do you want to see how dragonite is a symbol? heres some ways: the dragon symbol (this is a fact, whenever you see a pokemon representing dragons, it is dragonite. on top of that, dragonite and its pre-evo's were the only dragons in the first game),
Ridey is enough Dragon for brawl. If they need a poke-dragon, Charizard would be my choice.
ridley isnt a powerful pokemon. charizard isnt a dragon.
a powerful pokemon symbol (it was the first pokemon to have the biggest attack in the game),
Gee, I guess Salmance, with a higher HP, attack, speed, and Special attack makes a better poke then.
salamence is a rip off of dragonite. dragonite was the FIRST pokemon to have the highest attack. besides that, dragonite is more important and suitable.
a boss symbol (the D thread proves that),
He's the favored poke of 1 trainer that isn't even the last one you face, that hasn't been seen in 2 generations.
he is an important boss in 2/3's of the gens (D/P isnt global yet) and a boss in alot of other games. it was the last shadow pokemon able to be captured in XD.
a popular to fans symbol (it was on the top 20 list of pokemon poll. every pokemon fan likes dragonite and it is a favourite pokemon to many).
Top 20. So if 20 pokemon get in, you can expect Dragonite. But for some reason, I don't think that's going to happen.
[/QUOTE]if 20 pokemon became characters, dragonite would be one of them. besides, i was just using that to prove the point that it is popular.
FiErCe_oNi... just to make it clear to you:
1) We already have enough 1st generation Pokémon. I honestly doubt or atleast HOPE that they don't replace Mewtwo and Jigglypuff, since both characters are still populair and don't deserve to go. Pichu will likely get replaced, but not by a 1st generation Pokémon, rather by a 3rd or 4th gen one.
why are generations so important that they judge a characters chances? they dont. popularity and importance does.
2) You complain about that Pokémon are getting more and more ugly after every generation... Well first of all, Dragonite aint a beauty either. Neither is Exegutor, or what about Omastar, Tangela or Clefable? I mean, they're monsters... They are supposed to be ugly right? <_<; Now in all seriousness, I don't think the 3rd generation was THAT bad... I mean, we got Rayqauza, Salamence, Groudon and some other good looking ones... Sure there always are Luvdiscs and Beautyflies around, but don't complain about them because Dragonite is ugly as **** to... Especially comparing to the more dragon-like 3rd gen Salamence.
im not complaing on looks. im complaining about design. the older pokemon have much more unique designs. dragonite is a dragon with electricity inducing antennae and expandable wings. exegutor is a tree with lots of coconut heads. omastar is a prehistoric snail/octopuss. tangela is... covered in vines. salamence doesnt have a unique design. its a rip off of dragonite. its auctually labelled as the hoenn equivilent to dragonite.
3) And even IF Dragonite was considered, he'd had to rival Ridley... Since they're pretty alike -not clones mind you but let's keep it at similair. And he'd never win that populairty contest.
it wouldnt have to rival ridley. i posted ways Dragonite is different from ridley a few posts back. dragonite can use unique pokemon moves. ridley cant.
No, what you know and think are two different things that you need to distinguish between. what you know can mainly be related to facts, unless of course your an idiot who belives everything he/she hears. what you think can be anything. fact or fiction. having a wtf pokemon would be great, because a gret wtf character would be dragonite. but sadly, your reasons are misguided. dragonite isnt a symbol: charizard is a dragon, and if it isnt then that is a horrible mistake on the part of the creators. Snorlax, Aeordactyl, and Gyrados learn hyper beam, the move that i think your talking about. i'd rather have snorlax in the game than dragonite, because it's more of a symbol than dragoinite. remeber that although they are making this for fans of the game (SSB not POKEMON) that they also want more consumers to buy that havent played before. in truth, snorlax would be better as a playable character, than just in a pokeball. ( but again, like many of the guesses here everyone has made, highly unlikely). a boss symbol? that's just whack. it's a boss, but that's really not important. everyone overcame the challenge. so what. and although it was ppular to fans, what about the other guy. I'm sure there are alot of fans of SSB who hate pokemon. the business needs to cater to them as well. dont say that you dont want dragointe because it isnt your favorite pokemon. that's the reason why many have come to this post. im mean hell, you made a friggin shrine.(creepy)
what you think is what you know... now stop trying to act smart, because you arent. charizard isnt even a dragon. do you see "dragon" in its typing? sure, it looks like one, but it isnt. *starts trying to translate your next part*... so now you're trying to compare it? bah, just look at its score on the polls.. its beating them... boss's are important. look at bowser, ganondorf. they started off as bosses that you overcame, and now they are important characters. they dont need to cater for the pokemon haters because everyone knows they are idiots and they shouldnt listen to their opinion. Dragonite should be in because it would be a great character for everyone. i made a support shrine then. you got a problem? why dont you start hastling Kaid now because of his lucario thread?
again and again and again i have to repeat it. This game isnt just for the fans of SSB. In order to have the highest amount of sales, and for replay value, they have to make it to custom not only the fans, but anyone who seems slightly interested to come and and play. you cant go and just put in any pokemon, but rather pokemon that are always there, and will be here later in the series. Snorlax is still in the later series, and Blazeken/Combusken are both up and comers. It's either they put in a regualr in the the show/any media , or a pokemon that had a big part in movies. we, the smash fans of america, arent the only ones playing.
blaziken/combusken arent always going to be there because they are starters... starters are limited to 1 generation, then they never appear in other games (unless it requires picking a starter, like mystery dungeon). Dragonite has appeard in every gen except 1, and it probably will keep appearing in future gens. like i said before, does anyone care abotu what poke haters thing? take out mewtwo and jiggly?
What's wrong with you. Everyone has to agree? Heck no. New pokemon arent looking worse and worse. Your vision of pokemon is gtting worse and worse. You want games that have the same old crap over and over again. Better stats and better looking are your views, so dont hypocrisize yourself by making it seem like that is true. all because a pokemon gets newer moves, or that it's stats get raised doesnt make it better than all the rest guess. maybe the stats are raised so that the older ones can keep up. it's like giving viagra to a senior. you take that away, and guess who greatly surpasses who.
they have worse designs. they are less unique. they are increasing the number of rip offs. the new evolutions look pathetic. face it, 1st gen is the best gen. it isnt some sort of old car that cant keep up. why do you think they made a remake of it?
obviously you dont. again, in order to balance the game they have to raise their stats. it's only fair. the were design as more of a stone age like race. newer pokemon are getting much more advanced, and frankly i think some look much better.
i dont think i care about what you think now. 1st gen stone age design? newer gens more avanced design? you like the newer designs better? o yeah, Dainoosu (nosepass evo), Dosaidon (Rhydon evo) and buuburn (magmar evo) have better more (advanced) designs eh?
No, you fail to understand comparisons. They dont have to be the same, or revelant. they just have to be able to prove a point ( which is impossible for you, due to you lack of knowledge). I said that no new pokemon into the game of SSB ( not new to the pokemon franchise). Look at this whole post, actually the first few ones. All new. All have a hhigher possiblity of going in.
oh, im sorry but i cant tell when you are making points, because you mostly make points out of irrevilence like global warming and companys i've never heard of... can you please stop trying to act smart? its annoying. now what does this next part say? bah, im not going to bother...
This arguement is pointless because of what your arguing for. I never said i didnt want dragonite in the game/ nor did i said it wasnt a favorite of mine. I'm stating the possiblity of many of the R/B series pokemon getting into SSB is low. No ones throwing the towl( w/e the hell that is). yes, any 1st gen would be a WTF character. not everyone would know it. What about the others, the children, the people who dont even like pokemon. Everyone wont know it (thing your think). Many people would know it(thing I know). A new pokemon is going to be able to be for everyone. Old pokemon, although cool and what brought us up as kids, are going to be wtf characters if they get in. I was stunned by mewtwo in SSBM, not pichu. again, dont say stuff that cant partain to everyone, not just teens, or fans.
you havnt stated any good reason why the first gen pokemon have lowered chances. everyone that ahs played pokemon knows the first gen. where do you get the idea that people play 3rd gen and then stop playing? the children that dont like pokemon? you mean they 5 year olds that think they're gangstas? newer pokemon are known much less than older pokemon because older pokemon ahve been around longer and were available when it had its beggest fanbase. are you too much of an idiot to understand that? i cant even point out something obvious without you coming up with a nonsense theory...
ok, come on. stop acting dumb. IT HAS THE WORD PET IN IT. obviously it has something to do with domesticated animals (P..E..T..S). run a dang google search.
na i dont think i will... you should provide info, being the guy im arguing with, you should at least tell me what you're talking about. on the other hand, i dont care and this is irrevilent and pointless. now stop trying to act smart by using irrevilence.
yea it is. what type of weed to they have in Austrailia man. HELLO. you cnat just go and expect everything you see on tv, or on your gameboy. grow a reality gland man.
oh no! i have a false sense of reality because i play video games! ever heard about facts of fiction or something like that? idiot...
yea, that is the only factors. Some kids cant vote, and they have to make a decision also on movie sales, game sales, and reviews for games. it doesnt make sense because of the lack of brain capacity, and lack of actual british school teachings in Aussieland.
noone watches the movies (i cant find them at video stores, they arent at the cinemas), the oldest gens remain with the best game sales and have the best reviews. stop trying to hide the fact that you are an idiot that doesnt make sense.
pokemon arent real, thus pokedex isnt real either. so try and make sense of stuff, i know it's a strain for you, but someday you'll be in me grade group and you'll understand.
what? pokemon are real! can you PLEASE stop trying to act smart? you are an idiot. face it. i know pokemon and anything pokemon related isnt real (except products). did i say i did? im talking about the facts in the fiction.
o yea, and salamence is a much better choice. we are lacking in strong characters, but hey guess what, maybe we dont need them to be pokemon, and theere are much better choices. Snorlax is waaayyyyy better in popularity, and i don care what polls say. i want poliwrath thought
the majority of pokemon are small, cute and weak. the only striong pokemon isnt physical. there arent better choices than dragonite. why would snorlax be better? it isnt more unique. besides, it isnt even suitable for a character. it sleeps constantly. if you dont care about what the poll says, i dont care about what you think. if you want poliwrath, good for you. noone cares. it isnt popular/important.
awww... everyone posts when im asleep... oh well...
