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urban_shinobi
im talking about dragonite here idiot. of course I realize what i'm saying, im a grade ahead of everyone my age. (PS. realize with a z) frankly, all the arguement here are started on opinions, so that just makes your whole statement dumb. and yes, weak as in diluted, partianing to your brain, like with this statment:
yeah, and i wasnt talking about dragonite. you cant force me into a side of an argument you twit... do i look like a care about your grade in school? what argument is stated on opinions? there it is again... proofless theorys... i guess the stuff you say does dilute my patience...
i wsa stating a point, which seems to again come out here. this whole arguement in this post is basedo n opinions, hence the question " Which pokemon d oyou think will be in brawl." your pokemon or not, this is till based on opinion. and you cant change that. it's not proofless. just common fact.
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ummm, yea . hello.
pokemon is a made up universe, and the closet thing to fact would be battle infor you got yourself. i'm not saying that they arent factual about pokeon, but it's made up, so the while thing is fiction. something you still probably dotn realize.
you are so tiring to argue with... you just said that the pokedex and
anime are factual about pokemon, so you just admitted that your argument fails. then your trying to force stuff into my head with your idiocy...
wow. your a real dumba$$. let me rephrase, since you seem to stupid to comprehend. the pokedex....in pokemon.....is true.....in that world.....we live on Earth......your on the southern hemisphere.....i'm on the west............the pokedex.....pokemon.....and anything else partaining to them......made up in the game...........and series........is......not......real....
that means that a pkedex cant be brought a Aussie-Mart or whereever the hell you shop. I said they were factual about pokemon, BUT IT'S MADE UP. do you know what that means in this world. It means that it aint worth jack. nothing. no one admitted their arguement failed, dont be dumb. no ones forces you to come here and read this, then misunderstand it making your self look stupid. free will.
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trying to change the fact that ur stupid by saying my arguements are pointless is kinda idiotic. i mean come on, it's pokemon. it was pointless to begin with.
what? where do i start... even though you regularly give up on arguments, im stupid for pointing out that the ones you start have no real points even though they are clearly only aimed at me instead of factual information? if this argument was pointless to begin with, why did you start it in the first place?
because, i have nothing better to do. and I succeded in making you angry/annoyed. after this you'll prolly just deny it though. your not stupid for pointing out real arguement. your just stupid. again, information cant be fact if it comes from a fictional source.
the only reason I didnt post a response to your last giant post was the fact that there were like 2 pages formed in between the time it took for me to sleep for an afternoon or w/e. but hey, since you insist:
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urban_shinobi
No, what you know and think are two different things that you need to distinguish between. what you know can mainly be related to facts, unless of course your an idiot who belives everything he/she hears. what you think can be anything. fact or fiction. having a wtf pokemon would be great, because a gret wtf character would be dragonite. but sadly, your reasons are misguided. dragonite isnt a symbol: charizard is a dragon, and if it isnt then that is a horrible mistake on the part of the creators. Snorlax, Aeordactyl, and Gyrados learn hyper beam, the move that i think your talking about. i'd rather have snorlax in the game than dragonite, because it's more of a symbol than dragoinite. remeber that although they are making this for fans of the game (SSB not POKEMON) that they also want more consumers to buy that havent played before. in truth, snorlax would be better as a playable character, than just in a pokeball. ( but again, like many of the guesses here everyone has made, highly unlikely). a boss symbol? that's just whack. it's a boss, but that's really not important. everyone overcame the challenge. so what. and although it was ppular to fans, what about the other guy. I'm sure there are alot of fans of SSB who hate pokemon. the business needs to cater to them as well. dont say that you dont want dragointe because it isnt your favorite pokemon. that's the reason why many have come to this post. im mean hell, you made a friggin shrine.(creepy)
what you think is what you know... now stop trying to act smart, because you arent. charizard isnt even a dragon. do you see "dragon" in its typing? sure, it looks like one, but it isnt. *starts trying to translate your next part*... so now you're trying to compare it? bah, just look at its score on the polls.. its beating them... boss's are important. look at bowser, ganondorf. they started off as bosses that you overcame, and now they are important characters. they dont need to cater for the pokemon haters because everyone knows they are idiots and they shouldnt listen to their opinion. Dragonite should be in because it would be a great character for everyone. i made a support shrine then. you got a problem? why dont you start hastling Kaid now because of his lucario thread?
you havent devoloped a higher level of thinking, so you chose to undermine those who surpass you. some one has inferiority issues. althouhg charizard is not a dragon pokemon, by type, he is a dragon. look at the scores man, even a few day ago like a few people like charizard better. Bowser and gannondorf are actual bad guys. they arent good thing manipulated in to bad things, or good antagonists (like a rival/ challenge). they are evil, and were made to be evil. the reason I cant accept him as the boss symbol is because ofthe fact that he isnt always the boss symbol. I mean come on. In about every mario game, bowser is bad. in LoZ, ganondorf is bad. they are always the bosses, or at least one of the hardest enemies you'll face in the game. no one's hastling you. dragonite wont be in brawl, fadmon will have a much higher chance of beign in brawl.
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again and again and again i have to repeat it. This game isnt just for the fans of SSB. In order to have the highest amount of sales, and for replay value, they have to make it to custom not only the fans, but anyone who seems slightly interested to come and and play. you cant go and just put in any pokemon, but rather pokemon that are always there, and will be here later in the series. Snorlax is still in the later series, and Blazeken/Combusken are both up and comers. It's either they put in a regualr in the the show/any media , or a pokemon that had a big part in movies. we, the smash fans of america, arent the only ones playing.
blaziken/combusken arent always going to be there because they are starters... starters are limited to 1 generation, then they never appear in other games (unless it requires picking a starter, like mystery dungeon). Dragonite has appeard in every gen except 1, and it probably will keep appearing in future gens. like i said before, does anyone care abotu what poke haters thing? take out mewtwo and jiggly?
at that point I was talking about the show, sorry for not stressing that. starters are limited to one gen. duh. what kind of new is that. they wont appear, of course(unless you trade in some cases) dragoint appearing in ever gen has no say in the arguement, and no, it wont.and yes, they do. your so sheltered man. or worldly ingorant. whichever it matters, for sales. dont you know anthing about basic business. if you have a product for an audience, and you want to collecti n on peole outside of the audience as well, you'll need to have variety, and popularity. if a person is a poke hater, bring in a pokemon you know that they;ve seen in a commercial and make it cool. that makes that person a littel less hateful.
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What's wrong with you. Everyone has to agree? Heck no. New pokemon arent looking worse and worse. Your vision of pokemon is gtting worse and worse. You want games that have the same old crap over and over again. Better stats and better looking are your views, so dont hypocrisize yourself by making it seem like that is true. all because a pokemon gets newer moves, or that it's stats get raised doesnt make it better than all the rest guess. maybe the stats are raised so that the older ones can keep up. it's like giving viagra to a senior. you take that away, and guess who greatly surpasses who.
they have worse designs. they are less unique. they are increasing the number of rip offs. the new evolutions look pathetic. face it, 1st gen is the best gen. it isnt some sort of old car that cant keep up. why do you think they made a remake of it?
they made a remake of it so it could keep up. not to say 1st gen isnt the best, just isnt publicized all that much. it isnt like every game store in the world is selling red and blue. the newer pokemon are getting a little bit original, actually too original. like they picked a hat and molded together different animals and such. at any rate, they'll have the best chance. again, brawl isnt just for us, the poke fans and the smash fans. they want to draw in a new audience as well. everyone they can get in. so they're going to put in a newer model. at least that is how it goes in much of the world today.
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obviously you dont. again, in order to balance the game they have to raise their stats. it's only fair. the were design as more of a stone age like race. newer pokemon are getting much more advanced, and frankly i think some look much better.
i dont think i care about what you think now. 1st gen stone age design? newer gens more avanced design? you like the newer designs better? o yeah, Dainoosu (nosepass evo), Dosaidon (Rhydon evo) and buuburn (magmar evo) have better more (advanced) designs eh?
yea. that's kinda what happens with an evo. i meant advanced like when partaing to technology. like how computers now dont look like radioactive toaster. i actually liked the first two gens best, so dont go and put thoughts into peoples heads. did you actually think when you looked at some of the pokemon from 1st gen. many were based on prehistoric times.
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No, you fail to understand comparisons. They dont have to be the same, or revelant. they just have to be able to prove a point ( which is impossible for you, due to you lack of knowledge). I said that no new pokemon into the game of SSB ( not new to the pokemon franchise). Look at this whole post, actually the first few ones. All new. All have a hhigher possiblity of going in.
oh, im sorry but i cant tell when you are making points, because you mostly make points out of irrevilence like global warming and companys i've never heard of... can you please stop trying to act smart? its annoying. now what does this next part say? bah, im not going to bother...
you cant bother. or think. you perplexed, and as I've seen when your troubled or confused you try and degregate others ideas. thats you. it's good that you know that you cant see coparison,but you've got the wrong reason down buddy. and sorry, even if you named a company i didnt know of, i'd at least go and look on the internet, which your on genious.
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This arguement is pointless because of what your arguing for. I never said i didnt want dragonite in the game/ nor did i said it wasnt a favorite of mine. I'm stating the possiblity of many of the R/B series pokemon getting into SSB is low. No ones throwing the towl( w/e the hell that is). yes, any 1st gen would be a WTF character. not everyone would know it. What about the others, the children, the people who dont even like pokemon. Everyone wont know it (thing your think). Many people would know it(thing I know). A new pokemon is going to be able to be for everyone. Old pokemon, although cool and what brought us up as kids, are going to be wtf characters if they get in. I was stunned by mewtwo in SSBM, not pichu. again, dont say stuff that cant partain to everyone, not just teens, or fans.
you havnt stated any good reason why the first gen pokemon have lowered chances. everyone that ahs played pokemon knows the first gen. where do you get the idea that people play 3rd gen and then stop playing? the children that dont like pokemon? you mean they 5 year olds that think they're gangstas? newer pokemon are known much less than older pokemon because older pokemon ahve been around longer and were available when it had its beggest fanbase. are you too much of an idiot to understand that? i cant even point out something obvious without you coming up with a nonsense theory...
age. that is the main reason. kids today dont know about it. they make the games mainly for the peoples who are fans, and under like 25. everyone that has played pokemon may not know. a small child who lives near me did not know wtf a beedrill was. not a kangeskhan, nidoking, nidoqueen, omastar, kabutops, the list goes on. 5 year olds dont think they are gangstas. they dont evn think. not most at least. nonsense theories(which is the way to spell it plurally) are what much of our world is based on today. so dont give me that mess.
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ok, come on. stop acting dumb. IT HAS THE WORD PET IN IT. obviously it has something to do with domesticated animals (P..E..T..S). run a dang google search.
na i dont think i will... you should provide info, being the guy im arguing with, you should at least tell me what you're talking about. on the other hand, i dont care and this is irrevilent and pointless. now stop trying to act smart by using irrevilence.
omfg. it's self exfrigginplanatory. P-E-T- C-O. break that up. you get the word pet, and company(CO). an actual mistake on my part, they dont offer pets but pet supplies. go figure. but next time, at least use common sense. making a comparison or point isnt irrevelant. your just too stupid to understand.
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yea it is. what type of weed to they have in Austrailia man. HELLO. you cnat just go and expect everything you see on tv, or on your gameboy. grow a reality gland man.
oh no! i have a false sense of reality because i play video games! ever heard about facts of fiction or something like that? idiot...
my friend, your the stupid one for commenting on this. obviously if your in this site, you play video games. dumba$$. you have false sense of reality due to the fact that the mental capicty of your brain has been filled with fictional fact about pokemon and other crap, like veggiemite. you said pokemon was real. i corrected you. you questioned it agian. i made a point. idiot...
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yea, that is the only factors. Some kids cant vote, and they have to make a decision also on movie sales, game sales, and reviews for games. it doesnt make sense because of the lack of brain capacity, and lack of actual british school teachings in Aussieland.
noone watches the movies (i cant find them at video stores, they arent at the cinemas), the oldest gens remain with the best game sales and have the best reviews. stop trying to hide the fact that you are an idiot that doesnt make sense.
not many watch the movies, i can agree wit that. the old pokemon have better stuff like that because the poeple who played them were from out years of childhood, and grew up in the 90s. there isnt anything to hide here, because i am not a n idiot.
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pokemon arent real, thus pokedex isnt real either. so try and make sense of stuff, i know it's a strain for you, but someday you'll be in me grade group and you'll understand.
what? pokemon are real! can you PLEASE stop trying to act smart? you are an idiot. face it. i know pokemon and anything pokemon related isnt real (except products). did i say i did? im talking about the facts in the fiction
facts in fiction are fiction. *******. pokemon arent real. there is no magical pokemon land were you can pick up a pikachu, or get food from a Mr.Mime. im an idiot for actually distinguishing between reality and the stuff I see on TV. wow. that's rich.
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urban_shinobi
o yea, and salamence is a much better choice. we are lacking in strong characters, but hey guess what, maybe we dont need them to be pokemon, and theere are much better choices. Snorlax is waaayyyyy better in popularity, and i don care what polls say. i want poliwrath thought
the majority of pokemon are small, cute and weak. the only striong pokemon isnt physical. there arent better choices than dragonite. why would snorlax be better? it isnt more unique. besides, it isnt even suitable for a character. it sleeps constantly. if you dont care about what the poll says, i dont care about what you think. if you want poliwrath, good for you. noone cares. it isnt popular/important.
wow. snorlax is always going to be a more popular pokemon, inevitable. yes a majority of pokemon are weak, whcih is why i said that maybe they dont need to be pokemon. and if dragonite is suitable for a character, then so is snorlax. he can walk, run, and usually he is using the move rest to gain energy. if you need to use a poll to help you think, then you not as smart as your mother tells you you are. if I want poliwrath, it's my decision. I like him because he was an unusual mix, between the fluidity of water and raw power. so what. that was for the actual wuestion of the thread, sorry for not keeping ti separate.
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and if you could, your bable is beginning to get too long, and takes up space. keep it short as you can, but as long as necassary. thanks
just like this post...too **** long