VaNz Stuff.. about Peach (Tactical Discussion)

[!Peligro!]

My suggestion was excellent, the Peaches song is also awesome and would be pretty funny.

 

[DoH]

Shotgun on Kelly Clarkson for my eventual combo video

 

[Quaz]

How do you deal with a sheik that platform camps you?

 

[Rosedemon]

 

[thesage]

Imma watch armada videos to learn how to edgeguard faax properly. Anybody else I should watch?

 

[Wake]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_tU...xt=C349efdaUDOEgsToPDskL2Al7uUOKj9eq8G_cnSDBf

The Marth advice really helped from the last time you guys critiqued my Peach/Marth game after I got owned by Bluezaft. I still lose this set against Chexr, but I think I did much better in the MU than the last time. Chexr is number one on our PR.

Also, there's no audio to this.

 

[King5280]

hes so overaggressive. he runs at you like a madman every stock.

 

[Wake]

Yeah we're both pretty aggressive.

 

[DoH]

New DoH vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8l6ptKQZrk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzR2P-OE8Lc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F9K6BAGhQU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-1YCJd30w0&feature=channel_video_title

 

[Wake]

What do you think of the Falcon MU, DoH?

 

[DoH]

I think it's pretty even. Our winners set was much closer, 3-1. Wish it was recorded. It's all about whoever gets the first hit, hax is really good at baiting, and I was kinda tired/blerg.

 

[ShroudedOne]

Why do you think the MU is even?

 

[Wake]

Nice. I think it's around even too.

Good games though.

haha You and your powershields, DoH.

 

[ShroudedOne]

Actually, I seem to do really well in the MU, compared to a long time ago. I guess I don't hate it that much (I still don't see it being even, but perhaps it's not as bad as I thought...) It's certainly become one of my "best."

EDIT: Is FoD better for Marth, or Peach in that MU? Cause I'm not sure if taking Chexr to BF was the best choice. But good job, nevertheless, Wake.

 

[The Irish Mafia]

i try to avoid bf vs marth, they tend to be way to comfortable there & it just gives him exactly how much space he needs in the MU
I'd ban either that or stadium
In other news, there's new XIF videos on SleepyK's channel. Not the best, but he's still got something. my hero :3
anyway how're y'all doing with the most important girl in our lives?

 

[DoH]

Because peach and falcon both have really stupid punishes on each other

 

[Quaz]

idk man. Peach vs Falcon.. I havent figured that one out yet. I still think its even myself, but I just dont know what to DO

 

[DoH]

I played like an idiot in our lf set. Blërg

 

[thesage]

It's a really dumb matchup because they both have to bait each other. It's not as bad as I thought it was before though.

 

[ShroudedOne]

I must be the only Peach main who thinks that Falcon wins the MU solidly. I feel like it's comparable to Fox, where the speed doesn't let us do much. Yes, we've good combos/edge guards, but I find that it's easier for Falcon to get us into those positions than it is for us to get him into them.

 

[Composeur]

Is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-1YCJd30w0&t=5m9s worth investigating or was it just a fluke? I've never seen it before.

 

[Quaz]

I must be the only Peach main who thinks that Falcon wins the MU solidly. I feel like it's comparable to Fox, where the speed doesn't let us do much. Yes, we've good combos/edge guards, but I find that it's easier for Falcon to get us into those positions than it is for us to get him into them.

Nah, I seen tons of Peaches who think Falcon wrecks her. I used to be one of them.

 

[ShroudedOne]

Composeur, if you mean DoH beating Falco's dair with Peach's utilt, know that her hair gets invincibility frames during it (the blue area in her hair).

The invincibility lasts for the duration of the hitbox. So, while the timing may be strict, it is legit.

 

[crush]

Mafia is always *****ing about how bad the falcon MU is, ur not the only one shrouded one

 

[ShroudedOne]

That's right. He told me about that at Apex, and that he picked up Falcon for that MU. I forgot.

 

[crush]

He actually mains fox, but im pretty sure masturbation took a toll on his technical skill.

 

[DoH]

Y'all are gonna be up tilting everything now

 

[john!]

I must be the only Peach main who thinks that Falcon wins the MU solidly. I feel like it's comparable to Fox, where the speed doesn't let us do much. Yes, we've good combos/edge guards, but I find that it's easier for Falcon to get us into those positions than it is for us to get him into them.

lots of people think this. i think this. i'm pretty sure armada thinks this too.

 

[ShroudedOne]

Yes. You're right. So does he. Bad memory is bad.

 

[King5280]

peach falcon is hard as ****

 

[Composeur]

Landon, how conditional is this application of utilt, and how hard can falco bait or punish it, do you know? Also, do you know of any other situations, similar or not, in which it's a good option? <3

 

[Composeur]

Also, new armada vids up on YT! He uses a lot of reverse bair>nair combos and fc uair punishes.

 

[King5280]

itll work everytime if you read a dair from above and can time it.

 

[DoH]

Up tilt is also good after you dair someone. They try to jump away and get caught by it. Also good under yoshis platforms

 

[King5280]

Up tilt is also good after you dair someone. They try to jump away and get caught by it. Also good under yoshis platforms

thats pretty smart. i feel like its a move that is, at least to a point, underutilized by most peaches. the head invulnerability seems like it could be useful in a lot of situations. i could see it being good against cf dair maybe nair?

 

[The Irish Mafia]

Shrouded, I actually picked up falcon because falcon is awesome as ****. A few good MU's are a good plus, though.

 

[Wake]

Actually, I seem to do really well in the MU, compared to a long time ago. I guess I don't hate it that much (I still don't see it being even, but perhaps it's not as bad as I thought...) It's certainly become one of my "best."

EDIT: Is FoD better for Marth, or Peach in that MU? Cause I'm not sure if taking Chexr to BF was the best choice. But good job, nevertheless, Wake.

I thought about FoD, but I suck on that map right now.

 

[ShroudedOne]

@Irish: I thought I remembered you saying that to me. Ah well, I'm sure the ditto is preferable to going Peach.

@Wake: Yeah, FoD is balls. I don't blame you (even though it's really good for her).

 

[Wake]

Also, new armada vids up on YT! He uses a lot of reverse bair>nair combos and fc uair punishes.

Where are these new Armada videos?

 

[Composeur]

http://www.youtube.com/user/alegreman07/videos