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Which Pokemon should be in Brawl?

Which Pokemon should make the roster?

  • Lucario

    Votes: 255 26.3%
  • Blaziken

    Votes: 264 27.2%
  • Deoxys

    Votes: 191 19.7%
  • Meowth

    Votes: 163 16.8%
  • Heracross

    Votes: 64 6.6%
  • Dragonite

    Votes: 112 11.5%
  • Poliwhirl

    Votes: 38 3.9%
  • Sandslash

    Votes: 106 10.9%
  • Paras

    Votes: 41 4.2%
  • Swampert

    Votes: 37 3.8%
  • Buoysel

    Votes: 19 2.0%
  • Bulbasaur & evolutions

    Votes: 52 5.4%
  • Munchlax

    Votes: 45 4.6%
  • Lugia

    Votes: 47 4.8%
  • Charizard

    Votes: 116 11.9%
  • Sceptile

    Votes: 63 6.5%
  • Scyther

    Votes: 189 19.5%
  • Sneasel/Weavel

    Votes: 57 5.9%
  • Kadabra

    Votes: 58 6.0%
  • Gengar

    Votes: 111 11.4%
  • Pichu Bros. / Plusle & Minun

    Votes: 108 11.1%
  • Hitmonlee / Hitmonchan

    Votes: 207 21.3%
  • Eevee & evolutions

    Votes: 100 10.3%
  • Grimer

    Votes: 40 4.1%
  • Missingno

    Votes: 95 9.8%
  • Cubone

    Votes: 120 12.4%

  • Total voters
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spybloom

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Anyone who's voted for Paras or Grimer has no sense. Grimer can barely jump. Could you imagine how it could have a recovery move, for instace? And Paras can only climb, not jump. Could anyone see a Paras with a Parasol? COME ON! Think before you vote, people.
BTW, I voted for Blazieken, Lucario, Deoxys, and Cubone, although it should be MAROWACK. I like Scyther, but he should be a Scissor (Whatever it's called...:ohwell: )
I'm still wondering how Lugia would work for SSBB. It's a flying type (Yes Scyther is too, but in-game can't learn Fly), so it could just have it's number of jumps limited (Like Kirby/Puff), but I don't know how it'd work on the ground. Birds (no matter how big) just don't seem like good fighters to me @_@

--sorry if this was already discussed in the topic already.
 

Black/Light

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F/O- B/L, P&M arent nearly as unique as... just about every other pokemon that isnt a form of an existing pokemon character.
Did you even read my quoted past arguement post (guess not if you would say that)? Anyway, had you known my reason for posting that, I was showing Kaid how "P&M are different to the Pichu Brothers".

Edit- Oh, forgot to say, I was saying how they are the most unique PIKA RIPS and are the prime example of how unique a Pika Rip character can be.
 

urban_shinobi

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P/M would be great, much better than the pichu brothers, because of the helping hand ( which should be a move)
 

FiErCe_oNi

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im talking about dragonite here idiot. of course I realize what i'm saying, im a grade ahead of everyone my age. (PS. realize with a z) frankly, all the arguement here are started on opinions, so that just makes your whole statement dumb. and yes, weak as in diluted, partianing to your brain, like with this statment:
yeah, and i wasnt talking about dragonite. you cant force me into a side of an argument you twit... do i look like a care about your grade in school? what argument is stated on opinions? there it is again... proofless theorys... i guess the stuff you say does dilute my patience...
ummm, yea . hello. pokemon is a made up universe, and the closet thing to fact would be battle infor you got yourself. i'm not saying that they arent factual about pokeon, but it's made up, so the while thing is fiction. something you still probably dotn realize.
you are so tiring to argue with... you just said that the pokedex and anime are factual about pokemon, so you just admitted that your argument fails. then your trying to force stuff into my head with your idiocy...
umm yea. your whole dragon moveset is based on moves already in the game.
you never provided an example, even when i asked for one before.
trying to change the fact that ur stupid by saying my arguements are pointless is kinda idiotic. i mean come on, it's pokemon. it was pointless to begin with.
what? where do i start... even though you regularly give up on arguments, im stupid for pointing out that the ones you start have no real points even though they are clearly only aimed at me instead of factual information? if this argument was pointless to begin with, why did you start it in the first place?
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the fact still remains that there are many pokemon who just arent going to be in. although i like them, I know syther wont get in, and thatdragonite wont get in, and many others that we all like from generation one. this game had to skip alot of pokemon, so they have a big choice. On thing that I know is thatthey are most likely to put in the most recent (i dont think much from gen 4) from gen 3 in there. gen 2 got only 1 character put in the game(playable), and he sucked.
I seriously think they are going to put in 1 new character from each gen.
you are an idiot, so your opinion is just about useless... if you want to stick to proofless theorys and start more of them at the same time, go ahead. just remember that it is annoying...
fierce oni. is all u do come onto this thread and try to prove EVRYWUNS opinions and statements rong?
no... i dont see a problem with it though. ignorance misleads people.
it seems like u realy dont hav anythign to do
what does that even have to do with anything? even though its holidays where i am, i go out regularly so dont worry about that.
and why dont they replace scyther with scizor. he seems to hav alot more potential than scyther.
because people think that scyther looks cooler. i think scizor is more suitable to, but scyther is still more popular.
Did you even read my quoted past arguement post (guess not if you would say that)? Anyway, had you known my reason for posting that, I was showing Kaid how "P&M are different to the Pichu Brothers".
did you even realise that i didnt quote any arguments in my post?
Edit- Oh, forgot to say, I was saying how they are the most unique PIKA RIPS and are the prime example of how unique a Pika Rip character can be.
would you really want a pika rip over a unique pokemon?
 

Black/Light

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did you even realise that i didnt quote any arguments in my post?
You don't have to quote anything I say when you directly state to me (right after my post on said subject). . . .

"B/L, P&M arent nearly as unique as... just about every other pokemon that isnt a form of an existing pokemon character."

(Not only did you not understand my post, you where dead wrong in said statement)

would you really want a pika rip over a unique pokemon?
I LOVE unique characters with creative ways to play. As you can see I can find LOTS of ways for P&M to be unique and play creatively. So I like unique characters that can play creatively. . . just cause their Pika rips doesn't mean that P&M can't be unique and play creatively. I thought we went over that son. . . (Points to my quotes on the other page)
 

urban_shinobi

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Originally Posted by urban_shinobi
im talking about dragonite here idiot. of course I realize what i'm saying, im a grade ahead of everyone my age. (PS. realize with a z) frankly, all the arguement here are started on opinions, so that just makes your whole statement dumb. and yes, weak as in diluted, partianing to your brain, like with this statment:

yeah, and i wasnt talking about dragonite. you cant force me into a side of an argument you twit... do i look like a care about your grade in school? what argument is stated on opinions? there it is again... proofless theorys... i guess the stuff you say does dilute my patience...
i wsa stating a point, which seems to again come out here. this whole arguement in this post is basedo n opinions, hence the question " Which pokemon d oyou think will be in brawl." your pokemon or not, this is till based on opinion. and you cant change that. it's not proofless. just common fact.
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ummm, yea . hello. pokemon is a made up universe, and the closet thing to fact would be battle infor you got yourself. i'm not saying that they arent factual about pokeon, but it's made up, so the while thing is fiction. something you still probably dotn realize.
you are so tiring to argue with... you just said that the pokedex and anime are factual about pokemon, so you just admitted that your argument fails. then your trying to force stuff into my head with your idiocy...
wow. your a real dumba$$. let me rephrase, since you seem to stupid to comprehend. the pokedex....in pokemon.....is true.....in that world.....we live on Earth......your on the southern hemisphere.....i'm on the west............the pokedex.....pokemon.....and anything else partaining to them......made up in the game...........and series........is......not......real....
that means that a pkedex cant be brought a Aussie-Mart or whereever the hell you shop. I said they were factual about pokemon, BUT IT'S MADE UP. do you know what that means in this world. It means that it aint worth jack. nothing. no one admitted their arguement failed, dont be dumb. no ones forces you to come here and read this, then misunderstand it making your self look stupid. free will.

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trying to change the fact that ur stupid by saying my arguements are pointless is kinda idiotic. i mean come on, it's pokemon. it was pointless to begin with.
what? where do i start... even though you regularly give up on arguments, im stupid for pointing out that the ones you start have no real points even though they are clearly only aimed at me instead of factual information? if this argument was pointless to begin with, why did you start it in the first place?
because, i have nothing better to do. and I succeded in making you angry/annoyed. after this you'll prolly just deny it though. your not stupid for pointing out real arguement. your just stupid. again, information cant be fact if it comes from a fictional source.

the only reason I didnt post a response to your last giant post was the fact that there were like 2 pages formed in between the time it took for me to sleep for an afternoon or w/e. but hey, since you insist:

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No, what you know and think are two different things that you need to distinguish between. what you know can mainly be related to facts, unless of course your an idiot who belives everything he/she hears. what you think can be anything. fact or fiction. having a wtf pokemon would be great, because a gret wtf character would be dragonite. but sadly, your reasons are misguided. dragonite isnt a symbol: charizard is a dragon, and if it isnt then that is a horrible mistake on the part of the creators. Snorlax, Aeordactyl, and Gyrados learn hyper beam, the move that i think your talking about. i'd rather have snorlax in the game than dragonite, because it's more of a symbol than dragoinite. remeber that although they are making this for fans of the game (SSB not POKEMON) that they also want more consumers to buy that havent played before. in truth, snorlax would be better as a playable character, than just in a pokeball. ( but again, like many of the guesses here everyone has made, highly unlikely). a boss symbol? that's just whack. it's a boss, but that's really not important. everyone overcame the challenge. so what. and although it was ppular to fans, what about the other guy. I'm sure there are alot of fans of SSB who hate pokemon. the business needs to cater to them as well. dont say that you dont want dragointe because it isnt your favorite pokemon. that's the reason why many have come to this post. im mean hell, you made a friggin shrine.(creepy)

what you think is what you know... now stop trying to act smart, because you arent. charizard isnt even a dragon. do you see "dragon" in its typing? sure, it looks like one, but it isnt. *starts trying to translate your next part*... so now you're trying to compare it? bah, just look at its score on the polls.. its beating them... boss's are important. look at bowser, ganondorf. they started off as bosses that you overcame, and now they are important characters. they dont need to cater for the pokemon haters because everyone knows they are idiots and they shouldnt listen to their opinion. Dragonite should be in because it would be a great character for everyone. i made a support shrine then. you got a problem? why dont you start hastling Kaid now because of his lucario thread?
you havent devoloped a higher level of thinking, so you chose to undermine those who surpass you. some one has inferiority issues. althouhg charizard is not a dragon pokemon, by type, he is a dragon. look at the scores man, even a few day ago like a few people like charizard better. Bowser and gannondorf are actual bad guys. they arent good thing manipulated in to bad things, or good antagonists (like a rival/ challenge). they are evil, and were made to be evil. the reason I cant accept him as the boss symbol is because ofthe fact that he isnt always the boss symbol. I mean come on. In about every mario game, bowser is bad. in LoZ, ganondorf is bad. they are always the bosses, or at least one of the hardest enemies you'll face in the game. no one's hastling you. dragonite wont be in brawl, fadmon will have a much higher chance of beign in brawl.

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again and again and again i have to repeat it. This game isnt just for the fans of SSB. In order to have the highest amount of sales, and for replay value, they have to make it to custom not only the fans, but anyone who seems slightly interested to come and and play. you cant go and just put in any pokemon, but rather pokemon that are always there, and will be here later in the series. Snorlax is still in the later series, and Blazeken/Combusken are both up and comers. It's either they put in a regualr in the the show/any media , or a pokemon that had a big part in movies. we, the smash fans of america, arent the only ones playing.
blaziken/combusken arent always going to be there because they are starters... starters are limited to 1 generation, then they never appear in other games (unless it requires picking a starter, like mystery dungeon). Dragonite has appeard in every gen except 1, and it probably will keep appearing in future gens. like i said before, does anyone care abotu what poke haters thing? take out mewtwo and jiggly?
at that point I was talking about the show, sorry for not stressing that. starters are limited to one gen. duh. what kind of new is that. they wont appear, of course(unless you trade in some cases) dragoint appearing in ever gen has no say in the arguement, and no, it wont.and yes, they do. your so sheltered man. or worldly ingorant. whichever it matters, for sales. dont you know anthing about basic business. if you have a product for an audience, and you want to collecti n on peole outside of the audience as well, you'll need to have variety, and popularity. if a person is a poke hater, bring in a pokemon you know that they;ve seen in a commercial and make it cool. that makes that person a littel less hateful.


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What's wrong with you. Everyone has to agree? Heck no. New pokemon arent looking worse and worse. Your vision of pokemon is gtting worse and worse. You want games that have the same old crap over and over again. Better stats and better looking are your views, so dont hypocrisize yourself by making it seem like that is true. all because a pokemon gets newer moves, or that it's stats get raised doesnt make it better than all the rest guess. maybe the stats are raised so that the older ones can keep up. it's like giving viagra to a senior. you take that away, and guess who greatly surpasses who.
they have worse designs. they are less unique. they are increasing the number of rip offs. the new evolutions look pathetic. face it, 1st gen is the best gen. it isnt some sort of old car that cant keep up. why do you think they made a remake of it?
they made a remake of it so it could keep up. not to say 1st gen isnt the best, just isnt publicized all that much. it isnt like every game store in the world is selling red and blue. the newer pokemon are getting a little bit original, actually too original. like they picked a hat and molded together different animals and such. at any rate, they'll have the best chance. again, brawl isnt just for us, the poke fans and the smash fans. they want to draw in a new audience as well. everyone they can get in. so they're going to put in a newer model. at least that is how it goes in much of the world today.


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obviously you dont. again, in order to balance the game they have to raise their stats. it's only fair. the were design as more of a stone age like race. newer pokemon are getting much more advanced, and frankly i think some look much better.
i dont think i care about what you think now. 1st gen stone age design? newer gens more avanced design? you like the newer designs better? o yeah, Dainoosu (nosepass evo), Dosaidon (Rhydon evo) and buuburn (magmar evo) have better more (advanced) designs eh?
yea. that's kinda what happens with an evo. i meant advanced like when partaing to technology. like how computers now dont look like radioactive toaster. i actually liked the first two gens best, so dont go and put thoughts into peoples heads. did you actually think when you looked at some of the pokemon from 1st gen. many were based on prehistoric times.

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No, you fail to understand comparisons. They dont have to be the same, or revelant. they just have to be able to prove a point ( which is impossible for you, due to you lack of knowledge). I said that no new pokemon into the game of SSB ( not new to the pokemon franchise). Look at this whole post, actually the first few ones. All new. All have a hhigher possiblity of going in.
oh, im sorry but i cant tell when you are making points, because you mostly make points out of irrevilence like global warming and companys i've never heard of... can you please stop trying to act smart? its annoying. now what does this next part say? bah, im not going to bother...
you cant bother. or think. you perplexed, and as I've seen when your troubled or confused you try and degregate others ideas. thats you. it's good that you know that you cant see coparison,but you've got the wrong reason down buddy. and sorry, even if you named a company i didnt know of, i'd at least go and look on the internet, which your on genious.

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This arguement is pointless because of what your arguing for. I never said i didnt want dragonite in the game/ nor did i said it wasnt a favorite of mine. I'm stating the possiblity of many of the R/B series pokemon getting into SSB is low. No ones throwing the towl( w/e the hell that is). yes, any 1st gen would be a WTF character. not everyone would know it. What about the others, the children, the people who dont even like pokemon. Everyone wont know it (thing your think). Many people would know it(thing I know). A new pokemon is going to be able to be for everyone. Old pokemon, although cool and what brought us up as kids, are going to be wtf characters if they get in. I was stunned by mewtwo in SSBM, not pichu. again, dont say stuff that cant partain to everyone, not just teens, or fans.
you havnt stated any good reason why the first gen pokemon have lowered chances. everyone that ahs played pokemon knows the first gen. where do you get the idea that people play 3rd gen and then stop playing? the children that dont like pokemon? you mean they 5 year olds that think they're gangstas? newer pokemon are known much less than older pokemon because older pokemon ahve been around longer and were available when it had its beggest fanbase. are you too much of an idiot to understand that? i cant even point out something obvious without you coming up with a nonsense theory...
age. that is the main reason. kids today dont know about it. they make the games mainly for the peoples who are fans, and under like 25. everyone that has played pokemon may not know. a small child who lives near me did not know wtf a beedrill was. not a kangeskhan, nidoking, nidoqueen, omastar, kabutops, the list goes on. 5 year olds dont think they are gangstas. they dont evn think. not most at least. nonsense theories(which is the way to spell it plurally) are what much of our world is based on today. so dont give me that mess.


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ok, come on. stop acting dumb. IT HAS THE WORD PET IN IT. obviously it has something to do with domesticated animals (P..E..T..S). run a dang google search.
na i dont think i will... you should provide info, being the guy im arguing with, you should at least tell me what you're talking about. on the other hand, i dont care and this is irrevilent and pointless. now stop trying to act smart by using irrevilence.
omfg. it's self exfrigginplanatory. P-E-T- C-O. break that up. you get the word pet, and company(CO). an actual mistake on my part, they dont offer pets but pet supplies. go figure. but next time, at least use common sense. making a comparison or point isnt irrevelant. your just too stupid to understand.

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yea it is. what type of weed to they have in Austrailia man. HELLO. you cnat just go and expect everything you see on tv, or on your gameboy. grow a reality gland man.
oh no! i have a false sense of reality because i play video games! ever heard about facts of fiction or something like that? idiot...
my friend, your the stupid one for commenting on this. obviously if your in this site, you play video games. dumba$$. you have false sense of reality due to the fact that the mental capicty of your brain has been filled with fictional fact about pokemon and other crap, like veggiemite. you said pokemon was real. i corrected you. you questioned it agian. i made a point. idiot...

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yea, that is the only factors. Some kids cant vote, and they have to make a decision also on movie sales, game sales, and reviews for games. it doesnt make sense because of the lack of brain capacity, and lack of actual british school teachings in Aussieland.
noone watches the movies (i cant find them at video stores, they arent at the cinemas), the oldest gens remain with the best game sales and have the best reviews. stop trying to hide the fact that you are an idiot that doesnt make sense.
not many watch the movies, i can agree wit that. the old pokemon have better stuff like that because the poeple who played them were from out years of childhood, and grew up in the 90s. there isnt anything to hide here, because i am not a n idiot.


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pokemon arent real, thus pokedex isnt real either. so try and make sense of stuff, i know it's a strain for you, but someday you'll be in me grade group and you'll understand.
what? pokemon are real! can you PLEASE stop trying to act smart? you are an idiot. face it. i know pokemon and anything pokemon related isnt real (except products). did i say i did? im talking about the facts in the fiction
facts in fiction are fiction. *******. pokemon arent real. there is no magical pokemon land were you can pick up a pikachu, or get food from a Mr.Mime. im an idiot for actually distinguishing between reality and the stuff I see on TV. wow. that's rich.

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Originally Posted by urban_shinobi
o yea, and salamence is a much better choice. we are lacking in strong characters, but hey guess what, maybe we dont need them to be pokemon, and theere are much better choices. Snorlax is waaayyyyy better in popularity, and i don care what polls say. i want poliwrath thought

the majority of pokemon are small, cute and weak. the only striong pokemon isnt physical. there arent better choices than dragonite. why would snorlax be better? it isnt more unique. besides, it isnt even suitable for a character. it sleeps constantly. if you dont care about what the poll says, i dont care about what you think. if you want poliwrath, good for you. noone cares. it isnt popular/important.
wow. snorlax is always going to be a more popular pokemon, inevitable. yes a majority of pokemon are weak, whcih is why i said that maybe they dont need to be pokemon. and if dragonite is suitable for a character, then so is snorlax. he can walk, run, and usually he is using the move rest to gain energy. if you need to use a poll to help you think, then you not as smart as your mother tells you you are. if I want poliwrath, it's my decision. I like him because he was an unusual mix, between the fluidity of water and raw power. so what. that was for the actual wuestion of the thread, sorry for not keeping ti separate.
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and if you could, your bable is beginning to get too long, and takes up space. keep it short as you can, but as long as necassary. thanks

just like this post...too **** long
 

FiErCe_oNi

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You don't have to quote anything I say when you directly state to me (right after my post on said subject). . . .

"B/L, P&M arent nearly as unique as... just about every other pokemon that isnt a form of an existing pokemon character."

(Not only did you not understand my post, you where dead wrong in said statement)
i never stated i was replying to any of your posts. anyway, how is that statement wrong? its true...
I LOVE unique characters with creative ways to play. As you can see I can find LOTS of ways for P&M to be unique and play creatively. So I like unique characters that can play creatively. . . just cause their Pika rips doesn't mean that P&M can't be unique and play creatively. I thought we went over that son. . . (Points to my quotes on the other page)
theres a small amount of moves that it and pikachu can use that arent in the game there is also an extremely large amount of moves available to other pokemon that arent in the game. like i said before, they arent unique compared to non-rip-offs. in other words, non-rip-offs should get in before them, and that gives P&M a very low chance considering the amount of non-rip-off pokemon.
i wsa stating a point, which seems to again come out here. this whole arguement in this post is basedo n opinions, hence the question " Which pokemon d oyou think will be in brawl." your pokemon or not, this is till based on opinion. and you cant change that. it's not proofless. just common fact.
what are you going on about?
wow. your a real dumba$$. let me rephrase, since you seem to stupid to comprehend. the pokedex....in pokemon.....is true.....in that world.....we live on Earth......your on the southern hemisphere.....i'm on the west............the pokedex.....pokemon.....and anything else partaining to them......made up in the game...........and series........is......not......real....
that means that a pkedex cant be brought a Aussie-Mart or whereever the hell you shop. I said they were factual about pokemon, BUT IT'S MADE UP. do you know what that means in this world. It means that it aint worth jack. nothing. no one admitted their arguement failed, dont be dumb. no ones forces you to come here and read this, then misunderstand it making your self look stupid. free will.
you did admit your argument fails. you stated that the pokedex and anime arent based on pokemon, and then you changed your mind. by the way, the only one here with a false sense of reality is you. noone stated they thought pokemon was real, and you are still going on about it.
because, i have nothing better to do. and I succeded in making you angry/annoyed. after this you'll prolly just deny it though. your not stupid for pointing out real arguement. your just stupid. again, information cant be fact if it comes from a fictional source.
so you admit that you are spamming? there can be factual information in fiction, by the way. if there wasnt, there wouldnt be a storyline. what? you think that Link doesnt use swords and pikachu isnt an electric type?
the only reason I didnt post a response to your last giant post was the fact that there were like 2 pages formed in between the time it took for me to sleep for an afternoon or w/e. but hey, since you insist:
so you let a few pages get in your way, and after you escape from your argument, you decide to start more just to annoy me? anyway, this is the next post you made after i posted:
dammit. i leave for a day and you guys have a whole new page.
so you were aware of the pages in between that post, meaning you must have read them, and you still missed my response? sounds like BS...
you havent devoloped a higher level of thinking, so you chose to undermine those who surpass you. some one has inferiority issues.
why are you refering to yourself in second person? weirdo...
althouhg charizard is not a dragon pokemon, by type, he is a dragon. look at the scores man, even a few day ago like a few people like charizard better. Bowser and gannondorf are actual bad guys. they arent good thing manipulated in to bad things, or good antagonists (like a rival/ challenge). they are evil, and were made to be evil. the reason I cant accept him as the boss symbol is because ofthe fact that he isnt always the boss symbol. I mean come on. In about every mario game, bowser is bad. in LoZ, ganondorf is bad. they are always the bosses, or at least one of the hardest enemies you'll face in the game. no one's hastling you. dragonite wont be in brawl, fadmon will have a much higher chance of beign in brawl.
pokemon never has a character that appears as a boss regularly. Dragonite is the closest thing to a boss in pokemon though.
at that point I was talking about the show, sorry for not stressing that. starters are limited to one gen. duh. what kind of new is that. they wont appear, of course(unless you trade in some cases)
the show? nice cover up. anyway, may isnt even featured in the 4th gen season of anime anyway, so thats also BS. a character doesnt appear in a game if you require something besides the game for them to be featured in it.
dragoint appearing in ever gen has no say in the arguement, and no, it wont.and yes, they do. your so sheltered man. or worldly ingorant. whichever it matters, for sales. dont you know anthing about basic business. if you have a product for an audience, and you want to collecti n on peole outside of the audience as well, you'll need to have variety, and popularity. if a person is a poke hater, bring in a pokemon you know that they;ve seen in a commercial and make it cool. that makes that person a littel less hateful.
you could at least list what you are talking about in a paragraph instead of just saying no and yes. Dragonite appearing in every gen does have a say in the argument, because it is recognisable to every pokemon player no matter what pokemon game they buy. if it has appeared in every gen except one where it was filled in with a rip off of it, whats stopping it from appearing in 5th and 6th gens? you think that the developers of smash are going to listen to poke haters and take out every pokemon? you never think, do you? poke haters will always hate pokemon, and they hate the newer pokemon the most.
they made a remake of it so it could keep up. not to say 1st gen isnt the best, just isnt publicized all that much. it isnt like every game store in the world is selling red and blue. the newer pokemon are getting a little bit original, actually too original. like they picked a hat and molded together different animals and such. at any rate, they'll have the best chance. again, brawl isnt just for us, the poke fans and the smash fans. they want to draw in a new audience as well. everyone they can get in. so they're going to put in a newer model. at least that is how it goes in much of the world today.
a game doesnt have to be publicized that much to be the best. shops dont sell R/B because they have remakes on a newer console that is auctually available... newer pokemon more original? use some examples. you are using proofless theories again.
yea. that's kinda what happens with an evo. i meant advanced like when partaing to technology. like how computers now dont look like radioactive toaster. i actually liked the first two gens best, so dont go and put thoughts into peoples heads. did you actually think when you looked at some of the pokemon from 1st gen. many were based on prehistoric times.
you're babbling... did you even have any points in this post?
you cant bother. or think. you perplexed, and as I've seen when your troubled or confused you try and degregate others ideas. thats you. it's good that you know that you cant see coparison,but you've got the wrong reason down buddy. and sorry, even if you named a company i didnt know of, i'd at least go and look on the internet, which your on genious.
yay! more proofless theorys! we should just name you the king of proofless theorys. maybe you should give an example of me de-gregating (wtf) ideas when im confused instead of making up BS.
age. that is the main reason. kids today dont know about it. they make the games mainly for the peoples who are fans, and under like 25. everyone that has played pokemon may not know. a small child who lives near me did not know wtf a beedrill was. not a kangeskhan, nidoking, nidoqueen, omastar, kabutops, the list goes on. 5 year olds dont think they are gangstas. they dont evn think. not most at least. nonsense theories(which is the way to spell it plurally) are what much of our world is based on today. so dont give me that mess.
5 year olds think what they are told. nonsense theories are what the world is based on? yeah, noone ever uses facts in this modern day. they never use examples either. the modern man uses nonsense theories and believes in greek gods as well as the fact that the world is flat, right? anyway, if you want to talk about correct spelling, would you like me to go through everything you have said so far and bold everything spelt incorrectly?
omfg. it's self exfrigginplanatory. P-E-T- C-O. break that up. you get the word pet, and company(CO). an actual mistake on my part, they dont offer pets but pet supplies. go figure. but next time, at least use common sense. making a comparison or point isnt irrevelant. your just too stupid to understand.
making a comparison with something completely irrevelent and unrecognisable is irrevelant.
my friend, your the stupid one for commenting on this. obviously if your in this site, you play video games. dumba$$. you have false sense of reality due to the fact that the mental capicty of your brain has been filled with fictional fact about pokemon and other crap, like veggiemite. you said pokemon was real. i corrected you. you questioned it agian. i made a point. idiot...
that would make sense if i said pokemon was real in the first place, but i didnt. if being paranoid to the point that you think people believe that fiction is reality, even without them even showing any signs of it isnt idiotic, i dont know what is.
not many watch the movies, i can agree wit that. the old pokemon have better stuff like that because the poeple who played them were from out years of childhood, and grew up in the 90s. there isnt anything to hide here, because i am not a n idiot.
if you werent an idiot, you would have made at least one point by now. unlike me, you havnt.
facts in fiction are fiction. *******. pokemon arent real. there is no magical pokemon land were you can pick up a pikachu, or get food from a Mr.Mime. im an idiot for actually distinguishing between reality and the stuff I see on TV. wow. that's rich.
you're an idiot for having to disguingish between fiction and reality in the first place, because everyone has enough common sense to know the difference without even thinking.
wow. snorlax is always going to be a more popular pokemon, inevitable. yes a majority of pokemon are weak, whcih is why i said that maybe they dont need to be pokemon. and if dragonite is suitable for a character, then so is snorlax. he can walk, run, and usually he is using the move rest to gain energy. if you need to use a poll to help you think, then you not as smart as your mother tells you you are. if I want poliwrath, it's my decision. I like him because he was an unusual mix, between the fluidity of water and raw power. so what. that was for the actual wuestion of the thread, sorry for not keeping ti separate.
yay! proofless theories galore! even without knowing my mother, you have created a theory out of thin air about her thinking im smart. if people wanted snorlax, he would be on the poll... a poll is a good tool to help you think, because it helps you understand the opinions of multiple people. if you want poliwrath, noone cares.
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and if you could, your bable is beginning to get too long, and takes up space. keep it short as you can, but as long as necassary. thanks

just like this post...too **** long
na, i dont think i will... if you arent intelligent enough to go through every point without skipping some, thats your problem. i would consider this proposal if you attempt to make your posts more understandable, but you seem to be incapable of doing this.
 

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i never stated i was replying to any of your posts. anyway, how is that statement wrong? its true....
. . . So talking about P&M, putting B/L in front of said comment and than making a statment that relates to my last post means your not replying to my post? I said it's dead wrong because there are OTHER pokemon that could be more of a clone of pokemon like M2 and Pika w/o being rips. It's actually, if you can believe such a thing, up to the divs how characters work so they can make Deoxy work like M2 if they wanted.

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theres a small amount of moves that it and pikachu can use that arent in the game there is also an extremely large amount of moves available to other pokemon that arent in the game. like i said before, they arent unique compared to non-rip-offs. in other words, non-rip-offs should get in before them, and that gives P&M a very low chance considering the amount of non-rip-off pokemon.
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Wow, so you are making this game now? When did this happen son? I mean, you MUST be working on this game to know their chances are low right? You MUST be behind something in this game to know that. . .or it's your opinion.

But look homs, I don't understand the first half of what you said but I can list a few moves Pika aint doing in SSB. that they can use in their own ways and rights. Charge/ Spark/ Helping Hand/ Thunder Wave/ Shock Wave/ Charge Beam/ Flash/ Baton Pass just to name a few.
 

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Personally, I think sex offenders who violate paroll should be forced to read this thread's entirety. After about 3 pages I was already considering ripping out my own genitals in anguish. Seriously, 80+ pages of high school bickering and bigoted idiocy.

Jigglypuff & Mewtwo have a good shot at making it back in. Past them, the only anime character popular enough to make it into the game (with arms, reasonable size, etc.) would be Lucario, by a mile. What Pokemon make it into Brawl has no basis in the games at all, otherwise fighting-type Pokemon would be the only ones to be featured, since they are generally the most skilled in conventional personal combat. Blaziken and Goukazaru seem like good ideas until you realize that both have little to no representation in the anime or movies. Yet.

My opinion is that Lucario will be the premier Pokemon universe addition to Brawl's roster.
 

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Yes lucario would be fine but what would be his move set?
Others no one thought of:Zangoose,Sceptile,Slowking,Kaboutops,Mr.Mime,Hypno.
 

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Past them, the only anime character popular enough to make it into the game (with arms, reasonable size, etc.) would be Lucario, by a mile. What Pokemon make it into Brawl has no basis in the games at all, otherwise fighting-type Pokemon would be the only ones to be featured, since they are generally the most skilled in conventional personal combat. Blaziken and Goukazaru seem like good ideas until you realize that both have little to no representation in the anime or movies.
Actually, Blaze had a good chunk of the Deoxy movie. And if pokemon where choosen by anime than Meowth would have been in SSB. and not Jpuff.
They seem to be choosen duo to fan-base and/ or popularity and not really by the anime. . .
 

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Not only did Blaziken appear in the Deoxys movie and Ash's final match in Johto League, but May's Combusken evolves into Blaziken in the last couple of episodes she appears in before Ash goes to Sinnoh. In that 2 parter, May's Blaziken fought with Ash's Sceptile in a contest which both tied. I don't think he'd be added because of anime appearance though.

Lucario seems to be a good choice now, but when I submitted my votes months ago I didn't vote for him. Wish I could change that now. He seemed cool in the anime, plus in D/P you can only get him by evolving Rioru that you can only get once from an egg. That makes him rare. Still, it won't affect me much if he doesn't make it in since I'm all for Mewtwo and Pichu.
 

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its just 1 opinion...
And Fierce Oni, you are arguing that Scyther is lame,
i never said Scyther was lame. i just think it holding a parasol with its mouth would look lame, as well as its image as it uses alot of items.
but Scyther has almost TWICE the voted of Dragonite. The consensus seems to disagree with you.
i wasn't talking about Dragonite, was I? why does Dragonite have to be a part of every argument i have just because i support him? the fact that i cant see Scyther working with its scythes instead of arms doesnt have much to do with Dragonite, does it?
 

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The fact that you are the main supporter of Dragonite undermines your case, as you are deriding a character more popular than the one your Sig champions.
 

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if noone took me seriosuly, then i think they wouldnt reply to any of my posts.
anyway, thats like saying noone will take you seriously if you try to point out that Lucario is more deserving than Blaziken.
 

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Lucario is a popular choice at the moment, and Lucario and Blaze are by far the two most popular. Arguing one versus the other is a way to pass the time.

But when you're behind by that much, people stop caring.
 

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I think I understand why I get so frustrated with you guys. It's because I want to put in some sort of input, but I don't know half of these new pokemon you guys keep talking about ¬_¬
 

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I would rather rely on my own experience if I were to make a point about something. Yeah, research is good, but I wouldn't feel confident enough arguing a point that I wouldn't know through experience.
 

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Blaziken is here to stay.If there was a deoxys how would you change forms and what would his orb special be?
You change to speed form by running, defence form by crouching, and attack form by smashing.
As for his orb special... Double Team! thousands of copies of Deoxys appear on the field and start attacking!
 

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Pfft. Forget Blaziken!

Gimme Hitmonchan or Hitmonlee!
Hitmonchan would be very interesting type of character to play as. I would like to see him stick & move, bob & weave, & pick his poison waiting for his opportunity to strike! Also, he would be Smash's first boxer.

Then again, Blaziken's a kickboxer & just way too popular for words.

Oh yeah, and Hitmonlee is Pokemon's Bruce Lee, nough said. He came out of a pokeball in Smash 64 so why not add him to Brawl?
 

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So far, Blaziken is just to hot to handle in the voting polls. Sizzlin at best!
http://www.akelataka.com/artwork/fanart/pokemon/blaziken.jpg
Thats like one of the first good fan-art pics of Blaze I saw back when I use to look for good fan-art. I made some fan-art of Blaze myself.
http://imageigloo.com/images/8707BlazeKickM.jpg
(I got one with Blaze and Lucario that looks MUCH better but a few select people can't seem to look pass their placement in said pic)
 

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I've looked at your work just now and I've got to say that I'm impressed B/L. You have unlimited potential my brotha!
AWW, thanx ^_^.
Might actually start making ink and color fan-art (and actually put more affort into doing them) with comments like that.
 

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*coughs*

Their legs would have to be doing an Esher for them to not fall over.
I have shown said picture to many others (even have my own art thread on Serebii.net. . . which I should update with some Absol pics) and you are the only person that said they can't stand like that. I heard that it looks alil "suggestive" but nothing about them not being able to stand like that.

Like I said, try to stand like that. . . unless your legs are unevenly sized you shouldn't have a problem.
 

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uhh mewtwo again.
if not mewtwo then paras.

MEWTWO

Blazaken is a chicken.
mewtwo>paras>Lucario> blaziken
 
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