Wreck-It Bowser

[B!squick]

You... just once... one ****ing time I'd like to play a team game, ANY team game, and not wonder why I get the teammates who seem to spend all their free time huffing paint. Doesn't seem to matter what game I play. World of Tanks. DotA 2. Awesomenauts. Pictionary. Just ******** people everywhere I look and only ever on my team.

 

[Deleted member 189823]

Seriously how am I supposed to kill Snake without it being klaw at 200

 

[Flayl]

BAir, DTilt, FSmash'ing while dodging Snake's FTilt for style points

 

[Deleted member 189823]

Thanks Flay.

Guys I'm going to be practicing Falco for a few days, don't miss me!!!!

 

[Kasper!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu3nx69odgo&feature=youtu.be

Ixis (UK Bowser telling us his version of how the avalon holland tourney was)

 

[B!squick]

Just had one of my messages on GFAQs moderated. This is the only other forum I ever visit (sometimes), so I guess I'll post about the injustice here.

You posted...

SinIce posted...

terrysmay04 posted...
This is the kind of stupid money grab that makes me sad to be an american. Every one who takes part in this should be ashamed.

no kidding...these guy are just as bad as the 12 year olds crying about freezes

Yeah, like those cancer patients. All depressed and **** just because they have a terminal illness.

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The moderation was upheld. Woo.

 

[Goast]

So yeah I've been away for a bit but It looks like I'm back. << wut I miss? (goes forum diving)

 

[B!squick]

Who're you? O.o

 

[Z'zgashi]

He's Goast.

 

[B!squick]

Just saw the newest... newcomer to the next smash game. Not only do we get yet another SMB character, but we get one that could easily be an alt costume for Peach (think there's even a mod for that). Also it isn't Geno.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx8zMBQaZjQ

 

[Rizen]

^I think Geno is owned by Rare and they were bought by Microsoft.

 

[Z'zgashi]

They should put Birdo in the game.

 

[B!squick]

^I think Geno is owned by Rare and they were bought by Microsoft.

Wait, Rare? Didn't Squeenix make SMRPG?

Not sure if the Birdo comment is serious or not. :S

 

[Rizen]

Wait, Rare? Didn't Squeenix make SMRPG?

You're right. I was confusing Geno with Kremlins (I think). Either way Nintendo doesn't own him.

 

[N~W .]

Hi all.

I've just started playing Brawl competitively since mid 2013. In tournament sets, I use Bowser, Wolf, King D3 and I'm currently trying to get to grips with using Marth.

It's nice to meet all of you and I hope that I can learn some new things about the character and such.

 

[Phiddlesticks]

i noticed there hasnt been a post in 2014 yet on the bowser boards so im here to say hello, what have i missed, and how is everyone

 

[B!squick]

Hi, nothing as far as I can tell, even though I should give these new guide topics a look-see, and I'm doing pretty good. Yourself?

 

[Deleted member 189823]

I never gave up on Bowser, by the way.
I actually did pretty great, last time I used him in tournament...was the only set I used him in, though. lol

 

[Rizen]

^Good stuff Your signature's cute, lol.

 

[Deleted member 189823]

Yeah, I've always loved the big guy. I even put him as my Cover Photo for FB, once. It was there, for a while.

I am going to the U.S this year, towards the end of July. Since I'm stopping at Miami, I'll very likely be able to meet the guys over there. But I also really want to go over to the Tristate region and take on more big names. Depends if I'll be able to afford it.

EDIT: Thank you. They are very good.

 

[Sunnysunny]

You... just once... one ****ing time I'd like to play a team game, ANY team game, and not wonder why I get the teammates who seem to spend all their free time huffing paint. Doesn't seem to matter what game I play. World of Tanks. DotA 2. Awesomenauts. Pictionary. Just ******** people everywhere I look and only ever on my team.

This is why I can't play team games. Having to rely on the cooperation of others is stressful. I feel like in most team games my own team is fighting each other instead of the opponents.

EDIT: Oh god, just realized how old that post was.
My bad.

Seems like every the majority of the boards are dormant now, all waiting silently for smash 4.

 

[Z'zgashi]

I dont mind team games since I literally give no ****s about Wins/Ranks/Ratings or whatever and Im good at zoning out anything/anyone I dont care to bother listening to. Only time I ever REALLY want to win are Tournaments honestly, and even then I dont get stressed out over it, I just take it one match at a time, and while sometimes I get frustrated at myself for losing close games or something, its only temporary and rarely lasts longer than 10 or so mins before I get over it.

 

[Sunnysunny]

I dont mind team games since I literally give no ****s about Wins/Ranks/Ratings or whatever and Im good at zoning out anything/anyone I dont care to bother listening to. Only time I ever REALLY want to win are Tournaments honestly, and even then I dont get stressed out over it, I just take it one match at a time, and while sometimes I get frustrated at myself for losing close games or something, its only temporary and rarely lasts longer than 10 or so mins before I get over it.

Oops I ain't like that sadly. .-.
I wish I was like that honestly. But I really only relax if i'm having fun with my friends in team games. Like, for example, in brawl I always enter with my best buddy in teams, and we always end up doing double Zelda. Neither of us play zelda. :V

Guess it's just gotta be people I like, otherwise i'll just be shooting for the win.

 

[Cassius.]

a couple of notes for anyone that cares:

tried Bowser at the sm4sh demo, the mechanics seem to help and hurt Bowser at the same time.

His up-B OoS is still around, which most likely means that it's still good
Bowser's Klaw is a bit more "under-handed" now. what I mean by this, is that he seems to grab from below more and even in the air. I'm unsure of its range though, and Klaw Hopping seems to be removed...at least, it's not in this build.
His firebreath looks a bit odd, and his down-b is ridiculous as you probably saw in the invitational

the only colors that returned so far are Bowser's original costume, and the black shell with red hair. there are two new costumes: there's one that resembles his red-team color, although it looks pretty different too, and there's one where his skin is green (it's not the blue shell palette, I've no idea what the **** it is honestly lol)

his jab is still good, but his ftilt looks a bit more animated and seems to be slightly shorter, but pulls out and back faster. bowser in general is more animated this time around. His air mobility is still solid, but I personally think that everyone in this game looks stupid when they jump now due to the "side-profiles being the same in both directions" thing sakurai revealed a few weeks ago.

his upb in the air recovers faster from lag as well. His speed is an obvious improvement, but his aerials have seemed to change quite a bit too on how they hit. the only ones that remain true more or less are U, F, and DAir and even those have been tweaked. His backair is a kick with both of his legs, as you all probably know.

I was unable to test whether grab releases are still a thing or not, but given how sm4sh seems to operate, I really feel like I can't judge Bowser yet. parts of the game still look and seem awkward.

mechanics wise, smash 4 seems to be fluid like Brawl, with hitstun being in between Brawl and Melee. It seems like the more damage you have, the less freedom you have over (s)di and things like that.

fast falling is ridiculously fast in this game

and a reminder that obviously this isn't the final build of the game. the character select screen only had characters up to greninja's reveal, and i'm sure he'll probably be changing a few other things

 

[MrEh]

Bowser's Klaw is a bit more "under-handed" now. what I mean by this, is that he seems to grab from below more and even in the air.

That's ridiculous considering how Klaw already grabbed people miles below him. LOL

 

[Z'zgashi]

Well if you look at the animation for it now, he legit scoops people up. Its like his fair animation but instead of his claw coming from the top and going down, it starts from the bottom and goes up.

 

[Cassius.]

Yeah. I forgot to add that uair seems to have more range. I didn't get the chance to test utilt but one dude in the smash 4 bowser boards posted notes on some of the moves i couldn't check out.

Up b also seems to have more vertical recovery. I don't know if it's just me, but it seems like his shell is smaller. Upb oos looks "smaller" and so does dair due to the shell. DAir is like some divebomb type attack though, or maybe that was due to how insane fastfalling is now

I have NO idea how NAir is going to be.


In terms of characters, the build itself only had up to greninja's reveal, so some were missing.

A lot of brawl's general mechanics have been changed or removed, and air dodging has a bigger penalty in this game. Its a biiiiig difference. Like it'll be even more of a comittment to the option if you do it.

The guy also mentioned that bowser's spotdodge in the build was good, so that could be a huge improvement if so.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Bowser's new nair is awesome, it has amazing coverage all around him including a nice hitbox below him, and it has a very Marth fair like knockback which is really good for setting up juggles. Definitely more useful than old nair. How good exactly though is hard to tell, but its fast and if it hits it puts them in the perfect position for you to read an air dodge or landing and punish.

 

[CourageHound]

For anyone interested who doesn't visit the smash4 Bowser forums, i have a vid of myself using King Koopa in the demo.

Best Buy Smashfest - Demo Match: http://youtu.be/SIBkv44xe1Y

Classic controller is pretty wack so i had try and get used to the controls on the fly...which didn't work out so well lol. Anyway there were specific things i was trying to do like klaw hop(not possible it seems), up b OoS(which I accomplished), ground movement and aerials. I didn't explore the latter two nearly as much as i would've liked however.