Wreck-It Bowser

[Flayl]

Bowser players haven't done enough to prove he's a better character than Lucas or Mario (I also feel he's better than those two). That's what it boils down to.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Samus rises above Bowser next tier list just because of NoID, he's that good.

The only thing that would make me mad is if they gave Jigglypuff a "potential" rise above Bowser, lol.

 

[Zigsta]

Don't worry, the Bowsers back there would never let either character rise above us, haha.

But yeah, Bowser basically didn't prove to be better or worse from last list.

 

[Cassius.]

well idk, the nearest tournament in NY is going to be...uh Vinnie's on july 30th..

even if there is soemthing before that, I won't be able to go because I'll be in NC for 2 weeks working on MvC3 8D

INB4DORMAMMU o

 

[Mr. game and watch]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=306431

link if you wan

 

[Phiddlesticks]

the only part of that post that matters is

Low tier tournaments have lost Yoshi.

 

[Cassius.]

Time to start winning. EVERYTHING. Low Tiers.

 

[Flayl]

very few tournaments host low tiers nowadays

 

[Cassius.]

it was a joke...

 

[Zigsta]

Dang Bowsers, you guys gotta get happy!

 

[Alien Vision]

I still feel bad maining Ganondorf on you guys. .-. Do you forgive me? ;o?

 

[Cassius.]

Why would we feel bad? You dropped down to the worst...your decision. lol

 

[Alien Vision]

Isn't that the point?

Thats like spending money to fix up an old car. Rather than a newer one.

In this case. I am spending my time on Ganondorf, rather than Bowser. Lol.

 

[Zigsta]

Hey man, get in where ya fit in.

 

[Alien Vision]

Besides. I am still rooting for you guys. Bowser will always be my second main.

Happy 4th of July everyone.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

4th of July ftw

 

[Dumbfire]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7QL46cK7B8
This should cheer everyone up. And Ganon's cool too.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Yoshi should've moved up more ftl.

 

[Zigsta]

Yeah, I was hoping Yoshi would go up more, too. :/

Maybe next time, as long as Yoshis keep putting in work.

 

[Uncle]

Bowser's spot is pretty much locked in. He'll always be better than the bulk of the low tier guys, but not much more than that. Why did the developers give him such impressive tools (Fortress, Klaw, Grab releases), but such ridiculous limitations? It's like they told Bowser that they're going to make him good in Brawl by giving him those shiny tools, but it turns out to be a troll, and they saddle him with limitations afterwards.

 

[Ixisnaugus]

So there are now 9 Individual tiers now? Jesus christ. Anyway, I'm not surprised Luigi dropped, but I don't agree completely agree with how much he dropped, I think he should swap places with Sonic. I think Ike should swap with Sheik as well. Sheilda needs to disappear because there is no such character.

I feel Lucas should move to the bottom of E, if only so Mario onward can be placed in a tier of their own, since they're all practically as bad as each other. I understand why H tier exists, but really it isn't necessary since G tier isn't much better, if at all. In a hypothetical tier comprised of most of G and H, Samus should probably be the top, with Bowser being next to Link maybe somewhere in the middle, and Jiggs next to Ganon at the bottom of the pile.

 

[Player-1]

Luigi is secretly the best character in the game, trust me. He just purposely sandbags so he doesn't get banned, but he's going to stop sandbagging and the biggest tournament in brawl history, but IDK which one that will be yet so I can't foil his plans.

 

[B!squick]

boss plays Luigi. Enough said.

EDIT: You know, I just remembered, this is the first tier list where Bowser didn't drop.

.... So, I guess, hurray for finally not taking a step backwards?

 

[MrEh]

You can get third party versions of that though.

I know, I own two.

But I just want a Nintendo one for the sake of having it.

 

[Zigsta]

Finally saw Green Lantern. It definitely has its flaws, but it's not worthy of 20% on Rotten Tomatoes.

6/10

 

[Player-1]

The latest Transformers movie is pretty legit.

 

[Zigsta]

I think the latest Transformers movie is the biggest piece of trash I've seen all year.

 

[Player-1]

what's your reasoning?

 

[Ixisnaugus]

Funny I just watched the latest Transformers film in 3D at a cinema with some friends. I thought the film itself wasn't terrible, OK even, though I'm a complete novice in the topic of movies and far from the best film critic around. I found myself paying more attention to the 3D effects in all honesty. A lot of people down talk 3D for not being the most amazing thing since electricity and, while I'm not ready to join the camp that have fallen in love with it (however small it may be), I can say it at least added to the experience, if only a bit. I'm sure other films make better use of 3D but I don't know.

I have a new found respect for Sony and Nintendo for pushing 3D gaming though, I think it has more potential in that field. During the film I couldn't help but wonder what it would be like playing certain games in 3D, or wondering how games could make clever use of it. Hopefully such games are realized in the future, the 3D effect used in Pilotwings for the 3DS gets a lot of praise, so I'm certain the potential is there. I can't wait to see what Super Mario for the 3DS will do with it, and I hope Tri-Ace's Beyond the Labyrinth makes good use of it to, so much potential it could have when combined with such a gorgeous art direction and mysterious setting.

 

[B!squick]

Finally saw Green Lantern. It definitely has its flaws, but it's not worthy of 20% on Rotten Tomatoes.

6/10

Thank you, Zig. *hug* No homo.

 

[Flayl]

As the BBR has Bowser's matchups we apparently play the 4th worst character in the game. Now I don't know about the BBR, but there are like 8 matchups I disagree with on the chart.

What's your opinion guys? Which matchups do you feel should be looked into?

 

[Uncle]

Here's how I would change Bowser's MU chart.

Bowser/Samus to -2
Bowser/Kirby to -1
Bowser/Peach to -1
Bowser/Wario to -2
Bowser/Fox to -1
Bowser/Lucario to -1
Bowser/Luigi to -1

Basically, those are the MUs that are most worthy of looking into, imo.

I may have quit Bowser (as a secondary/tertiary, technically I was never deserving of main status), but I still care about how he's viewed competitively. I just won't be a hawk pushing for board activity anymore, because that would be hypocritical.

 

[Ixisnaugus]

Well personally I think all matchups need to be re-reviewed for accuracy, I believe the chart is incorrect and very deceptive, and that character MU's in general are far more unbalanced than is made out. Speaking of Bowser specifically though, well, I may as well just say I disagree with every single ratio right there, because I do. With the exception of maybe one or two.

I don't necessarily believe we play the 4th worst character in the game, though. By, what I can only describe as the interference of some benevolent deity, there are in fact other characters that are worse than Bowser.

 

[Cassius.]

**** i forgot what the chart looks like for bowser..

but we definitely do not play the 4th worst character in the game.

what happened to zelda/ganondorf/link/captain falcon/jigglypuff/whoever else im forgetting because they suck ?

that's more than 4...i hope.

 

[Player-1]

you forgot fox, he is the worst char in the game

 

[Vex Kasrani]

I think jigs can be better then bowser, then again, I think jigs is top of low tier.

 

[Zigsta]

Here's how I would change Bowser's MU chart.

Bowser/Samus to -2
Bowser/Kirby to -1
Bowser/Peach to -1
Bowser/Wario to -2
Bowser/Fox to -1
Bowser/Lucario to -1
Bowser/Luigi to -1

Basically, those are the MUs that are most worthy of looking into, imo.

I may have quit Bowser (as a secondary/tertiary, technically I was never deserving of main status), but I still care about how he's viewed competitively. I just won't be a hawk pushing for board activity anymore, because that would be hypocritical.

I actually think Kirby is 50-50. Wario is -3, though.

We will be working on the next MU chart soon in the BBR.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

I think jigs can be better then bowser, then again, I think jigs is top of low tier.

Yeah, except sings only useful in 1 situation.

 

[B!squick]

EDIT: Missed a page.

 

[_Dice]

I actually think Kirby is 50-50. Wario is -3, though.

We will be working on the next MU chart soon in the BBR.

is wario -3 only because none of the bowsers can implement our standing chain regrab consistantly while warios can implement the chaingrab more consistantly? because i mean it's fully possible to adjust to a players speed and get the match off 3 grabs however difficult it may be. I'm spending about 60-80% of my bowser practice on grab release combos and grab release to regrab specifically to take advanatage of the aspect of bower that very few of us do to it's fullest.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Practice that for laber, zig.
He's confident he has you.