Xbox

[LivewiresXe]

It's like the Titanic, only it keeps backing up and hitting the iceberg again and again thinking it's an icebreaker, I swear.

 

[theeboredone]

https://twitter.com/XboxSupport1/status/345338828606812160

No offense, but if you read the convo, it's in regards to the 360 ToU. Might change for the 720 in all fairness.

 

[GreenKirby]

Microsoft is interrogating/firing whistleblowers of their RM campaign, and they're starting a wider initiative on Monday, consisting of Astroturfing (Trying to cover up all whistleblowers/negative response to the X1) and paying off media outlets to say more positive things about the X1.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Man, I'm dying to see a link to THAT article, lol.

 

[Hot_ArmS]

sony should totally hire these fired whistleblowers

 

[Xyro77]

There is literally NOTHING good about the X-Box/Microsoft E3 event/post E3 info.

Ive never seen this much negative feedback on a console in all my years of living.

 

[finalark]

If MS did one thing right this year, they made it clear which consoles are the best choice for next-gen gaming.

 

[RespawningJesus]

There is literally NOTHING good about the X-Box/Microsoft E3 event/post E3 info.

Ive never seen this much negative feedback on a console in all my years of living.

Heck, this is the first time there has been a definite "winner" this early in the generation.

 

[Xyro77]

Heck, this is the first time there has been a definite "winner" this early in the generation.

I wouldn't say a definite winner has been called yet. The last 2 systems are not even out and the masses tend to forget very easy.

 

[finalark]

I wouldn't say a definite winner has been called yet. The last 2 systems are not even out and the masses tend to forget very easy.

I think you're underestimating "the masses." Don't forget that the PS3 still carries its stigma of being "the ****up console" despite Sony getting their **** together in '09. Or how Nintendo still has the "kiddie" label on them despite the fact that SEGA slapped them onto them well over two decades ago.

EDIT: That being said, Sony did manage to make a come back later in the generation, but despite that could never move from their #3 slot.

 

[Minato]

Even with MS's screw ups on this console, I think some of you guys are overestimating the amount of people that know or even care about online checks and DRM.
The gamers on forums make up a small majority despite how vocal we can be. I wouldn't be surprised if people don't mind MS's direction, like the whole TV aspect, or are just plain old loyal to MS.

 

[theeboredone]

Um...PS3 surpassed 360 in console sales back in December/January. It took a damn long time, but they got there. Plus, when you factor that the PS3 came out one year after the 360...they sold more per year than the 360.

Edit: Went to my local Best Buy. 77 PS4 preorders. 20 Xbones. Amazon stopped taking preorders for PS4 launch date. Xbone still available. Went to two gamestops, and they are promoting PS4 over Xbone. Main reason I figure, because used game sales is something GS can still do comfortably with the PS4.

 

[finalark]

Um...PS3 surpassed 360 in console sales back in December/January. It took a damn long time, but they got there. Plus, when you factor that the PS3 came out one year after the 360...they sold more per year than the 360.

Oops. My derp. Sorry all.

Edit: Went to my local Best Buy. 77 PS4 preorders. 20 Xbones. Amazon stopped taking preorders for PS4 launch date. Xbone still available. Went to two gamestops, and they are promoting PS4 over Xbone. Main reason I figure, because used game sales is something GS can still do comfortably with the PS4.

Here's the thing, if the word about Xbone's limitations don't spread around it will be this. You'd be surprised how many retailers participate in used games. It goes well beyond game stop. Best Buy does used games, Target does used games, hell, there's a few record stores around here that do used games. If word of mouth doesn't shut down the Xbone, it will be retailers refusing to promote it.

 

[KayB]

Remember when we used to think that nothing could be worse than Sony's 2006 press conference?

 

[LivewiresXe]

Remember when we used to think that nothing could be worse than Sony's 2006 press conference?

Oh man, I tried so hard to forget about that thing.

 

[theeboredone]

I don't think Xbone's conference was that bad...it was just the console reveal a few weeks back was a colossal failure. And the fact they tried to address it a few days before E3 in the form of a press release didn't help. Xbone has some games going for it, but because they cancelled their Q&A session + not do much to detail the used game stuff...well that's just some negative points there.

 

[KayB]

No, I thought it was bad. But it could've been a lot worse considering how much **** they've gotten in the past month.

 

[Black Mantis]

 

[Teran]

I preferred the variant of that pic with the Dreamcast as the dead hero, because it was true.

 

[Tesh]

Despite claims that game costs are high because of used games/piracy. Xbone's super anti use game, anti piracy spybot still has 60$ games.

This just keeps getting dumber. They could have at least dropped back down to 50$ to make themselves seem cheaper overall (after 10 games, you will break even at the cost of ps4)

 

[RespawningJesus]

Despite claims that game costs are high because of used games/piracy. Xbone's super anti use game, anti piracy spybot still has 60$ games.

This just keeps getting dumber. They could have at least dropped back down to 50$ to make themselves seem cheaper overall (after 10 games, you will break even at the cost of ps4)

Just be glad that the price of games is still the same and not higher.

 

[finalark]

Just be glad that the price of games is still the same and not higher.

Actually, I agree with this. I was genuinely worried that games would start costing $70. Hell, IMO even $50 is rather steep. I wish that all games would be new at $40 but sadly that's a rarity. I guess it goes hand-in-hand with the ever-increasing production costs of games.

Oh well, Greatest Hits/Player's Choice monkey for life.

 

[Minato]

Oh well, Greatest Hits/Player's Choice monkey for life.

If I wasn't so bugged about the cases being different/worse, I'd do that too.

Regardless, there are times where I do wait until a sale though. I only buy launch for the games that are pretty niche.

 

[Tesh]

Just be glad that the price of games is still the same and not higher.

the price is higher this time, the product you are buying is worth less and you are giving up more than just money to obtain them

any game you buy that you wind up not liking turns out to be a huge loss as gamestop and authorized dealers will give you less than 30% of what you paid for it (maybe even less now than they need to kick more back to developers).

currently if i buy a game and hate it, i can probably sell it to someone for 75% of the full price, if you've made a game not worth holding on to, do you really deserve my money AND the next guy's money?

 

[KayB]

Strangely accurate.

 

[TigerBizNiz]

I could care less. I have zero interest for anything the Xbox One has to offer. I don't even know if I'm still getting a PS4 or not. I thought about getting a 360 a couple years back but only for Halo 3. I sticked with the PS3 and Wii instead.

 

[theeboredone]

Do it yourself and see...

 

[finalark]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but nope.

 

[theeboredone]

That's lame. I had someone else do it, and it worked lol.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I also got the same thing as finlark while searching on bing

Though I got different results for google

 

[Sedda]

Even with MS's screw ups on this console, I think some of you guys are overestimating the amount of people that know or even care about online checks and DRM.
The gamers on forums make up a small majority despite how vocal we can be. I wouldn't be surprised if people don't mind MS's direction, like the whole TV aspect, or are just plain old loyal to MS.

Well, Amazon conducted a poll on facebook, and apparently 95% of people chose the ps4 over the Xbone (the poll had something to do with which one the user preferred to pre-order I think). For whatever reason they had to take the poll down lol.

http://www.latintimes.com/articles/5349/20130618/ps4-vs-xbox-one-amazon-poll-taken.htm

19 to 1 is a pretty big deal, and this one didn't come from small forums.

 

[finalark]

I was down at Game Stop yesterday and they're offering preorders for PS4 and Xbone, not only that but they're also highly supporting CoD ghosts (surprise surprise). I wonder why GS is supporting the Xbone as much as they are.

 

[Minato]

http://kotaku.com/microsoft-is-removing-xbox-one-drm-514390310

 

[Black Mantis]

Time to get ready for Killer Instinct now.

 

[M@v]

In before Microtroll re-activates it all about a year or so after Xbone releases.

Still ain't getting a penny from me. Stay mad microsoft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfUM5xHUY4M

 

[Hot_ArmS]

yeah a little too late, I've already made my decision on the ps4. As mav says as well they can just switch their policy back after everyone already has an xbone.

 

[Falconv1.0]

I'm actually sad MS is going back on its DRM plan, I was really looking forward to watching them kill themselves.

But lol w/e PS4 still cheaper and stronger.

 

[Sedda]

This is how hard the had to squeeze gamers for them to realize how stupid their policies were. I've made up my mind too. You can't really take all of that away, say you're sorry, and expect people to buy your console over the other company's like nothing happened.

 

[theeboredone]

So...how do you feel about MS back peddaling? Respect or no?

 

[Black Mantis]

So...how do you feel about MS back peddaling? Respect or no?

I just want to play Killer Instinct. That's all I really want.