one hour from c-bus

 

[Zero]

Heh, I was half joking on that post, I think you're good but you do rely a lot on that stuff. I suppose if it works then just keep doing it though.

Hey I was thinking me, Nick, hopefully Dazwa, and another ZSS main or two that knows what they're talking about can do like a podcast (series?) about ZSS, Metagame, match ups, and just random ****. I think it'd be really fun to do, and would probably get us to actually advance ZSS' metagame. It'd also probably be pretty funny bc I expect me and Nick to throw subtle trash talk at each other here and there XD

ZERO SUIT BACK ROOM

start a real one

 

[NickRiddle]

Heh, I was half joking on that post, I think you're good but you do rely a lot on that stuff. I suppose if it works then just keep doing it though.

Hey I was thinking me, Nick, hopefully Dazwa, and another ZSS main or two that knows what they're talking about can do like a podcast (series?) about ZSS, Metagame, match ups, and just random ****. I think it'd be really fun to do, and would probably get us to actually advance ZSS' metagame. It'd also probably be pretty funny bc I expect me and Nick to throw subtle trash talk at each other here and there XD

Sounds like we need Skype.
I like this idea lots.
Btw, I stole your nair > d-tilt. That is too funny.

 

[Chronodiver Lokii]

We do have a regional/national the week after one hour from c-bus

Sole speaks some true facts right here.

And Snakeee, that sounds like a spiffy idea!! :O Go Snakeee!!!!!

 

[Zero]

I feel that we should start and actually use a Back Room for our advanced discussion. There are lots of concepts that desperately need covering to help our metagame and I feel that we need a dedicated group to discuss and validate.

Projects that the BR should publish:

• Complete redoing of matchup discussions - PROPERLY (A complete what-to-do guide, on shield, on dodge, on hit, an advanced positioning guide, safe angles of recovery, etcetc).
• Complete stage discussion - progression through all legal stages, with detailed analysis of **** zones, weak zones, pitfalls, etc.
• Weekly metagame discussion

Every week or so, you could publish an audio podcast to discuss the latest developments. A thread called "Back Room Releases" should be started and posted to every time a project is complete.

Nominees to the BR:

NickRiddle
Snakeee
Dazwa
Nefarious B
ph00tbag
Thiocyanide
kaleidoRuby
rise
noradseven
solecalibur

 

[#HBC | J]

-applause-

A backroom is great ^_^

It helps with alot of things. The Lucas boards have one and it is pretty cool =P

 

[Y.b.M.]

Whoooaaa!!!

Y.b.M. Doesn't get any love....?