Veril
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Religion. I only date atheists/agnostics. Wouldn't ever date a philosophy major either. They are probably the most irritating people in existence.
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What is your biggest turnoff?
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Lol why are philosophy majors so irritating?
If we're going be negative stereotypes, I'd have to go with science majors. Science majors do one or two of years of study and think they have all the answers to the world. At the least the majority of us philosophy majors are wise enough to not be so ignorant.
I also find that most young science majors are also advocates of scientism; the belief that only science holds authority in various fields, and don't respect the credibilty of other forms of methodology.
If we're going be negative stereotypes, I'd have to go with science majors. Science majors do one or two of years of study and think they have all the answers to the world. At the least the majority of us philosophy majors are wise enough to not be so ignorant.
I also find that most young science majors are also advocates of scientism; the belief that only science holds authority in various fields, and don't respect the credibilty of other forms of methodology.
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haha, the only philosophy major I know always talks in terms of "logic" and always points out people's "logical fallacies", when most of the time he's hilariously wrong. I remember this one time he screamed at a group of friends "YOURE ALL ****ING INFANTS" over the definition of non sequitur. Another good quote was when he started talking about how there should be a Philosophy Channel, ala discovery or animal channel, but "it would never take off because people are too afraid to look at themselves". I know him through some friends and the only reason they hang out with him is out of pity and because he buys them weed. sad stuff
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Im sorry, but i just had to point out how ignorant this is.
I'm religious, and i would date a atheist/agnostic in a minute. I don't care about my significant others beliefs. To me that's like a black person saying they wont date a white person...but that's just me.
Hell, by your logic, you probably don't even befriend people that are religious. Majority of my friends are not religious, even my close friends.
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^ This. Some Atheists/Agnostics close themselves off too much.$u$pect said:
I'm Agnostic, but seriously enough, I wouldn't care what my potential girlfriend's Religion or belief is, whether it be Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, et cetera...
My biggest turnoff is when I'm making love to my boy and the television documentary switches from a great white shark to a platypus.
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Best post in this thread. I am a fan.
Most of these hardcore militant "I'm atheist, deal with it you stupid [insert religion here]" people are still in high school
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This.
Agreed with both of these people. As long as they're not religious zealots getting ready to try and convert you at every chance, there's no reason you should close yourself off from anyone who believes in a religion.
People take religion way too seriously. I don't understand why people can't accept other people's individual beliefs.
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Although I agree that not dating religious girls is weird, saying it's wrong is something else. It's Veril's personal preference.
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This thread.
I don't see why you guys have to jump on Veril for his preferences in a lover. If he doesn't find something attractive, that's just the way he is.
I'm not attracted to black men, I suppose that makes me a racist, as much as I'm a sexist for being gay.
I'm not attracted to black men, I suppose that makes me a racist, as much as I'm a sexist for being gay.
Uhhh, what is wrong with not wanting to date someone religious? Religion is a big part of a lot of people's lives and personalities. Dating them is risking a huge clash and possibly a lot of arguments. The religious person may even start pressuring their partner to go to church and start believing. I know I would want to avoid that if I were a non-believer.
I said black men, but ebony gods called Jam Stunna are legit.WHAT?!
Lol, mishun cumpleet.
He finds them irritating.
What're you going to do?
What're you going to do?
a blood bone and flesh sacrifice to Yog-Sothoth
Would you like fries with that?
LT, get ready to spend a month in the hole. Or am I being "obtuse"?
I would say the philosophy major line is lame, but 4/4 of the philosophy majors I've met, I've hated. So I can see where's he's coming from. But I'm sure they're not all bad, right?
I would say the philosophy major line is lame, but 4/4 of the philosophy majors I've met, I've hated. So I can see where's he's coming from. But I'm sure they're not all bad, right?
All philosophy majors I know (all 2 of them) have just been arrogant and self important, which is funny considering the nature of their mickey mouse degree.
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No? Why do you think that? There is no proof that racism exists in any form naturally. It isn't an endemic quality of human life. Deal with it. If you are racist, it is because you choose to be. The end. So you choose to be an idiot. Congratulations.
Firstly, atheism is not a religious belief. Secondly, Buddhism is not a religion. If you actually studied Buddhism you'd realize that it is DOCTRINE--NOT DOGMA. How do I know? Because I work with a Buddhist--we often talk about Buddhism all the time. It is pretty fascinating.
And science does not disprove God. It never has, and it never will. But, philosophy can deal with it. If you define God, and then a philosophical viewpoint can dismantle it--then you have just dealt with the 'god hypothesis'. And then they go on to move the goal posts over and over and over again ad naseum. Yawn.
And, because science cannot explain questions answered by 5 year olds you think that religion can? Is that what you are implying? You think because I make up an answer that it is somehow a greater viewpoint. Are you the type who will follow anything so long as it makes you feel safe in your little bubble?
I am getting real sick and tired of people who don't even understand what a religion is. Please go look it up and you will see how utterly antithetical it is to atheism and Buddhism.
Who doesn't in good fun? It's the people who sit around the water cooler peeking an eye out for the 'black guy' who scare me.
Hell, you actually can. The prisoner game. It explains how altruism evolves. Go look it up.
Why? Because you don't know anything at all? It seems like it. Deism is a faulty viewpoint ultimately. There is no reason that one cannot be intellectually satisfied and an atheist. Deism is something that appealed to people before we understood evolution. It was the most logical viewpoint of the time. It no longer is. Too many arguments against it.
You sound like the kind of people that my friend shuts down in arguments because they haven't a clue of the significance of philosophy. Without it we would barely know how to do a **** thing.
Philosophy's direction and significance has changed and evolved over time. We now have science to explain most of what philosophy used to try and achieve.
My favourite philosopher is Voltaire.
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Philosophy is probably more significant now than before--without it science is pretty much blind. We need someone to be able to think abstractly and beyond the box. You can't do that with science. Science can't really find new directions of thinking--it is a method that is fairly rigid. Philosophy is multidimensional.
I do agree though...science does a much better job. It places things into a concrete understanding of numbers and figure--whereas philosophy is mainly dependent on the language it uses.
But hey, Newton was technically a 'natural philosopher'. It's all semantics really. Plus, there are other methods that attain the truth just as effectively as the scientific method. I forget what it is called, but the scientific method tries to prove, and the other method tries to disprove. I believe the current system for discovering knowledge has to be arbitrary. Both work about as well.
My favorite philosopher is Diogenes--not because he is really brilliant [he kinda is] but because he is the definition of ****** and awesome.
CRASHiC
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1. Then why did white women never make my ***** go boing and
2. Not necessarily. Some sociologist believe that racisim is natural, as is any sort of an attempt to exclude someone different. Think back to a child, when you got upset, the other boys say "Don't act like a girl!" Its not that a girl is a bad thing, but its DIFFERENT, and to the pack animals that we humans are, different is a bad thing. the idea is that when we see someone different, it challenges our instinct to, more or less, **** every woman alive and put our children into them. When we see someone radically different, it offends us and makes us instinctively think "If they would **** them they wouldn't **** us!" So there is some argument that racism is a natural process as it has to do with wanting a certain human trait to be passed on.
Bull ****. Big bull ****. Science doesn't solve ****ing anything. It only lets us understand and manipulate. The problems that philosophy has tried to solve STILL comes NOWHERE close to being solved by science.
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The human experience is NOT quantifiable. All science can do is evaluate the quantifiable. It can look at the concrete, evaulate it, come to a conclusion. that's not what phillosphy has ever tried to solve.
Tell me, what equation is going to teach me how to live my life? What equation is going to teach me how best to comprehend my situation currently from a life standpoint? Science does little to nothing to help with the soul's problems. Social sciences themselves 1. aren't respected by other scientist and 2. are even less concreate and offer less answers than philosophy has.
So tell me, I want to know how to rationalize my on coming death in a way that my mind can appreciate it. What part of science is going to help me with that? What part of science is going to comfort me through that? And what part of science is going to teach me how a person should be? None. Philosophy struggles with the unanswerable questions. Science struggles only with that which can be answered 100 percent.
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CRASHiC
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Okay then, point me to a single thing in Plato's republic that can be solved by science.
You can't. Science and philosophy rarely if ever answer each other questions.
You can't. Science and philosophy rarely if ever answer each other questions.
Philosophy struggles with the unanswerable you say. That's where it all goes pear shaped. Different philosophies gave rise to societal differences, so much war, bloodshed, and hatred over different perspectives.
Science tries to offer concrete fact. When there is clarity there is mutual understanding, instead of spouting different lines of mumbo jumbo, maybe we should all stick with walking before we can run. Plato's republic can go **** itself, it didn't bring us electricity, the printing press, the ability for mass education, or cheap mass production of food.
You should make a thread about this in the Debate Hall, or talk to me on AIM. I'm not sure a thread about what turns you off is the right place, tbh.
Science tries to offer concrete fact. When there is clarity there is mutual understanding, instead of spouting different lines of mumbo jumbo, maybe we should all stick with walking before we can run. Plato's republic can go **** itself, it didn't bring us electricity, the printing press, the ability for mass education, or cheap mass production of food.
You should make a thread about this in the Debate Hall, or talk to me on AIM. I'm not sure a thread about what turns you off is the right place, tbh.
CRASHiC
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But you claimed that it takes the place of philosophy.. What you described was a separate issue that phillosphy has never tried to solve. Its not philosphy's job to feed the massis. Its the job to insure the optimum life for each individual and to have a basis for logical thinking. Science in no way takes the place of philosophy or vice versa. They are unrelated intities. Its not like the radio > TV > Internet. What you said was basically that deodorant has replaced shampoo. They are two separate things with two separate goals that are only slightly related. Philosophy tries to find a logical thought process and help understand how a person should be while science tries to find a physical law and help understand how to manipulate our surroundings. Neither can ever replace one another. Both are very important in our world view, as the world gets more confusing and intimate, and as the world population is ever increasing.
You didn't listen really did you?
Btw, walking takes the place of running before you can run.
Btw, walking takes the place of running before you can run.
Livvers is so right.
CRASHiC
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Again, you claimed that science replaces philosophy. Their goals are separate and unrelated.
You bring up wars that philosophies have brought us, but what has science done? The entire reason that world war I and II happened and were so large was because of science.
But that is far from the point. If someone asked you to sum up the basis of your life philosophy, you certainly couldn't say "science." Tell me, the way you treat women, is that based on science? Does the way you exist within your society, do you rationalize that through science? No amount of science can be used for a basis of human life because none of us are Doctor Manhattan. Your analogy implies that philosophy is long past its use, but that's not the case. Even more, I don't even think you understand the kind of philosphy I'm talking about. You talk about it like its a nations culture and religion. What I am speaking of us simply what you would study in college as philosophy, and that is the basis for rational thought on a day to day basis. Not a single question proposed by philosophy can be answered by science, nor vice versa. An apple seed can not replace an orange seed. No science class can teach me a logical thought process, only a factual basis for understanding the natural world.
You bring up wars that philosophies have brought us, but what has science done? The entire reason that world war I and II happened and were so large was because of science.
But that is far from the point. If someone asked you to sum up the basis of your life philosophy, you certainly couldn't say "science." Tell me, the way you treat women, is that based on science? Does the way you exist within your society, do you rationalize that through science? No amount of science can be used for a basis of human life because none of us are Doctor Manhattan. Your analogy implies that philosophy is long past its use, but that's not the case. Even more, I don't even think you understand the kind of philosphy I'm talking about. You talk about it like its a nations culture and religion. What I am speaking of us simply what you would study in college as philosophy, and that is the basis for rational thought on a day to day basis. Not a single question proposed by philosophy can be answered by science, nor vice versa. An apple seed can not replace an orange seed. No science class can teach me a logical thought process, only a factual basis for understanding the natural world.
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