For the Sonic Snake matchup, I honestly can't visually see in my head a way for Sonic to get through nade and jab spamming. It sounds kind of cookie cutter, but doesn't Snake at least nullify all of Sonic's spin dash attacks by simply holding down the A button? Throw in the idea that Sonic won't be able to kill great Snake players until ridiculously high %'s, I'm thinking like 180%-200%ish on average, as bad as that sounds, whereas Snake can kill him at like 100-120% fairly easily. Now I watched those videos with you and Fatal, Goggles, and I think Fatal was actually doing you a favor by approaching you. Even then, he still won pretty comfortably.
So go ahead and give your counter arguments, I actually want to be wrong on this and want to believe that our Sonic players can beat top Snake players.
Ive been over this with you already.
Full charge spin charge beats snakes jab.
sonic kills snake at a weird range. If snake goes high to recover from offstage, he might get up aired at the top of the screen at like 90. Or he could not die until a stale back air at 210. its all very situational, but due to his weakness in recovering its much easier to land a kill shot on him rather then... say... lucario. Also damage racking is much easier, since once you get him offstage he usually has to damage himself to recover.
Camping with nades is very effective against spindash, but against sonic its very much like diddy, where the items are only useful if youre better at them than your opponent. And I actually pride myself on my item usage skill. So unless youre REALLY good as snake, against me your nades are usually going to hit you more than they will me.
From the snakes perspective killing sonic with snake is of a similar difficulty as killing lucario with sonic. Sonic is quick and mobile enough to if he so chooses, avoid pretty much all of snakes moves, minus f tilt and nades. and if nades are the only thing youre going to hit with, im going to live until about 160-170 because theyre going to be stale.
I actually like it when snakes play overly defensive, because it makes it easier for me to limit their options.
good snakes dont get off stage at low percents...
rofl, watch a vid of any snake ever vs any ddd ever and see how often snake gets put offstage. yea thats an obvious example but ddd isnt the only character that can do that.
pretty much you guys dont have a huge amount of experience playing "great" snake players. mine is alright for people who dont know the matchup, but if you guys were going to play against (in this area) fatal, bizkit, mikeray (pretty much just new england) then they actually know how to play snake.
tl;dr NY snake players suck. play NE and then tell me you like the match up >_>
Rofl. I play MikeRay and Bloodcross's Snakes on the ladder all the time. And the Fatal vid I showed you was from Pound 5. And that was in losers after I went last game, last stock 140% against Bizkit. Ive played those people. And the matchup really isnt that bad.
Its really hard to get in, but once you get the first hit, i go to town on snakes.
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