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Whats with the camping?
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Overswarm
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If any of those out there complaining about camping could actually camp effectively, they'd know exactly how to get around it. I'll probably spill the beans later... but not until I get a few other characters up to par in case ROB doesn't work out. But there are ways around camping that are pretty fool proof, and most of them are even *gasp* skillful and impressive
meepxzero
Smash Master
Lets make a new rule dont friendly with campers. While all the agressive players get better the campers can stay the same. Sound good >>. Plus playing campers is boring might as well beat them in tourney. I know anyone that camps me in a friendly i will play one game then leave lol or sandbag the rest of the time.
Rebel581
Smash Champion
Can we get something straight? I consider playing defensive fun and I also call it camping. While aho might not believe me, I enjoy moving in and out of the range of my opponent, trying to lure attacks so I can hit them. I just played a ****load of matches today with Aero, ChRed, and Voodoo. While I still shot Pit's arrows and didn't recklessly run in, I didn't roll away during the match (very often, sometimes it was the better choice to roll away and shoot an arrow, then attack). But going against G&W by just running in is a stupid idea. I have to wait for a good opportunity to interrupt him. That's still camping, but is that the camping we're talking about in this topic? That kind of camping is fun. My matches with Aero can go on for a half a minute without us even hitting each other, but we're placing out hitboxes and concentrating incredibly hard on getting the hit, and not getting hit ourselves. THOSE are the matches I loved in Melee.
If we're talking about projectile spam camping, that doesn't work and is annoying. Pit's side-B is a horrible move. I can't believe I thought that move was good.
But playing aggressive isn't fun for me either and isn't safe. I don't like running in and getting hit. If aggressive is what you guys are calling what I want to do, then I'll play aggressive. Otherwise, I'm sticking to camping. Just not bad camping.
If we're talking about projectile spam camping, that doesn't work and is annoying. Pit's side-B is a horrible move. I can't believe I thought that move was good.
But playing aggressive isn't fun for me either and isn't safe. I don't like running in and getting hit. If aggressive is what you guys are calling what I want to do, then I'll play aggressive. Otherwise, I'm sticking to camping. Just not bad camping.
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Smart camping is fun as hell.
Overswarm
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**** straight!
My favorite part about camping is that my enjoyment extends beyond the actual match. If you play really aggressive and own someone in two minutes, they are left in awe for a short while and you might get a pat on the back or a few hundred video views.
If you CAMP against someone and own them in eight minutes and leave them with a feeling of helplessness, that victory lasts for eternity in their mind, and the entire match (and afterwards), you get to see them be upset about your camping. So fun.
hova
Smash Champion
so you guys are pretty much just failures at life in general?
pockyD
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it's fun to see people unhappy and not want to play the game anymore?
i dunno, you just might be what's wrong with the community
FartKnocker
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Man Up! It's Brawl, Not Camp! Watch Me Bench These Doritos!
DoH
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You realize people hate you, right OS?
UltraDavidSRK
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You realize you have no idea what it means to play a competitive tournament game, right? You take the game seriously enough to find Smashboards, you take competing in tournament seriously enough to post on the Tournament Discussions forum, and yet you completely discount one of Brawl's most effective strategies.
If you just wanna play casually, fine, play however you want, make up whatever ridiculous no-keepaway rules you want, but if you play in tournaments you forfeit all ability to rip on any effective strategy.
If you just wanna play casually, fine, play however you want, make up whatever ridiculous no-keepaway rules you want, but if you play in tournaments you forfeit all ability to rip on any effective strategy.
FrankBurns
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In stock matches, sure I'll just come off the little platform and start fighting.
In timed matches, I will stay there if I am ahead and there is like less than half the time left, but if it isn't half done yet then I'll attack whenever I can. Or if I face a Samus/Lucario then I'll stop their charge if I can.
In timed matches, I will stay there if I am ahead and there is like less than half the time left, but if it isn't half done yet then I'll attack whenever I can. Or if I face a Samus/Lucario then I'll stop their charge if I can.
Mr P
Smash Ace
Is it strange that i have more respect for hitler than a very average player who camps ?
I mean what the hell is wrong with you people, camping can be an effective tactic at the right times but it can also be equally effective to be aggressive (chillin) ? All that is significant is that you play smart regardless of whether you camp or not. But for me anyone who will only stand at one end of the stage and spam one move over and over and roll away all the time is an absaloute piece of ****. We all know about the play to win attitude etc, we've all been to tournies but this is still just a game and fun is an important aspect aswell sometimes people need to remember that too.
Camping is not synonymous with playing to win.
I mean what the hell is wrong with you people, camping can be an effective tactic at the right times but it can also be equally effective to be aggressive (chillin) ? All that is significant is that you play smart regardless of whether you camp or not. But for me anyone who will only stand at one end of the stage and spam one move over and over and roll away all the time is an absaloute piece of ****. We all know about the play to win attitude etc, we've all been to tournies but this is still just a game and fun is an important aspect aswell sometimes people need to remember that too.
Camping is not synonymous with playing to win.
Who cares about camping, camping almost never wins you a tournament and will only net you good enough results to be better than competent players but never better than good/great players.
Brightside6382
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oh man SRK's gonna take over SWF. (also he's right)
UltraDavidSRK
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Wow, you seem like a real nice guy, ya huge douche. Like, if you're gonna randomly devalue the Holocaust for no reason, at least be funny about it.
All I'm trying to do is to get people to see that keepaway and runaway can be effective strategies and are always just as legitimate (even where not as effective) as playing rushdown or zoning. The fun of keepaway and runaway is in setting up a puzzle for the opponent to solve and doing everything you can to not let him solve it. That can be fun, just as fun as trying to solve a defensive player's defense can be. And there's no real difference between pressing B on one side of the screen and pressing A up close. Both are ways to damage the opponent and control his space and options.
Man, I've gotta say, I hate using the term "camping" in place of keepaway or runaway, not only because it's less descriptive, but because it makes me think of how those frickin disgusting Scots used to wallow in their own fetid dump in those tribal camps they'd vomit up every once in a while. Good thing England brought them civilization, hope that Union Jack flies forever.
Definitely wrong.
The majority of smashers who say camping is gay camps. It's just not obvious. You may not be as extreme as a Pit running on opposite sides of the stage to shoot arrows at you, but it does exist. I have a tactic where I never attack where my opponent actually is. I constantly throw aerials inches in front or above the person in hope that they'll run into it. It's called spacing and its a commonly used form of camping.
No offense, but Meep, you are very effective at this. Your game is about switching from attacking to "fake attacks" which usually forces your opponent to roll into you. In regards to Melee, dash dancing with a Marth or Falcon was a scary camping tactic which stalls time in order to wait for your opponent to mess up. I can say there are only a small amount of people who play Smash who camp little to none including Aho.
The reason why so many people camp against you, Aho, is 'cuz you're VERY aggressive. In Melee, I couldn't even gain any composure to plan an attack on you 'cuz I was too busy trying to get through a barrage of whatever you were barraging with. You are the reason why I camped, Aho. You created me. *Lightning strikes.*
soap
Smash Hero
^thats the best strat in melee, extreme pressure, give em no time to think
Europhoria
Smash Lord
Mr P
Smash Ace
This guy is hilarious, i would love to argue something out with you but i mean i cant even take you seriously until you've even played this game. Go back back to shoryuken ****ing moron.
God save the Queen
Rebel581
Smash Champion
No, absolutely not. That's not at all why I like camping and that's just being a douchebag. InfernoOmni has got exactly what I like to do and what I plan to do in the future down to the very last word.
Banks
Smash Hero
this whole thread is probably based on people going even / losing to extreme campers LOL
choknater
Smash Obsessed
I enjoy camping, especially the barbecues and smores...
Probably the only really annoying thing about camping is when you forget to bring your toiletries! But I guess it's alright, because you start feeling like you're living more on the wild side. Pooping in your own cathole for the first time is exhilarating.
Probably the only really annoying thing about camping is when you forget to bring your toiletries! But I guess it's alright, because you start feeling like you're living more on the wild side. Pooping in your own cathole for the first time is exhilarating.
BigRick
Smash Master
oh snapz... UltraDavid on smashboards
I would've never expected this
I would've never expected this
g-regulate
Smash Hero
top 4 placers at C3 didnt camp. i know everyone just kinda "assumes" that azen camps, he plays defensive but doesnt straight-up run away and projectile.
BigRick
Smash Master
camping is camping, no matter if it's long-range or not
lol Azen is such a nice guy he camps and ppl let it slide
g-regulate
Smash Hero
yea but my point is, if you approach azen, hes not going to run away. he'll just combo you to hell, even chase you down for the kill. aho is talking about total scrubs who base their entire game around running away and camping.
g-regulate
Smash Hero
... like overswarm
BigRick
Smash Master
oh I see, you guys have a problem with runaway...
Hmm personally I see it that way... to me runaway players cannot fight from up close, so they'll try to run away from me so that they can fight from a position that is advantageous for them, a ranged position.
Fireballs are ranged attacks, so if someone is using them to actually rack up damage, then they are not campers.
Hmm personally I see it that way... to me runaway players cannot fight from up close, so they'll try to run away from me so that they can fight from a position that is advantageous for them, a ranged position.
Fireballs are ranged attacks, so if someone is using them to actually rack up damage, then they are not campers.
Brightside6382
Smash Lord
lol he brings up valid points and since you can't argue against any of them you try to save face. GTFO scrubThis guy is hilarious, i would love to argue something out with you but i mean i cant even take you seriously until you've even played this game. Go back back to shoryuken ****ing moron.
God save the Queen
BigRick
Smash Master
Oh and Omni is very right, many ppl camp and they dont even realize it.
To me a guy that is running away shooting lasers is less of a camper then someone that simply dashdances in your face waiting for a grab.
One is actually comitting to an action while the other isn't doing a thing.
And yeah I'm a camper (the dd wait in your face type)
To me a guy that is running away shooting lasers is less of a camper then someone that simply dashdances in your face waiting for a grab.
One is actually comitting to an action while the other isn't doing a thing.
And yeah I'm a camper (the dd wait in your face type)
HugS
Smash Champion
Camping is camping, but what Greg described isn't camping.
No, he is wrong. What he is describing is not camping. You don't understand what camping is.
That is not camping.
No one camped in those matches.
You guys want real camping? Talk to iggy, and maybe another midwest peach.
Winston
Smash Master
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FaVL11cHpA4 <-- ^__^
Seriously though, HugS, it'd be nice if you told us less-informed players what your definition of camping is.
Instead of just telling everyone that they're wrong ...
BigRick
Smash Master
It's a mindset thing really... I am not arrogant enough to say to ppl that they are wrong.
Our past experiences with fighting games have made us think in a different way
Our past experiences with fighting games have made us think in a different way
meepxzero
Smash Master
i say we play custom stages of brawl where its only 4 squares long then we wont bish about whos camping or not lol.
Rebel581
Smash Champion
LOL! We should use the largest stage size too just for lulz.
And HugS, defensive playing is camping. Never approaching your enemy, but fighting them when they approach, is just GOOD camping. If that's not camping, then I've been going cold, as I've been sleeping outside without a tent.
Hey_its_YO
Smash Lord
hova
Smash Champion
you're not camping if you spend the majority of the match right in front on your opponent. you may be playing extremely defensive or in Omni's case 'gay', but that is not camping at all. waiting for your opponent to make a mistake and then punishing them is also not camping.
camping is setting up shop across the stage and trying to KO your opponent with projectiles. if you use your invincibility frames to set up a wall of projectiles from across the stage, then you are a camper
UltraDavid may have experience with other fighting games(i've actually seen the kid play SF turbo), but he don't know smash and people should just ignore his posts going forward
turtling in SF is nothing compared to a y. link sitting under corneria for 8 minutes
camping is setting up shop across the stage and trying to KO your opponent with projectiles. if you use your invincibility frames to set up a wall of projectiles from across the stage, then you are a camper
UltraDavid may have experience with other fighting games(i've actually seen the kid play SF turbo), but he don't know smash and people should just ignore his posts going forward
turtling in SF is nothing compared to a y. link sitting under corneria for 8 minutes
I'm going to camp in brawl, and laugh when people complain. Until you can prove it to be a tactic that isn't effective, i'll advance, right now smart camping DOMINATES brawl, and if running away and spamming projectiles beats people, then it's what people will do to win.
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