NightroGlycerine
Smash Journeyman
Holy balls. I never said they were "great" things. I said they were things. I'm not 100% happy with Obama either. He's not Jesus, he's not perfect, and he's done many, many things that I disagree with. But at least he's trying to yank the country forward after it's falling behind so badly.Let me address of few of the "great things" Obama has done according to you.
Aside from the flippant overreacting (holy balls), there's a couple points I'd like to bring up:
-Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize is generally agreed to be ****-tarded. Even he didn't want it.
-This is what I meant by state's children's insurance. Bush vetoed funding for it, Obama reauthorized it.
-Obama's policies on NASA was something I was initially angry about. He cancelled the Constellation program (which would people on the Moon again) but made up for it by giving another $6 billion to NASA. Source, even if it is just CNN. Basically Obama expanded the total budget to NASA but made unpopular changes. The media just didn't cover the expansion very well because it wasn't nearly so controversy-inducing.
That said, nothing I say is going to convince you otherwise. Obama is a centrist, and was elected as a centrist. To debate otherwise is pointless. Nothing is accomplished by going ARRGGGBBLBE I HATE OBAMA HE'S A COMMIE or OMG I LOVE OBAMA FOREVER CUZ HE'S BLACK because that misses the point entirely.
To talk politics, you need to have a level head and approach policy with a neutral mindset, or else your own opinions will cloud what you see as reality. The American media is a mess because it does nothing to clarify what's going on in the world, it's just there to make the viewer's opinion's flattered.
If you want to talk politics, please, do so, but do so with a mindset that you're going to learn something. Otherwise, it just makes more of a mess.
No one wants to see dramatic arguments on a message board. They watch cable news for that. So yeah. Obama's B-tier, I'm putting him there. He's the Olimar of presidents. Put him on a stage and he's fine, but good god is his recovery gimped.