Dynamism?
Smash Champion
D'oh vs Vanz > Vwins vs Armada at Genesis in peach ditto cuteness? I bet you do fancy stuffz that makes them look noob :D
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VaNz Stuff.. about Peach (Tactical Discussion)
- Thread starter Cia
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DoH
meleeitonme.tumblr.com
As long as I get pink
Cia
das kwl
Yeah they'll be like.. 5 recording set ups at spoc so we'll get tons of them.
teco - i don't know who, but we're ****** someone at this with double peach.
MacD
Banned via Administration
do the kirby glitch and you can both be pink
but during team friendlies, i did an up smash out of sheild because my partner was comboing someone towards me... i got a sweat spot and killed, it was amazing
god, why is up smash soooooo good and yet soooo bad
Silly Kyle
Smash Champion
Double Peach is the ****!! So effing awesome
Ben-Teezee
Smash Apprentice
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i was looking for this thread to subscribe to it again, then i realized all this talk about double peach and it made me hate u all a lil inside. 
vanz we need to play! (not at a tourney) hit me up!
vanz we need to play! (not at a tourney) hit me up!
The Irish Mafia
Banned via Administration
Went double peach once in tourney. Worked suprisingly well, I'll have to try it again sometime.
Samochan
Smash Master
Gahaha, me and Yuna mauled on teams. We basically 6 stocked everyone in our pool match, dsmash is too good on teams and no fox/falco can escape unscatched (cept maybe peki most of the time, but that's cause he's a sneaky b*stard). Breaks shields like crazy. =) We got 2nd yay. ^_^ Vids will come at some point.
Cia
das kwl
i was looking for this thread to subscribe to it again, then i realized all this talk about double peach and it made me hate u all a lil inside.
I'm free for the majority of this week. just throw a smashfest or something, and i'll be there =] If I'm not on AIM, text my cell 917-402-7950
Julien
Smash Rookie
I like to dash attack alot in Peach dittos. Since most Peach attacks are from the air, there's no risk of getting CC *****.
Cia
das kwl
=O
DUDE! how've you been?
You should go to tournaments again!
I can **** you in dittos now.
And I'm stealing your font.
:D
MacD
Banned via Administration
ok explain, the only way i know to cancel tumble into float is to lose your 2nd jump or to wiggle out into float, is there a secret i don't know
Cia
das kwl
that's pretty much it. You hold X/Y while you're in hit stun, and wiggle the control stick. Once you break the hit stun, you'll be in float.
MacD
Banned via Administration
oh ok, so like hold it so you don't use jump, ok good, the world makes since again
bladeofapollo
Smash Ace
Or use Toad if you're bad and can't wiggle
The Irish Mafia
Banned via Administration
I posted this in a thread a while back, but Sastopher likes to reverse toad so he can get out of tumble and approach the stage w/ bair
I thought it was clever
I thought it was clever
bladeofapollo
Smash Ace
Yea, that's generally the way to go. Reverse Toad --> Bair is a pretty fun trick
Cia
das kwl
^ If you ever got away with that.. then shame on your opponent.
lolz
lolz
what about dthrow -> peach bomber as a tech chase?
JFox
Smash Hero
already beat you to it.
it yields very ineffective results, but **** is it humiliating
it yields very ineffective results, but **** is it humiliating
haha yeah. I noticed it has weird knockback. like sometimes the person I'm playing would westcoast DI it and they'd die at like 100% and other times they would DI normally and they'd go nowhere haha.
is there something that makes Peach bomber different, Jay Fox?
is there something that makes Peach bomber different, Jay Fox?
JFox
Smash Hero
tbh im not sure why peach bomber has such strange knockback. a few of moves have a strange knockback, this is just one of them (others include falco's shine or roy's up b for example). They are usually very influenced by DI, and dont follow the normal trend of increasing in knockback with the same curve that properties that other moves have.
Its too bad its not stronger cuz i would def learn to use it effectively if it was a kill move. :/
Its too bad its not stronger cuz i would def learn to use it effectively if it was a kill move. :/
yeah definitely. if peach bomber killed, Peach would be that much more fun to use haha.
Ben-Teezee
Smash Apprentice
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played vanz a **** ton today. GG's bro ur definitely super beast, hopefully ill be on my A-game next time and actually punish ur mistakes 
vanz peach is teh sex right now toooo good.
vanz peach is teh sex right now toooo good.
Samochan
Smash Master
Last weekend, I used peach bomber trough the tree on pokestadium and this this marth, then I faired him trough the tree again when he got up and killed him. =D
PaperstSoapCo
Smash Lord
Vanz always has a great Peach except when he played me. He sandbagged so hard I felt like I was playing worst.played vanz a **** ton today. GG's bro ur definitely super beast, hopefully ill be on my A-game next time and actually punish ur mistakes
Vanz you going to SPOC right? I wanna see you give it to Philly's finest and I want a rematch on that Jiggs.
Ben-Teezee
Smash Apprentice
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ive always known vanz was freaking pro, ive just never been able to even remotely compete. actually winning some sets today (even though i lost more than i won for sure) i was able to truly appreciate how he plays.
think of it this way its like someone who just learned how to play chess watching grandmasters play. to them its like they just moving pieces, but another top player watching them realizes all the process and thinking behind each move (granted its not THAT deep for smash but it is pretty deep). so I just had to give him props cuz i finally seen him on the same level.
and tip how u getting to spoc?
The Irish Mafia
Banned via Administration
Dtilt to peach bomber is the worst peach combo ever.
and why tech chase with peach bomber when you can just dash attack or follow up with float or something? There aren't a lot of situations where peach is short on options.
and why tech chase with peach bomber when you can just dash attack or follow up with float or something? There aren't a lot of situations where peach is short on options.
DoH
meleeitonme.tumblr.com
I like to bomber when they don't tech and I'm pretty sure they're either just going to attack or stand up against characters that I don't have good grab options on.
Or when I'm sandbagging.
Or when I'm sandbagging.
MacD
Banned via Administration
haha, you know what is fun to do against a marth
when you are recovering and near the ledge, if they like to fsmsh, you can use peach bomber to stop yourself, not get hit by fsmash, then get a hit off them
in theory it sounds like it could be useful but i've only done it in friendlies when i wanna make someone feel stupid
when you are recovering and near the ledge, if they like to fsmsh, you can use peach bomber to stop yourself, not get hit by fsmash, then get a hit off them
in theory it sounds like it could be useful but i've only done it in friendlies when i wanna make someone feel stupid
The Irish Mafia
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lol that's actually pretty good
but you might not land on the stage or something stupid
I'll have to try that out sometime
but you might not land on the stage or something stupid
I'll have to try that out sometime
Cia
das kwl
Thanks guys :D
And I actually don't know if I'm going to SPOC atm. G$ promised me a spot in his car over a month ago. I called him today to find out what our plans were for leaving, and he basically told me that he was bringing his old crewmates and didn't have a spot for me anymore. D:
I've never missed a SPOC since the the first one I went to and if I miss this, that'll probably be it for me. I've been trying to quit anyway.
Also other than wallbombing, best use for Peach bomber I could think up was Dsmash > Jab reset > hup-CHAA! One day i was playing the computer and I was spamming peach bomber. So Fox used reflector, and I was on fire. I didn't know that peach bomber was a projectile.. lol
And I actually don't know if I'm going to SPOC atm. G$ promised me a spot in his car over a month ago. I called him today to find out what our plans were for leaving, and he basically told me that he was bringing his old crewmates and didn't have a spot for me anymore. D:
I've never missed a SPOC since the the first one I went to and if I miss this, that'll probably be it for me. I've been trying to quit anyway.
Also other than wallbombing, best use for Peach bomber I could think up was Dsmash > Jab reset > hup-CHAA! One day i was playing the computer and I was spamming peach bomber. So Fox used reflector, and I was on fire. I didn't know that peach bomber was a projectile.. lol
JFox
Smash Hero
OHH MYSTER SOLVED!!
if peach bomb is a projectile, THAT makes sense why it has such a weird knockback. Projectiles are super effected by DI, just think of when u DI a samus charge ball. BUT it also has properties of a B move, and B moves increase at a totally different curve from A moves. They control the knockback more on B moves so that a B attack doesnt send you flying at higher percents like a normal a attack would. This is also why marth's forward b slash is so much more deadly on different weight classes! Or why Marth's sweetspotted up B is super effective even at low percents! I GET IT
Mystery solved Connor! Thanks for the hint vanz.
if peach bomb is a projectile, THAT makes sense why it has such a weird knockback. Projectiles are super effected by DI, just think of when u DI a samus charge ball. BUT it also has properties of a B move, and B moves increase at a totally different curve from A moves. They control the knockback more on B moves so that a B attack doesnt send you flying at higher percents like a normal a attack would. This is also why marth's forward b slash is so much more deadly on different weight classes! Or why Marth's sweetspotted up B is super effective even at low percents! I GET IT
Mystery solved Connor! Thanks for the hint vanz.
Samochan
Smash Master
6th frame, Kouryuu
The Irish Mafia
Banned via Administration
I'm still wondering why we're discussing peach bomber when it's one of peaches' most useless attacks
Honestly it has **** knockback, does mediocre damage for the condition it puts you in, and completely screws you over with the wind-down time, let alone if you miss.
Interesting stuff about the projectile. I sure as hell didn't know that.
Honestly it has **** knockback, does mediocre damage for the condition it puts you in, and completely screws you over with the wind-down time, let alone if you miss.
Interesting stuff about the projectile. I sure as hell didn't know that.
IrishMafia, you're stating what we already know. From the little amount of time I've spent here, I've noticed these forums are dead as **** so any kind of discussion is good. We all know there are moves we can do that are better than Peach bomber and that it's a mediocre move. Peach's metagame isn't going to drastically change anytime soon so we run out of things to talk about. Discussing it is more for fun if anything.