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Was Pichu even necessary?

Grim Tuesday

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then wouldnt that be a joke
Nooooooo... a joke character is one who is INTENTIONALLY designed to be bad. Given that Sakurai doesn't think of Smash as a fighting game, it seems more likely to me that he just creates the characters to how he thinks they should operate and gives no second thought to how good they will be.

also pichu was a joke just like sheik was meant to be broken in both cases they when pretty close to making it true, but pichu is useable. QAlso why doesn't anyone seem to know the percents of self-damage for pichu?

side-B 1
B 1
down-B 3
up-B 1, 3
pummel-1
f-throw- 1
f-smash 1
fair-1 for every number of hits=4
dair- 1 when hitbox comes out, 1 if you land it
really I truely don't give a F*** about pichu's self-damage because it's just like any other move in the way that if you use it wrong you'll get punished, if I miss fair i'm get punished, if I land fair I get a grab and can chaon throw worth 4% I think.


and again pichu only has 2 flaws, range and he can't take a hit. a lot like fox
Pichu isn't a joke... And Sheik isn't broken...
I don't know the percentages off-hand, I used to when I played Pichu, but I've forgotten.
Another Flaw with Pichu is he can't deal much damage.
 

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Nooooooo... a joke character is one who is INTENTIONALLY designed to be bad. Given that Sakurai doesn't think of Smash as a fighting game, it seems more likely to me that he just creates the characters to how he thinks they should operate and gives no second thought to how good they will be.
i meant more in the saterical sense then the literal sense
but i mean he hurts himself
hes a joke character
 

INSANE CARZY GUY

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Another Flaw with Pichu is he can't deal much damage.
chain throws/tech-chases nair does a solid 12% I argee some moves are dumb like upair/fair but percent isn't everything take ice climbers they do 15% a tilt, 23% a smash and 17% for air moves. that's nuts seeing how fast those moves are when they also have great kill options. However they can't land their attacks enough they lack the speed of fox/falcon/pichu and etc. pichu can out run people so he can keep in control and do his damage when he needs to and has decent kill options.

The only time i've ever really had percent damage problems was vs puff on dreamlnad but everyone has that problem.
 

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LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL I was riding my bike today and the computer had viruses due to my step dad looking at porn. Pichu was a joke and I will never say i'm a great pichu player gave the most helpful by far.

I have always thought all of this stuff for young link he feels like a huge waste to me. But when I first unlocked pichu in MELEE I when wwwwwwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh that's sssssssoooooooo amazingly randomly cool, I did the same for puff/m2/gannon/ice climbers I still enjoy ssbm like how I first did I'm always amazed by the raw awesomeness from the cast. Do any of you remember that? Just me I look at everything with old/new eyes.


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllsoooooo pichu>kirby wanta know why? because all kirby has on pichu is tilts, duck, and range. but seeing how kirby's moves suck there range is somewhat wasted like roy. straight up not a single move kirby has is as good as pichu's nair.

You may say Bair but I disargee if you start bairing they start projectiling you and it's not like you puff and are fast. kirby can only camp really or his foe has to be dumb and make many mistakes. Why his SD tactics should be LOLed at, because if you know anything about kirby I hope you don't fall for those tricks.

no pichu's nair is like falcon's movement with his knee, kirby with his range and slugishness is like bowser and his fair. they DD around to nair/fair and even if kirby's has more range, it's much easier to predict/see/punish and doesn't combo.

I have to get off. sorry, I would lllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeee to see someone legitly down down why kirby is better. the bair wall stuff works for puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
I can kill 3 lv 9s without getting hit as everyone. Also they used AR.
I have to? OMg I was just getting warmed up, also LOl at my mindgames it bugged you(ihr) sooo much that I didn't post on a pichu page LOL
gasp that's mr. uber super H-box of awesomeness the 2nd.

also pichu was a joke just like sheik was meant to be broken in both cases they when pretty close to making it true, but pichu is useable. QAlso why doesn't anyone seem to know the percents of self-damage for pichu?

side-B 1
B 1
down-B 3
up-B 1, 3
pummel-1
f-throw- 1
f-smash 1
fair-1 for every number of hits=4
dair- 1 when hitbox comes out, 1 if you land it
really I truely don't give a F*** about pichu's self-damage because it's just like any other move in the way that if you use it wrong you'll get punished, if I miss fair i'm get punished, if I land fair I get a grab and can chaon throw worth 4% I think.


and again pichu only has 2 flaws, range and he can't take a hit. a lot like fox
<3 you BunBun People truely don't know anything about kirby or pichu so they just think oh kirby=puff and pichu just hurts himself. People really don't understand that pichu is pichu and kirby is kirby and they compare them to everyone else. But thank you being someone who knows BOTH kirby and pichu.
Oh I see, it's because it'm not the tallest person out there. I see but I hope you know you've made me semi sad about changing your sig.
His costumes are super serious man. You have to carefully pick before every match.

backpack-more weight
red- ninja mindgames
googgles-better air game
nude-harder to grab
I don't have a spare key :( and that isn't what happens, goggles help your air game.
chain throws/tech-chases nair does a solid 12% I argee some moves are dumb like upair/fair but percent isn't everything take ice climbers they do 15% a tilt, 23% a smash and 17% for air moves. that's nuts seeing how fast those moves are when they also have great kill options. However they can't land their attacks enough they lack the speed of fox/falcon/pichu and etc. pichu can out run people so he can keep in control and do his damage when he needs to and has decent kill options.

The only time i've ever really had percent damage problems was vs puff on dreamlnad but everyone has that problem.
Goddammit i came in this thread only to see what you would say, and before i got to your posts there was 100s of summons from other people also waiting for you

ICG2good
 

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His costumes are super serious man. You have to carefully pick before every match.

backpack-more weight
red- ninja mindgames
googgles-better air game
nude-harder to grab
Okay....How do the costumes/tints alter one's gameplay?:confused: I mean seriously, They're freakin costumes! They're just there for show.
 

Zodiac

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Goddammit i came in this thread only to see what you would say, and before i got to your posts there was 100s of summons from other people also waiting for you

ICG2good
ICG has become a legend among the melee boards. Nay, A legend among all smashers!
 

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see what you did there BunBun. But no I always carefully pick my colors as pichu and think about the details carefully. But if you believe in something it helps make you feel better. When you stop believeing you lose much more. perfect case. I beat my brother's fox fairly solidly as pichu in a serious matcch once and under pressure and lack of self-faith I when marth and lost, I can blame the noobs S*** talking me at that time but it's pretty sad that I would let them control my match at all.

You can't really let them get in your head, just like I have to keep part of my head out of my head, because you'll mess yourself up really bad.
 

Yung Mei

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oh insane carzy guy, we love you <3


10 pichus
 

Yung Mei

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even your super cool backpack (socks too)

10 more pichus
 

pickle962

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see what you did there BunBun. But no I always carefully pick my colors as pichu and think about the details carefully. But if you believe in something it helps make you feel better. When you stop believeing you lose much more. perfect case. I beat my brother's fox fairly solidly as pichu in a serious matcch once and under pressure and lack of self-faith I when marth and lost, I can blame the noobs S*** talking me at that time but it's pretty sad that I would let them control my match at all.

You can't really let them get in your head, just like I have to keep part of my head out of my head, because you'll mess yourself up really bad.
WTF? That made no sense whatsoever.
 

Steelia

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You can't really let them get in your head, just like I have to keep part of my head out of my head, because you'll mess yourself up really bad.
I can relate to this. True mindgames at work here when you allow this to taint your judgment; always have to maintain focus, even under pressure from peers or otherwise.
 

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He's our Dan. Of course we need a Dan.

I mean, even if he isn't worst character, the game actually says playing him is like handicapping yourself and this hasn't been proven untrue yet.
 

Charlesz

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Without ICG, pichu would have been automatically deleted from ssbm. ICG is the messiah of pichu players, may you spread the good word.
 

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WTf don't call me a messiah, to many people alreadly believe i'm God. but puff is funner in about every way only thing pichu has is his feel for mindgames and stuff.
 

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Pichu, in my opinion, is not as bad as the tier lists say. The Prince of Pichu, the Messiah of the Mouse, ICG, proves that point to the fullest. Mindgames get bigger as you go down the tier list, and ICG, as he has said, abuses the mindgames.

So yes Pichu is necessary, to answer the question.
 

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mindgames do NOT get bigger as you go down the tier list. they just became more needed to win, i'm mostly based off of mindgames and pichu just fit me just right.I mean i think smaus is better for mindgames than bowser is(just me) really everyone has options to abuse and mess around with, really fox could go some crazy stuff.
 

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mindgames do NOT get bigger as you go down the tier list. they just became more needed to win, i'm mostly based off of mindgames and pichu just fit me just right.I mean i think smaus is better for mindgames than bowser is(just me) really everyone has options to abuse and mess around with, really fox could go some crazy stuff.
I should have said more important, bad choice of words on my part. And yes, Fox's mindgames are nuts.
 

INSANE CARZY GUY

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nope unplug their controler and everyone elses at once I saw M2k do it at GF for doubles in indy when he was LOLing.

mindgames are a lot about being unreadable and reading them too.
 
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