Alright, but I'm sure he was aware he was getting rid of it when he changed the physics. I doubt he was oblivious to the technique and how it was performed.
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We need Wavedashing, we must take action to assure it
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Alright, but I'm sure he was aware he was getting rid of it when he changed the physics. I doubt he was oblivious to the technique and how it was performed.
Never expect anyone on smashboards to accept your arguments, or counter arguments. This thread shoulden't even exist, WD is out, it doesn't matter what side of the argument you're on, stop arguing, because there's nothing worth nagging eachother over in the topic anymore.
Nintendude
Smash Hero
Mew2King, one of the best players in the world, mentioned in his post how much he uses wavedashing. You just said it's not that useful. Hmm...a top smasher constantly using a move that is not that useful. Does that make sense?
Alright kiddies continue to live in your cloud of ignorance. I'm about to go to a smash club meeting at the college I'm at >_>
this looks.. oddly familiar.
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
How is someone not able to win a match unless they wavedash? Lack of their skill?
NES n00b
Smash Master
How do you cheat a program? It doesn't make sense.
If you are talking about cheating against friends, there are no rules besides what is agreed on or by the host of the said smashfest. The game is a game. You choose the rules in the game with the options and I guess you use the rules that you friends like to play with I guess.
Since most tournies say it isn't cheating to use them in tournies, it is not cheating.
If you are talking about cheating against friends, there are no rules besides what is agreed on or by the host of the said smashfest. The game is a game. You choose the rules in the game with the options and I guess you use the rules that you friends like to play with I guess.
Since most tournies say it isn't cheating to use them in tournies, it is not cheating.
Adi
Smash Lord
Rofl at saying M2K lacks skill. His point that the removal of wavedashing is POINTLESS and merely detracts from the SKILL GRADIENT. Removing it adds NOTHING to the game.
FalconPunch
Smash Journeyman
He could have easily just changed the physics for a new game, maybe. Even still it's an assumption and unless you are the one who put it there, you cannot say it wasn't intended.
Jigglymaster
Smash Hero
idk but its going to be a big advantage for Jigglypuff players. muha ha ha ha. I don't give a crap about wavedashing. Jigglypuff is least nerfed by it.
yes, but it is a sequel. and with a sequel you choose to keep some elements of the last game, change some, add some, and completely remove some.
wavedashing is something he chose to scrap for the new game. and no, it's not an assumption. and even if it was something intended, (and strongly believe it wasn't) it's something he NO LONGER WANTS. get that in your head and people, stop whining about it.
Cojiro
Smash Journeyman
This board needs to move on or it will degenerate.
Comparisons to the game may apply.
Comparisons to the game may apply.
AsbestosBlatant
Smash Journeyman
In this thread, I laughed a few times, I cried a few times. It was filled with smiles and tears.
If you think a more mindgame and defense oriented game is less deep because of the omission of one "advanced technique," you need to rethink your definition of depth.
If you think a more mindgame and defense oriented game is less deep because of the omission of one "advanced technique," you need to rethink your definition of depth.
NES n00b
Smash Master
Exactly, because your friends cannot apply wavedash or are good at mindgames or the game in general.
It is just that usually people who do wavedash have more dedication to this game; thus, they learn and get better and have many other techs and tatics that people do not usually have.
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
BTW, did Smash 64 have competitions?
FalconPunch
Smash Journeyman
LOL I'm the one whining? No, I'm just you shouldn't use assumption about what someone else thinks as a basis for your argument.
brawlpro
Smash Master
ask isai <_<
Doggalina
Smash Lord
64 doesn't have wavedashing. Tell me that game isn't deep.
A new tech has always been discovered (Ink Drop) and the game isn't out yet. Brawl will have plenty of depth.
A new tech has always been discovered (Ink Drop) and the game isn't out yet. Brawl will have plenty of depth.
NES n00b
Smash Master
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
exactly and the pros in brawl with still kick the ***** out of the people that suck by finding new strategies and exploitations
i didn't direct that at you, that's why i said "people" and didn't just continue directing everything to you. i was talking about people like M2K and some of the people in this thread.
yes, i realize that's your point, and i already countered it, so i don't see what your point is bringing it back up.
FalconPunch
Smash Journeyman
I'm sorry I thought that was directed at me.
Rose Monkey
Smash Apprentice
So what you're saying is, that using exploits to win is fair?
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
They will regardless and I don't really care either way
no problem. the misdirection was only caused by one word so i can see how it could be misunderstood.
FierceDeityWolf
Smash Ace
Read the sig, people. WDing is NOT needed.
NES n00b
Smash Master
Exploits mean = a woman hero; using the best tatic possible to get a desired result; scaming people out of riches.
I doubt your use of the word exploit is right.
Edit: They are exploits by definition, but the exploits are definitely not cheating or unfair. lol
what in the hell?
NES n00b
Smash Master
Edited for greatness.
Exploits by definition mean using the best tatics available. So matter what, there will always be exploits.
He probably meant glitches and why does that matter? You are on smashboards. Learn them as they are discovered.
AsbestosBlatant
Smash Journeyman
No, NES n00b, you are the exploits.
And then NES n00b was a wavedash.
Anyway, exploits when referring to software means little niches of programming where the coders weren't as thorough as they could have been that allows the game/software to function in a way not intended by the design team. IE, glitches.
And then NES n00b was a wavedash.
Anyway, exploits when referring to software means little niches of programming where the coders weren't as thorough as they could have been that allows the game/software to function in a way not intended by the design team. IE, glitches.
Rose Monkey
Smash Apprentice
So glitches are the only way to win.. ah I see.
no.. exploitation by definition would be using something in a way that is unethical or unintended.
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
There are people that can't win unless they use glitches...
Thino
Smash Master
ok guys wavedash is watever you want to call it , but the thing is ... they had to make a landing animation for airdodge so you dont go thru the ground , proof is that animation still exist in Brawl , but over the past 6 years , it has been abused , strategies were even build on it, not that WD = win , but gives advantages to some chars n stuff... ok.
Brawl is a new game... tell me one reason why WD should be in it? new way to airdodge for that landing animation not to be abused again.
remember from SSB64 to Melee :
it's way to easy to **** someone against the wall (aka **** tent in Hyrule Castle) so what they did in Melee? walltech , problem solved
Zcancel cancels the whole landing lag in SSB64 , so they reduced to half in Melee, any harm done
New glitchexploitsbugswatevers you cant even imagine will be (have already been) found, so stop cryin over a tech that belongs to another game nobody forces you to play brawl if you dont like it
Brawl is a new game... tell me one reason why WD should be in it? new way to airdodge for that landing animation not to be abused again.
remember from SSB64 to Melee :
it's way to easy to **** someone against the wall (aka **** tent in Hyrule Castle) so what they did in Melee? walltech , problem solved
Zcancel cancels the whole landing lag in SSB64 , so they reduced to half in Melee, any harm done
New glitchexploitsbugswatevers you cant even imagine will be (have already been) found, so stop cryin over a tech that belongs to another game nobody forces you to play brawl if you dont like it
NES n00b
Smash Master
If the glitches are needed to compete, there are plenty of glitches that are not useful in Melee.
Why not learn glitches? What do you have against glitches?
Edit: Those people can't win unless they uses glitches is the same people who are playing other people who use glitches. . . . . . .
I play the 10th ranked player in my state, who is a hardcore wavedasher, and I beat him on a daily basis.
Everyone should stop thinking that you or anyone else is better at the game just because you can wavedash, because its not true. It never has been true, and it never will be true, so stop acting all high-and-mighty, thinking that your so amazing because you CAN wavedash and assuming that I'm not good because I DONT wavedash.
FierceDeityWolf
Smash Ace
No WD in Brawl FTW. No offense
and you need to stop assuming that you ARE good because you can beat "so and so who is ranked such and such using whatever rank system i am pulling out of my ***."
go pro and see how you do in the circuits, THEN you can safely talk about your level of skill.
NES n00b
Smash Master
You mean that you don't use wavedash but use everything else. . . . . . . that makes much more sense because I know the top ten of GA can't lose to someone who uses no advance techniques.
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